Why Hillary Will Win (probably)

[JakeStarkey]

Were you asleep during the midterms?

Yup, when the mainstream voters rejected the far right pubs and far left crazies. The TP is not mainstream and is almost out of steam.

 

[Antares]

I've said this before and I'll say it again...

Hillary and Bill Clinton are the most scandal-ridden and potentially corrupt man-and-wife tag-team to ever soil the American political landscape.

America deserves and can do much better than Hillary.

Unfortunately, it may not get anything better, given the airheads and sheeple willing to play follow-the-leader and all the bandwagon-jumpers-on.

You know what, guy. The Clintons might have been "Corrupt", but they got shit done.

I'd love to have my life from 2000 back, before "Good Christian" George W. fucked up, well, just about everything.

What a father you would be, fuck corruption, give me mine!!!!!

 

[Antares]

Were you asleep during the midterms?

Yup, when the mainstream voters rejected the far right pubs and far left crazies. The TP is not mainstream and is almost out of steam.

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

 

[Lakhota]

Poor Lakhota why would the distinguished General lie after he had been sworn to tell the truth before the committee?

Maybe he just hates Obama and Hillary - and was trying to cover up his own ineptitude? At this point, what difference does it make?

 

[Antares]

Poor Lakhota why would the distinguished General lie after he had been sworn to tell the truth before the committee?

Maybe he just hates Obama and Hillary - and was trying to cover up his own ineptitude? At this point, what difference does it make?

Nothing to people like you, people who have no integrity or ethics.

Thanks for my making my point.

 

[HenryBHough]

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

Cannot?

Remember, you're dealing with a closet Democrat so dissuading conservatives from having an actual choice is a win for his cult.

 

[Antares]

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

Cannot?

Remember, you're dealing with a closet Democrat so dissuading conservatives from having an actual choice is a win for his cult.

Such is the price of integrity.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Were you asleep during the midterms?

Yup, when the mainstream voters rejected the far right pubs and far left crazies. The TP is not mainstream and is almost out of steam.

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

We have with Eisenhower, Nixon, both Bushes. We will again. We need the right of to left of center more than you. Always been that way, except for 2004 when the socons went crazy and even registered and voted Martians.

 

[Antares]

Were you asleep during the midterms?

Yup, when the mainstream voters rejected the far right pubs and far left crazies. The TP is not mainstream and is almost out of steam.

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

We have with Eisenhower, Nixon, both Bushes. We will again. We need the right of to left of center more than you. Always been that way, except for 2004 when the socons went crazy and even registered and voted Martians.

You cannot win without real conservatives you will soon learn this.

 

[sealybobo]

One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.

Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.

The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.

Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.

She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race

Women and young people will put the clintons back in the white house.

 

[Antares]

One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.

Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.

The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.

Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.

She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race

Women and young people will put the clintons back in the white house.

You think women will swallow their pride and vote for someone who TRULY waged a war on women?

 

[rightwinger]

NaziCons don't like "context" - it confuses them.

Let's start with "AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE", would you like to provide the context for that?

Of course

To conservatives, they rant that she does not care that people died

To the rest of America, they listen to the whole quote and realize she is talking about the people who did it and it doesn't matter...we will get them

Nope.

The reason they died matters, it was no fucking video and she lied for weeks about it.

Actually, the video played a big part in the protest

Ignoring all the evidence that has come out since does not help you

Nope, there was no Libyan "protest"

Actually, there was

As there were protests around the Muslim world

 

[Zander]

The OP is hedging. Why the "maybe"? Hillary is a LOCK!!! She WILL be the next POTUS!!!

Just like in 2008.

 

[Antares]

Let's start with "AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE", would you like to provide the context for that?

Of course

To conservatives, they rant that she does not care that people died

To the rest of America, they listen to the whole quote and realize she is talking about the people who did it and it doesn't matter...we will get them

Nope.

The reason they died matters, it was no fucking video and she lied for weeks about it.

Actually, the video played a big part in the protest

Ignoring all the evidence that has come out since does not help you

Nope, there was no Libyan "protest"

Actually, there was

As there were protests around the Muslim world

Nope, not according to the General in charge of that theater of operation.

In his sworn testimony to the Congressional Hearings he makes it clear that there were NO "protests" occurring in Benghazi.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Were you asleep during the midterms?

Yup, when the mainstream voters rejected the far right pubs and far left crazies. The TP is not mainstream and is almost out of steam.

Poor Jake, you cannot win without real conservatives

We have with Eisenhower, Nixon, both Bushes. We will again. We need the right of to left of center more than you. Always been that way, except for 2004 when the socons went crazy and even registered and voted Martians.

You cannot win without real conservatives you will soon learn this.

The great majority of conservatives will vote for the candidate.

 

[rightwinger]

Poor Lakhota why would the distinguished General lie after he had been sworn to tell the truth before the committee?

The budget numbers don't lie

Republicans made cuts and celebrated the fact

 

[JakeStarkey]

Revisionism will not help the far right at all with the mainstream of the GOP.

The TP is through; we say that in the primaries of 2014.

 

[Shrimpbox]

I dread all this starting so early but since it has:

Candy corn is all in so early under such false premises. Was there ever any doubt?

Stat is the one that interests me. He was 110 per cent in months ago citing poll after poll that portrayed Hilary as a force of nature, a done deal, no need to even have an election. Problem with stat and his polling protective shield,is that he always considers himself right until he isn't and then of course it wasn't his fault but bad polling data. Some recent polls have Hilary behind in some states, which may be a temporary thing, but is not the trajectory stat predicted. He is so heavily invested in a Hilary win that should she lose we should consider a suicide watch.

So why might stat and candy be on the wrong track?
Jewish voters might have had enough
The Latino vote will be split much more evenly if Rubio wins nomination
Both Cruz and Rubio would eat Hilary's lunch in the debates
Hilary's legal problems are not over
Even a few percentage points shaved off the black vote would make a difference
Hilary is losing women's support over her email controversy
Bill is a loose canon
Hilary is a bad campaigner, and her vindictiveness cannot be camouflaged
I personally believe she is not in good health
The republicans have learned and their ground game will be better
A Rubio will bring out the two million voters that stayed home in 2012
Disgust with Obama will be at a fever pitch by election time
The gay assault on America is creating a huge backlash
One major terrorist attack in this country and Hilary is toast

Why might they be on the right track:
The do nothing republican congress is fast turning many conservative voters off
And will be a point of debate in the election
The media will help Hilary and harm any repub candidate
Jeb Bush will lose to Hilary
The repub candidates will not commit to specific plans to change things
Establishment re pubs will not commit to passing the baton to a new generation

Both candy and stat and their acolytes might just curb their enthusiasm, or at least save it for later by remembering the old saw; if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Ditto Hilary!

 

[MarathonMike]

Yes Ms. Clinton, this is called a buffet. It's where real "flat broke" Americans go out to eat. Isn't that cute?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Of course, funding had nothing to do with it per Hillary but don't let the truth stop you. God knows it never does Obama.