Why I thought Obama was going to lose the last election.

[konradv]

About a year before the election, I was watching the news and they were interviewing this guy in Detroit on who looked about in his middle 40's.

And he said that he wanted to thank Obama for saving the car industry, his home, his job and because saved his job, he could keep his kid in college.

He said he felt bad Republicans would have let the auto industry die. Then he said in spite of all that, he just couldn't vote for a black as president. So I thought Obama was toast. I thought if people would vote against someone who kept their entire life from be completely ruined just because of race, Obama would never be elected to a second term. I'm guessing if Obama had been white, with his accomplishments, he would have won in a landslide.

The flip side is that no WHITE person with the total lack of political/executive experience, like Obama, would have ever won in the first place. The "historical" event of the first black President (phony argument, because Obama is every bit as white as he is black) made people with over active guilt feelings about what happened hundred years ago lose their sight and sanity. Sadly, these people never even realized that there was nothing in Obama's background which might have entitled him to special consideration for being descendent of former slaves, they just voted for an empty suit, whose only claim to fame was a speech, and two careers as state and U.S. Senator, both of which he quit for personal gains. But, those who lost their sight and sanity just could not NOT vote a phony half-black guy, who would have long been dead or in jail, if it had not been for his WHITE grandparents who raised him, after his BLACK father showed him his middle finger. And to show the true character of his ungrateful waste of skin, Obama threw his grandparents under the bus with his racist comments about them.

Obama is not the descendent of slaves. Obama isn't really black, other than skin tone.

Now you get to define what "blackness" is? I hate it when black people to do it, but for you to do it is just beyond the pale.

 

[FJO]

In 2008, Obama was elected because he was not a Bush or a Clinton. There is no other explanation for why a community organizer shot from nothing to President in record time. If Obama was never born, Hillary Clinton would be President right now. The country was so disgusted with the GOP they would have elected whoever the Democrats put up. Even Dennis Kucinich.

In 2012, Obama was re-elected because the GOP's mask slipped off during the primaries and revealed the same batshit insane psychopaths are still running the party.

As a former Iowan I know the inferiority complex of MOST Iowans.. i.e. hick farmers, ignorant, unsophisticated pig raisers, corn growers!
Of course those people that have that opinion of Iowans are unaware Iowans have one of the highest literacy rates, plus those ignorant farmers grow the food most people eat!

And so MOST Iowans with this inferiority complex had hundreds of media sticking cameras, mics etc... in their noses and fearful that they would appear as unsophisticated boobs,
they literal "STOOD" in caucuses in 2008 primaries. They had NO knowledge of Obama's crappy ideology, and lack of experience... and ONLY reason to vote for Obama
was NOT to appear racist to the MSM and the rest of the world!

That is the simplest major reason Iowans and then millions of voters voted for Obama...i.e. they didn't want to think they were racist because THEY KNEW NOTHING about
Obama except he was black! And to vote against him would mean they knew only one reason... i.e. he was black! And these inferiority laden Iowans could not have the
MSM just as ignorant of Obama as most people would consider them unsophisticated!!!
HERE read from Obama's autobiography "Dreams of My Father"... TRICKS TACTICS...

"It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned.
People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves.
They were more than satisfied. They were revealed. Such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem
angry all the time."

Iowans have absolutely NO reason for feeling inferior to anyone from any other parts.

The first time I met about 200 Iowans when I went for a volunteer trip to Homestead, FL. in 1993, after the devastation of Hurricane Andrew. The Iowan group was lead by a young Lutheran minister, who for some inexplicable reason was overjoyed by the fact that Bill Clinton was elected, rather than that horrible old GWH Bush. Luckily for me, his father was there, too, who was a staunch Republican. The father was agreeing with me, honoring the legacy of Ronald Reagan, while the son, the minister was somewhat less than kind to President Reagan and Republicans, in general.

All the Iowans were super, hardworking people. They adopted me as an "ornery"(honorary) Iowan. I enjoyed their company for the one week we spent together.

About two years later my wife and I spent some time traveling through the mid west and thought we should look up Reverend Jeff. So, I phoned his Iowa office, but I was told that he was transferred by the Church to another location, and then the young lady gave me Reverend Jeff's new address.

Following the AAA directions, I arrived at the town to which Reverend Jeff was transferred.
Entering the town, I was surprised to see the sign: "Welcome to Dixon, childhood home of President Reagan".

I guess God works in mysterious ways.

Having said that, Iowans are great people, but for the life of me, I can not understand why they have to be the first to voice an opinion in the Presidential race.

 

[FJO]

I believe the story. There is still a deep seated racial tone in the country that we be around for generations to come. Obama won a second term because he offered hope while the GOP just offered another white rich guy...

A long succession of "rich white guys" made America what it is.

Take a look at Africa to see what a long succession of poor black guys can do.

If you want that to happen to America, you are on the right track.

 

[Liberal]

You need to have faith in the 47% and their enablers.

Actually that 47% that you are talking about voted for Rmoney.

You know are totally ignorant on how to use the Internet?? I mean here are the facts!

Barack Obama 332 Electoral Votes 62,611,250 Popular Votes
Mitt Romney 206 Electoral Vote 59,134,475 Popular Votes 3,476,775
2012 Election Results Map by State - Live Voting Updates - POLITICO.com

Demographics of How Groups Voted in the 2012 Presidential Election
Total vote Obama Romney
White group 72% 39% 59%
Blacks 13% 93 6
Hispanic 10% 71 27
Asian 3% 73 26
other 2% 58 38

FACTS!!!

LOL.. You are right, those are "facts".. However they prove nothing to you point (you must be retarded).

Romney lost by 47.2% of the popular vote. Look, facts!

Romney got roughly 67% of the 65+ (government handout takers!), he won in 8 of the top 10 states that accept the most gov't dollars (“pension benefits” include both Medicare and Social Security; “anti-poverty aid” includes Head Start, Low Income Home Energy Assistance, Food Stamp and nutrition programs for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), and several school-lunch-style benefits. ).

Well, you get the idea. The irony is palpable.

 

[Yurt]

before i even opened the thread i knew rdean was going to bring up race



what a dumbass, even if true, because one guy is a racist obama won't win...idiot

 

[Harry Dresden]

This message is hidden because rdean is on your ignore list.

+Reps to others that do this.

cant handle what Dean says?.....just askin....

I have a few of the morons on ignore but Rderp is just too much fun to mock.

as far as i am concerned Gramps....when you put someone on ignore....that person has gotten to you and has bested you....but thats me....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

cant handle what Dean says?.....just askin....

I have a few of the morons on ignore but Rderp is just too much fun to mock.

as far as i am concerned Gramps....when you put someone on ignore....that person has gotten to you and has bested you....but thats me....

Well I can assure you that people who do nothing but constant trolling or the serious mental cases haven't bested anything. I just don't feel like filtering through the bullshit

 

[bodecea]

About a year before the election, I was watching the news and they were interviewing this guy in Detroit on who looked about in his middle 40's.

And he said that he wanted to thank Obama for saving the car industry, his home, his job and because saved his job, he could keep his kid in college.

He said he felt bad Republicans would have let the auto industry die. Then he said in spite of all that, he just couldn't vote for a black as president. So I thought Obama was toast. I thought if people would vote against someone who kept their entire life from be completely ruined just because of race, Obama would never be elected to a second term. I'm guessing if Obama had been white, with his accomplishments, he would have won in a landslide.

I realized the thread was a lie when I got to "I thought" in the title.

So....how DID Obama do in the 2012 election?

 

[kaz]

About a year before the election, I was watching the news and they were interviewing this guy in Detroit on who looked about in his middle 40's.

And he said that he wanted to thank Obama for saving the car industry, his home, his job and because saved his job, he could keep his kid in college.

He said he felt bad Republicans would have let the auto industry die. Then he said in spite of all that, he just couldn't vote for a black as president. So I thought Obama was toast. I thought if people would vote against someone who kept their entire life from be completely ruined just because of race, Obama would never be elected to a second term. I'm guessing if Obama had been white, with his accomplishments, he would have won in a landslide.

Only a liberal would after a black was elected think he couldn't be re-elected because he's black...

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have a few of the morons on ignore but Rderp is just too much fun to mock.

as far as i am concerned Gramps....when you put someone on ignore....that person has gotten to you and has bested you....but thats me....

Well I can assure you that people who do nothing but constant trolling or the serious mental cases haven't bested anything. I just don't feel like filtering through the bullshit

whats there to filter?.....you skip their post.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Rdean is just comic relief that no one takes seriously. .. lol:

You must be looking in a mirror.

love these new posters who just joined....but yet they know everyone here....

 

[DigitalDrifter]

About a year before the election, I was watching the news and they were interviewing this guy in Detroit on who looked about in his middle 40's.

And he said that he wanted to thank Obama for saving the car industry, his home, his job and because saved his job, he could keep his kid in college.

He said he felt bad Republicans would have let the auto industry die. Then he said in spite of all hthat, he just couldn't vote for a black as president. So I thought Obama was toast. I thought if people would vote against someone who kept their entire life from be completely ruined just because of race, Obama would never be elected to a second term. I'm guessing if Obama had been white, with his accomplishments, he would have won in a landslide.

First of all, why are you bringing this up now ?

 

[rdean]

Why I thought Obama was going to lose the last election.

I completely underestimated the power and numbers of the takers, in this country, as well as O's ability to get the vote out, of the uninformed, low information voters.

When a corporation like Verizon can make 40 billion and pay zero in taxes, it's clear who the takers are. And they can only be enabled by the ignorant Republican base who defends them while getting screwed up the kazoo and digging it.

 

[rdean]

Obama was re-elected mainly due to a protective MSM, a hurricane, and massive voter fraud.

In other words, "God".

 

[rdean]

About a year before the election, I was watching the news and they were interviewing this guy in Detroit on who looked about in his middle 40's.

And he said that he wanted to thank Obama for saving the car industry, his home, his job and because saved his job, he could keep his kid in college.

He said he felt bad Republicans would have let the auto industry die. Then he said in spite of all that, he just couldn't vote for a black as president. So I thought Obama was toast. I thought if people would vote against someone who kept their entire life from be completely ruined just because of race, Obama would never be elected to a second term. I'm guessing if Obama had been white, with his accomplishments, he would have won in a landslide.

You need to have faith in the 47% and their enablers.

In an ironic twist of fate, Romney got 47% of the vote?

Election Results - 2012 Election Center - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

When Romney said he wouldn't support 47% of the country, Republicans don't understand he was talking about most of them.

 

[asterism]

Obama was re-elected EVEN though his major accomplishment ACA was totally passed by ONLY 7 YES votes and based entirely on a LIE that there were 46 million people that wanted insurance, were covered by Medicaid and were NOT eligible (illegals) added up to less the 4 million truly needing insurance!
Re-elected because 3 million ignorant conservatives thought Romney as a Mormon was worse then Obama for another 4 years!

These 3 million stayed at home. Didn't vote!
If these three million had voted, Romney's popular vote total would have beaten Obama's by 180,000. I don't know what it would mean Electoral College yet, that hasn't been analyzed, but this was not an election lost because of demography. It wasn't an election lost because we lost the women vote or Hispanic vote. We didn't turn our vote out. It's just that simple.

You're wrong. Romney got 61 million votes. That's 1 million more than McCain got, 2 million more than George W. Bush got in his 2nd run. Indeed, it was more votes than any candidate for President has ever gotten, except Barack Obama. Whether they were voting FOR Romney and his message, or AGAINST Obama and his, doesn't matter much: They still cast their votes for the Republican nominee instead of the Democratic one.

Why Obama won, and Romney lost, is debatable. You could blame it on Romney not convincing, or even un-convincing, independents and disaffected Democrats. You could blame it on demographic trends. You could blame it on his own difficulties in showing why he was (or believed he was) better than Obama. Or you could credit Obama and the Democrats for running an effective campaign.

But blaming the result on insufficient Republican turnout doesn't hold up.

Corporate sponsors get to mix it up in debate?

Hmmmm..............

 

[candycorn]

Actually that 47% that you are talking about voted for Rmoney.

You know are totally ignorant on how to use the Internet?? I mean here are the facts!

Barack Obama 332 Electoral Votes 62,611,250 Popular Votes
Mitt Romney 206 Electoral Vote 59,134,475 Popular Votes 3,476,775
2012 Election Results Map by State - Live Voting Updates - POLITICO.com

Demographics of How Groups Voted in the 2012 Presidential Election
Total vote Obama Romney
White group 72% 39% 59%
Blacks 13% 93 6
Hispanic 10% 71 27
Asian 3% 73 26
other 2% 58 38

FACTS!!!

LOL.. You are right, those are "facts".. However they prove nothing to you point (you must be retarded).

Romney lost by 47.2% of the popular vote. Look, facts!

Romney got roughly 67% of the 65+ (government handout takers!), he won in 8 of the top 10 states that accept the most gov't dollars (“pension benefits” include both Medicare and Social Security; “anti-poverty aid” includes Head Start, Low Income Home Energy Assistance, Food Stamp and nutrition programs for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), and several school-lunch-style benefits. ).

Well, you get the idea. The irony is palpable.

Also; what a lot of the Romney supporters don't know is that THEY are part of the 47% he was talking about....

 

[candycorn]

Why I thought Obama was going to lose the last election.

I completely underestimated the power and numbers of the takers, in this country, as well as O's ability to get the vote out, of the uninformed, low information voters.

When a corporation like Verizon can make 40 billion and pay zero in taxes, it's clear who the takers are. And they can only be enabled by the ignorant Republican base who defends them while getting screwed up the kazoo and digging it.

Yeah but if we started charging Verizon taxes and all; they will stop selling cell phones. At least that's the myth I keep hearing; like all of the sudden, MD's are going to turn in their stethoscopes and start picking grapefruit due to Obamacare. Gonna happen any day now.

 

[Toro]

I thought Obama was going to win because all the polls said he was going to win.

 

[Toro]

Obama was re-elected mainly due to a protective MSM, a hurricane, and massive voter fraud.

IOW, all the reasons why Republicans have lost 4 of the past 6 Presidential elections and the popular vote in 5 of the past 6 Presidential elections.



Outstanding.