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All silliness aside, if Jesus, Allah, and Gaia walk into a bar, which two of them are going to leave together?
It's your fantasy, I'm sure you'll come up with the answer you like best.
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All silliness aside, if Jesus, Allah, and Gaia walk into a bar, which two of them are going to leave together?
More bad news for the k00ks of this country tonight up in Wisconsin...........as I had astutely predicted months ago.
? what does this have to do with climate change, climate science, or anything even remotely related to environment?
And how long ago were the causes that allowed current release of the Calthrates?
That point from Gore specifically was denied by the judge as being unsupported.
I am not aware of any judge "denying" anything. In the UK rulings on the showing of Gore's documentary to UK school children, the judge did rule that certain sections did not seem to present information that was fully in accord with IPCC statements of the time, but he didn't deny or reject any of the film, and only found that some areas needed to be properly qualified and referenced, which was accomplished with the discussion guidelines developed by the UK education department.
And how long ago were the causes that allowed current release of the Calthrates?
That point from Gore specifically was denied by the judge as being unsupported.
I am not aware of any judge "denying" anything. In the UK rulings on the showing of Gore's documentary to UK school children, the judge did rule that certain sections did not seem to present information that was fully in accord with IPCC statements of the time, but he didn't deny or reject any of the film, and only found that some areas needed to be properly qualified and referenced, which was accomplished with the discussion guidelines developed by the UK education department.
Are similar disclaimers required for Math books? English? Real live science books?
If a judge is saying that showing a film requires that the major points of the film be pointed out as wrong, that should be a red flag alert.
This film is a piece of trash. The science is wrong on its face and the erroneous nature of the science is amplified by the intentional lies and unfounded implications of the narrator.
From small things like Polar Bears not being able to swim 60 miles to the imminent drowning of the United States, it's hyped propaganda and has no place in education or any place outside of Science fiction.
It's garbage.
17. iii) There are errors and omissions in the film, to which I shall refer, and respects in which the film, while purporting to set out the mainstream view (and to belittle opposing views), does in fact itself depart from that mainstream, in the sense of the "consensus" expressed in the IPCC reports.
19. Of course that is right, and ss406 and 407 are not concerned with scientific disputes or with the approach of teachers to them. However, as will be seen, some of the errors, or departures from the mainstream, by Mr Gore in AIT in the course of his dynamic exposition, do arise in the context of alarmism and exaggeration in support of his political thesis. It is in that context that the Defendant, in actively distributing the film to all schools, may need to make clear that:
i) some or all of those matters are not supported/promoted by the Defendant [s406].
21. However, for those same two reasons set out in paragraph 19 above , the teachers must at least be put into a position to appreciate when there are or may be material errors of fact, which they may well not, save for the most informed science teachers.
25. This is distinctly alarmist, and part of Mr Gore's 'wake-up call'. It is common ground that if indeed Greenland melted, it would release this amount of water, but only after, and over, millennia, so that the Armageddon scenario he predicts, insofar as it suggests that sea level rises of 7 metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus.
Hey that looks like a claim of error!
More bad news for the k00ks of this country tonight up in Wisconsin...........as I had astutely predicted months ago.
? what does this have to do with climate change, climate science, or anything even remotely related to environment?
17. iii) There are errors and omissions in the film, to which I shall refer, and respects in which the film, while purporting to set out the mainstream view (and to belittle opposing views), does in fact itself depart from that mainstream, in the sense of the "consensus" expressed in the IPCC reports.
19. Of course that is right, and ss406 and 407 are not concerned with scientific disputes or with the approach of teachers to them. However, as will be seen, some of the errors, or departures from the mainstream, by Mr Gore in AIT in the course of his dynamic exposition, do arise in the context of alarmism and exaggeration in support of his political thesis. It is in that context that the Defendant, in actively distributing the film to all schools, may need to make clear that:
i) some or all of those matters are not supported/promoted by the Defendant [s406].
21. However, for those same two reasons set out in paragraph 19 above , the teachers must at least be put into a position to appreciate when there are or may be material errors of fact, which they may well not, save for the most informed science teachers.
25. "Errors" This is distinctly alarmist, and part of Mr Gore's 'wake-up call'. It is common ground that if indeed Greenland melted, it would release this amount of water, but only after, and over, millennia, so that the Armageddon scenario he predicts, insofar as it suggests that sea level rises of 7 metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus.
Hey that looks like a claim of error!
17. iii) There are errors and omissions in the film, to which I shall refer, and respects in which the film, while purporting to set out the mainstream view (and to belittle opposing views), does in fact itself depart from that mainstream, in the sense of the "consensus" expressed in the IPCC reports.
19. Of course that is right, and ss406 and 407 are not concerned with scientific disputes or with the approach of teachers to them. However, as will be seen, some of the errors, or departures from the mainstream, by Mr Gore in AIT in the course of his dynamic exposition, do arise in the context of alarmism and exaggeration in support of his political thesis. It is in that context that the Defendant, in actively distributing the film to all schools, may need to make clear that:
i) some or all of those matters are not supported/promoted by the Defendant [s406].
21. However, for those same two reasons set out in paragraph 19 above , the teachers must at least be put into a position to appreciate when there are or may be material errors of fact, which they may well not, save for the most informed science teachers.
25. "Errors" This is distinctly alarmist, and part of Mr Gore's 'wake-up call'. It is common ground that if indeed Greenland melted, it would release this amount of water, but only after, and over, millennia, so that the Armageddon scenario he predicts, insofar as it suggests that sea level rises of 7 metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus.
Hey that looks like a claim of error!
Let's take a look at the nice graph, which plots CO2, in ppm, and temperature, in degrees centigrade. Notice how the swings in temperature tended to be 10 C, until along came 20,000 years ago, when CO2 again rose, to force temperatures up. The current upswing is tighter, than the others, but like the others, CO2 wanted to adjust, downward, toward forcing a cool-down.
But humans were busier, at industry and defoliation, since the end of the 18th Century. So CO2 shot off the scale, all the way past the usual 280 ppm equilibrium maximum, past the arbitrary safe maximum of 350 ppm, to 400 ppm, today. Temperatures will follow, with acidification and faster warming, from released methane. No way can we beat runaway global warming, without re-greening the entire planet, deserts, oceans, and all. Or we will eat shit and die.
Shit. You should look at some of the 'fresh water hurricanes' that have happened on the great lakes. Many between the years of 1871 and 1940. Boy I'm rusty. I can't recall many off of the top of my head, but the Lake Huron blow in 1913 (IIRC) killed more sailors, sank more steel ships and damaged more shipping than any other single blow in history. The Armistice Day Storm in 1940 was a whopper on Lake Michigan too. Killed people a hundred miles inland from it's severity. Lake Erie and Lake Superior both have had incredibly big storms too. I also remember the Mataafa Storm of 1905. THat's a freaky one.And after the weather disasters in 2010, 2011, the 'apocalyptic' vision looks like an accurate prediction.
Yeah, those things NEVER happened ever before, nope not ever....Below are links to 3 storms from the 1890's and I tossed one in from 1933. This refutes the bullshit meme that the storms of today are any different than those of the past. Punch in ANY year you wish and you will see that the same thing happens every year. In other words olfraud when you predict that it's going to get dark at night you can bet a good amount of money that you'll be right...but is that really a prediction?
Another epic fail on the part of the religious zealots.
Baltic Sea storm flood 1872
The Chesapeake/Potomac Hurricane of August 23, 1933s
The Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1812 - New Orleans History & Culture | Examiner.com
1899 Atlantic hurricane season - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Big storms come and go.
More bad news for the k00ks of this country tonight up in Wisconsin...........as I had astutely predicted months ago.
? what does this have to do with climate change, climate science, or anything even remotely related to environment?
And how long ago were the causes that allowed current release of the Calthrates?
That point from Gore specifically was denied by the judge as being unsupported.
I am not aware of any judge "denying" anything. In the UK rulings on the showing of Gore's documentary to UK school children, the judge did rule that certain sections did not seem to present information that was fully in accord with IPCC statements of the time, but he didn't deny or reject any of the film, and only found that some areas needed to be properly qualified and referenced, which was accomplished with the discussion guidelines developed by the UK education department.
Hmm...seems like I used your own source to disprove your assertion. I quoted sections, while you interpreted from your own views. Pretty funny. How does it feel to have failed from your own source?
You educate no one?I have one interest in my posting and one interest only = educating the curious who wander into this forum.
Skooks -
You can not read or write. You are illiterate. You educate no one.
Your only purpose on this forum is to prove that on a daily basis.
Yes, yes, BigFizzle, we all already know that you're completely ignorant of the scientific basis of climate science and totally unwilling to learn anything no matter how many times it is explained. You are a troll and a particularly stupid one at that. Go f... yourself, retard.You educate no one?I have one interest in my posting and one interest only = educating the curious who wander into this forum.
Skooks -
You can not read or write. You are illiterate. You educate no one.
Your only purpose on this forum is to prove that on a daily basis.
Were you looking in a mirror when you typed that?
So you gonna answer the question or keep running pussy? How is it man can control climate when they produce less than 0.06% of 0.04% of the atmospheric CO2 which is only 0.0024% of total composition?
Did you think the runaway warming, triggered by methane release means it's time to go really fast and shoot some more meth?Holy Mother of God..................
Thank goodness these people are the fringe in America..........LOL.......and they revel in it!!!
Social oddbALLs are gay
I am not aware of any judge "denying" anything. In the UK rulings on the showing of Gore's documentary to UK school children, the judge did rule that certain sections did not seem to present information that was fully in accord with IPCC statements of the time, but he didn't deny or reject any of the film, and only found that some areas needed to be properly qualified and referenced, which was accomplished with the discussion guidelines developed by the UK education department.
Are similar disclaimers required for Math books? English? Real live science books?
Are you claiming that a public release documentry should be held to the same standards as academic textbooks? Not that I neccessarily disagree, but I've never heard that argument put forward before.
If a judge is saying that showing a film requires that the major points of the film be pointed out as wrong, that should be a red flag alert.
I would agree that it should be considered a red flag. Can you identify an instance where any judge has done so in regards to "An Inconvenient Truth?" I presened a link to the actual judgment rulling in the UK case, and that judge certainly is not pointing out any major points in the film as wrong.
This film is a piece of trash. The science is wrong on its face and the erroneous nature of the science is amplified by the intentional lies and unfounded implications of the narrator.
From small things like Polar Bears not being able to swim 60 miles to the imminent drowning of the United States, it's hyped propaganda and has no place in education or any place outside of Science fiction.
It's garbage.
Your assessments and impressions are subjectively personal and are not in accord with either the mainstream scientific perspective nor the findings of the Judge in the UK case.
The judge's findings in regards to the UK case - Dimmock v Secretary of State for Education & Skills [2007] EWHC 2288 (Admin) (10 October 2007)
An Inconvenient Truth: The Scientific Argument - http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/222/ait.pdf
An Inconvenient Truth and the scientists - http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/88/an_inconvenient_truth_2007.pdf
Science and Hollywood: a discussion of the scientific accuracy of An Inconvenient Truth - GeoJournal, Volume 70, Number 1 - SpringerLink