Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

[Luddly Neddite]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

That you're so desperate that you make up something THIS dumb tells me all I need to know about your opinion of gays.























Get help.

 

[Moonglow]

Why is the straight community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

 

[Moonglow]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

That you're so desperate that you make up something THIS dumb tells me all I need to know about your opinion of gays.






















Get help.

He must be talking to those gay men at the porn theater again...while they are, you know, getting hairy palms....

 

[Moonglow]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

If gay men are looking at naked men they will get aroused.

you think?.......and i hear that a heterosexual guy looking at naked woman will get aroused too.....

What is even worse? They are getting aroused looking at a naked men performing sex and having no problem with it...their favorite moment is the facials, they love seeing the spunk fly!

 

[Moonglow]

What consenting individuals do in the bedroom is their business alone.

But it may NOT be between consenting people... if one of the gay's has a problem why is he being forced into sex?
Of course you don't know what the situations are so you can't comment about "consenting"...

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."

Yes, old Shakespeare sure did not involve hereto lovers killing themselves....

 

[Zmrzlina]

What consenting individuals do in the bedroom is their business alone.

But it may NOT be between consenting people... if one of the gay's has a problem why is he being forced into sex?
Of course you don't know what the situations are so you can't comment about "consenting"...

You obviously don't fully grasp the concept of consent if you believe that homosexuals somehow are unable to give consent.

 

[MaryL]

Homosexuals like therapy. Anaylisis. But not so much being cured.

 

[healthmyths]

Why is the straight community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Haven't seen ONE single straight asking for laws making conversion therapy illegal. Only gay community.

 

[Seawytch]

Why is the straight community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Haven't seen ONE single straight asking for laws making conversion therapy illegal. Only gay community.

Then you aren't looking. The American Psychological Association has soundly rejected this "voodoo" therapy.

Resolution on Appropriate Affirmative Responses to Sexual Orientation Distress and Change Efforts

 

[rdean]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

If gay men are looking at naked men they will get aroused.

you think?.......and i hear that a heterosexual guy looking at naked woman will get aroused too.....

Anyone can get aroused looking at the motion of the ocean, doesn't mean they are all sailors.

 

[rdean]

"conversion therapy"

Republicans always like torture. Unless they are the ones being tortured.

 

[BobPlumb]

Did Anne Heche receive this therapy?

 

[rdean]

Did Anne Heche receive this therapy?

Of course. She was forced to bob for apples.

 

[NLT]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

you cant "fix" fag

 

[emilynghiem]

Why is the straight community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Haven't seen ONE single straight asking for laws making conversion therapy illegal. Only gay community.

What? [MENTION=32646]healthmyths[/MENTION]

Gov. Christie (R) spoke out publicly condemning the conversion therapy as abusive.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ie-gay-conversion-therapy-new-jersey/2671197/

That's why the Republic Party had to counteract and defend Reparative Therapy as an effective OPTION
that is NOT abusive but elected freely by people who have been helped VOLUNTARILY.
One of my closest friends said his therapist helped him overcome his issues with orientation, so he agreed NOT TO BAN therapy that can help people.
That is going TOO FAR: banning ABUSE is one thing, but not ALL practices where some are actually effective and proven to help people restore their natural state of health.

Note: I believe the abusive forced conversion approach is fraudulent and
AGAINST the effective methods of Spiritual Healing used to recover from abuses.
When the Natural Healing process is followed, the abuses, causes and symptoms
are healed, including any unnatural or addictive behavior whether heterosexual or homosexual. So this is not discrminatory but works on healing all types of abuse or addictions, not just sexual and not just homosexual. So that is the type of healing I have found that works, based on forgiveness therapy which is voluntary and natural, not forced.

 

[emilynghiem]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

you cant "fix" fag

Yes and no.

If people are spiritually born and meant to be this way for life, no that cannot change.
Many Christians have even come out with this realization and accepted that
"some Eunuchs are made by God and some by man."

If people's sexual behavior is unnatural, caused by abuse,
this CAN be healed and changed, whether heterosexual or homosexual.

The issue is UNNATURAL sexual behavior, addiction and abuse.
Some cases CAN be healed and some cannot.

Some of the extreme cases of sexual or criminal addiction are so engrained,
the relapses are ongoing and the person cannot function in society.

With the applications of spiritual healing to cancer,
again, some cases are born, some are caused by environmental factors,
some can be healed by spiritual therapy (by identifiying the root cause of unforgiven conflicts otherwise blocking the natural healing of the mind and body) and some cannot.

With homosexuality, and other sexual/heterosexual patterns of behavior,
some of the cases of abuses or addictions may respond to spiritual healing and therapy
and some may not.

Sources: Dr. Francis MacNutt Home - Christian Healing Ministries
"Healing"
"Homosexuality Can it be Healed"
This practictioner and trainer in spiritual healing presents the most fair explanation of why cases are different, and why people respond differently, some changing and some not.
He also denounces fraudulent practices as damaging, in contrast with how true spiritual healing works naturally with science and medicine as a free and voluntary process.

 

[emilynghiem]

"conversion therapy"

Republicans always like torture. Unless they are the ones being tortured.

Fraudulent forced conversion that is abusive
is NOT the same
as freely elected spiritual healing that addresses abuses and unnatural symptoms related.

These are totally different, complete opposites!

Spiritual healing is based on forgiveness which is freely chosen
and has a NATURAL healing effect on mind, body and relationships.

rdean, I even had a friend experience the "spiritual healing" process of forgiveness
and then COME OUT AS TRANSGENDER after he was healed of guilt and anger.

So that is how powerful the forgiveness and healing is.
Whatever is someone's NATURAL state, that is what they return to.
it is NOT converting someone to something they are not
(those false conditions based on fear are what spiritual healing seeks to REMOVE)

My friend admitted he was born with a female personality,
knew it all along but suppressed it because of social expectations,
and only after he forgave and let go of fear and judgment
did he reclaim his true self.

 

[emilynghiem]

What consenting individuals do in the bedroom is their business alone.

But it may NOT be between consenting people... if one of the gay's has a problem why is he being forced into sex?
Of course you don't know what the situations are so you can't comment about "consenting"...

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."

I agree HM and would take it further.
That the sex involved in unwanted pregnancies, unwanted abortion, unwanted children
is not fully consensual either, where the people did not really want the pregnancy.
If the sex was CONDITIONED on the premise that no pregnancy occurs, then it is not fully wanted unconditionally by both partners.

People have very little concept of what CONSENT truly means
because we bully and coerce and compromise all the time.

Look at our political system: how much of the laws that pass
do we really CONSENT to? Very few. So it's no wonder people have no concept!

This issue of Consent affects society in more areas than just sex.

 

[emilynghiem]

Why is the straight community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

The reports we hear about in the media involve cruel psychological torture, punishment, abuse using force, fear based and guilt tactics.

So this is blamed on religious groups which is an easy target and popular scapegoat to label.

What ISN'T so easily heard or researched
are the effective methods of spiritual healing that DON'T
involve abuse but do the opposite by HEALING abuse
through forgiveness and recovery therapy.

Because recovery can take 10 to 20 years in extreme cases of overcoming abuse/addiction,
we don't hear about the successful recovery, only the abusive fraud that fails.

In general, people today are so afraid to credit the Christian or religious right/conservative
with ANYTHING they may be right about, for FEAR they will abuse it to IMPOSE religious doctrines and practices.

So it is more common to reject and denounce religious beliefs or practices to counteract the history or risk of more imposition.

 

[sealybobo]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

Don't forget us hetero's that are pro lgbt. The reason we hate this is because it makes people who are born gay hate themselves. I just saw a wonderful story about a transgender woman/man who was born a boy but was clearly a woman trapped in a boys body and his church told him it was a sin and he tried to kill himself. Today, without the sadistic fucking church she's doing great. Fuck religion. It's holding us back in so many ways.

If you are bi sexual then you can date whoever you want. You shouldn't need therapy. Just choose.

But if you are struggling then that's just society fucking with you and what do they know? Look at them. Remember people who live in glass houses.

Straight people. What are the 7 deadly sins? Why don't you focus on those sins, YOUR sins? Why you got to worry about gays?