Why legalizing marijuana is the second largest mistake of our day

[Pop23]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

Oops
Officials: Cigarette-smuggling ring in East Coast may have terror link - CNN.com

That really doesn't bolster your point.

When booze was banned the same thing happened

Are you not surprised?

Those who forget history are condemned to.....you get my point

Geez

 

[RKMBrown]

First of all, any active drug in marijuana can be extracted and given in pill form, so anyone who tells you marijuana is needed for medicinal purposes, or any hospital that allows people to take it, is on the drug-lord payroll.
The reason why people have the balls to make a "medicinal" claim is because they know, 1) many pharmaceutical drugs are sold that have little , or an unknown, effect and , 2) many pharmaceutical drugs are converted forms of street drugs.

Someone has decided they want to sell this cash crop in America so the conspirators in our society have completely invented legitimacy for it.

Is that the country you want to live in? The truth is what ever the rich SAY the truth is.

The only things you will accomplish by voting for legalized marijuana are,
1) The rich will be able to capitalize off of drug addiction.
2) You will increase sickness in the population. (Expenses which you will be forced to cover in the health care bill)
3) You will provide the "gateway" drug to introduce the youth of America to harder drugs. (Nearly every drug addict says they started with pot)
4) You will criminalize thousands/millions of people.

but you say , aren't we DEcriminalizing marijuana?
No you're not.
You're telling the young people in our country that it's ok to smoke pot, then every time they leave their house they will be at risk for getting arrested.

FOR EXAMPLE:
By voting to legalize marijuana you are telling young people at an early age that it's ok to use it, everyone is doing it.
A person is going to spend 20 years of their life handing their money over to legalized drug dealers, then one day they will get into a car accident and fail a very strict drug test.
We are rapidly approaching an era where people with any kind of mistake on their criminal history, driving record, or even credit history, will not be able to find work anywhere.

Our government is legalizing the selling of marijuana, not the using.

In Los Angeles when marijuana was legalized, the drug dispensaries popped up all over the place.
Now they've passed a law that only the first 135 who registered can stay in business.(no doubt the first 135 were in cahoots with the politicians)
It's a racket, it's not going to work the way you imagine.

...and if you think the government is going to say "Hey! we never have to raise taxes again because marijuana sales pays for everything!" ...then you've already been smoking weed.

Pretty sick the vile extent that some authoritarians will go to exert authority on others. Why don't you go beat your wife and leave the rest of us alone?

 

[Borillar]

People aren't going to stop drinking
People aren't going to stop doing pot

Keep throwing people into a prison to rot and turn us into China of 1949. Shows what you really are...A thug.

Is it thuggish to want to see people free of drug addiction? You want people to make their own prisons, which is far worse.

In China, they were free of drug addiction because users were taken out and shot. Is that the penalty you think is commensurate with smoking pot?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Of course it's a fallacy.
But hey. If alcohol is OK then MJ is ok too. ANd what about crack? Meth? Crank? Once you open the door there is no closing it.

If those were all suddenly legalized tomorrow are you going to run out and start using them?

Another fallacy.
Is there no one out there who doesn't use those drugs? Do people not start using those drugs, or were they somehow just born using them? Why do you think making something legal and available will somehow magically make it less used? Did you study Econ 101?

Rabbi you ever drink a beer or two when you get home from work?....

 

[Glensather]

Throwing millions of people into our prison system for smoking a leaf=stupid. Time to refocus our priorities.

Shhh.... you're speaking with logic again. We need to keep our prisons at capacity! Didn't you know?

 

[Pop23]

If those were all suddenly legalized tomorrow are you going to run out and start using them?

Another fallacy.
Is there no one out there who doesn't use those drugs? Do people not start using those drugs, or were they somehow just born using them? Why do you think making something legal and available will somehow magically make it less used? Did you study Econ 101?

Rabbi you ever drink a beer or two when you get home from work?....

Beer after all is a gateway drug, as is sugar

 

[Harry Dresden]

I want to execute people who violate certain laws against drugs in this country. You got a problem with it?

You call yourself "small government", but want to execute people for abusing drugs, as long as they are the drugs the GOVERNMENT says are the bad ones.

It isn't the government saying that, po boy.
Sometimes gov't just needs to step in and do the right thing. Not often. Not every time. But this is one of them.

so are you against the Government stepping in and helping people who are sick and have no Ins?......

 

[Harry Dresden]

The alcohol fallacy again. SO if alcohol is so bad why would you want to make things worse by legalizing pot?

how does it make it worse?.....ban Alcohol and cigarettes and i will gladly be for the banning of Pot.....until then....ill take the one that does the least damage....

Except they aren't equivalent in any way at all. You might as well discuss banning motor oil.

thats right ....Pot is no where near the Destructiveness of the other two.....you are learning something Rabbi.....good for you....

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Please spare us the alcohol/pot bullshit. People should not be arrested for things they do in the privacy of their homes that harm no one.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Another fallacy.
Is there no one out there who doesn't use those drugs? Do people not start using those drugs, or were they somehow just born using them? Why do you think making something legal and available will somehow magically make it less used? Did you study Econ 101?

Rabbi you ever drink a beer or two when you get home from work?....

Beer after all is a gateway drug, as is sugar

and Sugar is pretty destructive.....little kids across the Country start off their day with a bowl of Sugar with a little milk....that's acceptable though.....overweight little kids who turn into Diabetics....but Pot will destroy the Country.....

 

[Pop23]

Rabbi you ever drink a beer or two when you get home from work?....

Beer after all is a gateway drug, as is sugar

and Sugar is pretty destructive.....little kids across the Country start off their day with a bowl of Sugar with a little milk....that's acceptable though.....overweight little kids who turn into Diabetics....but Pot will destroy the Country.....

And don't forget, they use the same argument to ban pot as they do to try to stop us from enjoying sugar, tobacco and just about any other thing the common man is "allowed" to enjoy.

Got money you get to enjoy the world, got little, well, that's YOUR problem.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

What is it with these big government tax and spenders so focused on other people's lives that they want the government meddling in the personal aspects of our lives to the point they would ban one of God's plants?

Big government types like that have a lot to answer for, that's for sure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Decriminalizing marijuana will kill the private prisons and the power of the guard unions: good things, folks.

It will decrease the violence in our cities.

Decriminalize much of the illegal substances with marijuana, regulate it, tax it, and America will become less violent and have far less need of prisons.

 

[The Rabbi]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

Oops
Officials: Cigarette-smuggling ring in East Coast may have terror link - CNN.com

Nonetheless, almost all smokers buy legal and taxed cigarettes instead. There are not massive tobacco cartels, because there isn't enough demand for the illegal product.

We don't even need to resort to hypotheticals here. Just read any history book that covers the era of Prohibition.

Oh. Snap.
Tobacco Underground: The Global Trade in Smuggled Cigarettes | ICIJ: International Consortium of Investigative Journalists

 

[Borillar]

Seems like most people across the political spectrum think the war on some drugs is a failure. Why then do both parties continue like lemmings to perpetuate it?

 

[The Rabbi]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

Oops
Officials: Cigarette-smuggling ring in East Coast may have terror link - CNN.com

That really doesn't bolster your point.

When booze was banned the same thing happened

Are you not surprised?

Those who forget history are condemned to.....you get my point

Geez

You missed the point. I'm demonstrating the fallacy that if you legalize pot and tax the hell out of it you will eliminate criminal syndicates. That is plainly not so. Cigarettes are legal but in places where the govt has taxed the hell out of it you have criminal syndicates smuggling the stuff, undermining the tax revenue.

That particular argument for legalization is dead.

 

[The Rabbi]

Seems like most people across the political spectrum think the war on some drugs is a failure. Why then do both parties continue like lemmings to perpetuate it?

Because we dont have the will to shit or get off the pot. So to speak. If it's really a danger then we need to make it prohibitive to traffic in the stuff. If it isnt we need to legalize it. What we have now is just a waste.

 

[Yurt]

marijuana in a pill form is NOT the same as marijuana in its natural form.

most people are truly clueless when it comes to marijuana, the OP exhibits this.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Rabbi makes an argument and offers no actual evidence. Very little violent RICO activity occurs in smuggling TN tobacco elsewhere.

Moron.

Right wing statist moron.

 

[Yurt]

The Rabbi makes an argument and offers no actual evidence. Very little violent RICO activity occurs in smuggling TN tobacco elsewhere.

Moron.

Right wing statist moron.

you are the bane of intelligent conversation anywhere. you assume that those opposed to marijuana are all right wing. you show yourself to not only be ignorant, but a troll.