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Would Ford have abandoned all of the private auto market to build tanks? Could they have gotten the resources they needed to meet production quotas? Could they protect their critical workforce?Do you imagine that Ford Motor Company would have refused to build all the tanks and B-17s the government wanted? Currently the market provides all the hardware the military requires. What possible reason could there be that it couldn't do so during WW II?
Please explain why the government had to decide how much tin to mine or how much steel to produce during a war.
Ford would have devoted its production to whatever returned the most profit. Nothing screws up getting the resources a company needs better than some bureaucrat being put in charge of it. When has a private company that was making a good profit ever had trouble getting the resources it needs? Can you name a single instance? And what does it mean to "protect its critical work force?" Employers keep their best employees around by paying them the market wage or better. FDR actually screwed that up by freezing wages during the war. That's how we got employer paid health insurance, if you don't recall. Companies couldn't offer critical employees higher wages, so they offered them free healthcare instead.
So you see, the market does a better job than some bureaucrat moron.
Free market would have been a disaster
Nope. The free market works beautifully every time it's tried.
Anyone who believes government can do a better job of allocating resources than the market is basically just a Marxist moron.
Would Ford have abandoned all of the private auto market to build tanks? Could they have gotten the resources they needed to meet production quotas? Could they protect their critical workforce?
Ford would have devoted its production to whatever returned the most profit. Nothing screws up getting the resources a company needs better than some bureaucrat being put in charge of it. When has a private company that was making a good profit ever had trouble getting the resources it needs? Can you name a single instance? And what does it mean to "protect its critical work force?" Employers keep their best employees around by paying them the market wage or better. FDR actually screwed that up by freezing wages during the war. That's how we got employer paid health insurance, if you don't recall. Companies couldn't offer critical employees higher wages, so they offered them free healthcare instead.
So you see, the market does a better job than some bureaucrat moron.
Free market would have been a disaster
Nope. The free market works beautifully every time it's tried.
Anyone who believes government can do a better job of allocating resources than the market is basically just a Marxist moron.
Would they now?
If GM and Chrysler (as well as all the other auto companies) gave up commercial production and Ford would be the only manufacturer still selling to Main Street America, you think they wouldn't have done it?
All the while drawing precious resources from the war effort
Why does it matter whether you call it a subsidy or not? If a tax exemption is special quid-pro-quo favor extended to select targets, it's wrong. I still don't get the hair spitting here.
Why would business development be wrong?
Read my post again.
Why would business development be wrong?
Read my post again.
I read you post. It's opinions based on ignorance.
Dictating to any private company how much of their resources go to anything is outright dictatorial tyranny.Government forced demand.. using a power that is not constitutionally granted.. mandating the purchase of a good or service.. with kickbacks from the companies providing the service
If it were all private enterprise, the forced purchase would not be there... kinda like is SS were so great, why is it mandated and forced? People would flock to it over private investment? Hardly
The issue was 'European socialism'. Where can you get United HealthCare in Europe?
Kickbacks? Making insurance companies spend 80% of their collected premiums on claims is a 'kickback'?
Yes, we've heard that lie over and over again, Mr. Carney.Well the plan we had is no longer available to us. I've looked. So that was taken away from me by Obamacare.
The premium we were paying for our insurance has been increased by 38%. So losing my ability to choose the policy I wanted is costing me 38% more this year and is guaranteed to sky rocket next year. (Our insurance company has already warned us about that and told us to be ready.)
So why do you have to pay for my cancer treatment? Where is the constitutional authority for that? Please point to the specific clause. If I have to pay for your treatment or you have to pay for mine, how is that not a confiscation of our respective personal property? By what constitutional authority is the federal government authorized to force Citizen A to support Citizen B in any way just because Citizen A has been more financially succesful than Citizen B?
Your plan was taken away by YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY who could have very easily amended your policy, but YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY CANCELED YOUR POLICY.
Fact is that O-care made those policies illegal.
Puhleeze. Only the terminally gullible believe that's an accurate description of the arrangement.
My insurance card reads 'United HealthCare', how about yours.
What does that have to do with your attempt to impose fascist healthcare on everyone?
You don't "owe it from revenue." You owe it from income. You keep getting those two things confused.
The issue is collected sales tax as part of revenue. Which it isn't.
Sales tax is not the only tax businesses pay. Almost any exemption the receive is on their income taxes.
My insurance card reads 'United HealthCare', how about yours.
What does that have to do with your attempt to impose fascist healthcare on everyone?
The issue was 'socialist'. How can you have 'socialist' when a private company is providing the coverage?
The 4th amendment right to be secure in your papers, houses and effects, for one. The NSA routinely spies on Americans. Then there's the TSA wich feels you up even though you are not suspected of any crime. Obama also gave himself the right to kill American citizens without a trial. By not enforcing the immigration laws, Obama failed to enforce equal protection of the laws. The same goes for the exemptions he granted regarding Obamacare.
I could go on and on, but that should be sufficient.
And libturds lick Obama's asshole every chance they get.
Disgusting.
When was I spied upon?
You mean you don't read the papers?
Why is crony capitalism wrong? I thought you libs were opposed to crony capitalism. Apparently you mean something else by the term.
You seem to have me confused with someone else.
I'm a registered Republican, but I ...
There's seems to be a lot of that going around.
You seem to have me confused with someone else.
I'm a registered Republican, but I ...
There's seems to be a lot of that going around.
'a lot' of what? Not quoting the entire post to be deceptive?
Why is crony capitalism wrong? I thought you libs were opposed to crony capitalism. Apparently you mean something else by the term.
You seem to have me confused with someone else.
I'm a registered Republican, but I don't necessarily conform to Republican ideology, in that I support middle-class Americans.
I'm pro death penalty. We don't do nearly enough.
I said "lib." I didn't say Democrat. I seriously doubt you are registered as a Republican. It's obvious you don't conform to Republican ideology. You're fairly close to being a Marxist.
You support the middle class the same way Obama supports them, by bending them over and fucking them up the ass.
Actually, that is why out country has become dysfunctional.Actually, that is how our country functions. If you think your "rights" are violated, you have access to the court system
Great country, isn't it?
My rights were meant to be above the "if you don't like it, sue me" mindset of despotic thugs, finger wagging nannies and bureaucratic tyrants.
So much for greatness.
Well, you have a dilemma then don't you?
You can't find enough other voters who agree with you
The courts do not agree with you
What do you have left?
Bitching on a Message Board I guess
I can tell truth from propaganda. Along with being able to tell sincerity from disingenuousness.Yes, we've heard that lie over and over again, Mr. Carney.Your plan was taken away by YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY who could have very easily amended your policy, but YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY CANCELED YOUR POLICY.
Fact is that O-care made those policies illegal.
I see you're having a problem wrapping your head around the truth.
Read my post again.
I read you post. It's opinions based on ignorance.
The point is, I didn't say business development was wrong. I said targeted tax incentives are wrong. My opinion is based on a respect for equal protection and rule of law.
There's seems to be a lot of that going around.
'a lot' of what? Not quoting the entire post to be deceptive?
People claiming to be something they're not as rhetorical gimmick.
I can tell truth from propaganda. Along with being able to tell sincerity from disingenuousness.Yes, we've heard that lie over and over again, Mr. Carney.
Fact is that O-care made those policies illegal.
I see you're having a problem wrapping your head around the truth.
You have the latter of those all sewn up.
I also know when disingenuous phonies are peeing on my leg and telling me it's raining.I can tell truth from propaganda. Along with being able to tell sincerity from disingenuousness.I see you're having a problem wrapping your head around the truth.
You have the latter of those all sewn up.
And yet you haven't proven it's propaganda.
Actually, that is why out country has become dysfunctional.
My rights were meant to be above the "if you don't like it, sue me" mindset of despotic thugs, finger wagging nannies and bureaucratic tyrants.
So much for greatness.
Well, you have a dilemma then don't you?
You can't find enough other voters who agree with you
The courts do not agree with you
What do you have left?
Bitching on a Message Board I guess
Hard to compete with voters who's rather depend on the government to get what they feel they "need". Sorta puts to shame the old generation who rolls up their sleeves and works hard to supply a better life for the next generation. Now we simply vote for a system that will do it for us, making each generation less appreciative and more selfish than the last. There used to be a time when parents were motivated by passing down strong, solid work ethics to their children. Government entitlements have changed all that.
