Why the current GOP leadership is un-American and cowardly .....

[koshergrl]

The lack of response to Trump's increasing insanity by the current GOP leadership is mostly based on fear that the orange clown will turn on them with his tweets and schoolyard bullying.....BUT, even more cowardly, the wish to get reelected and satisfy their donors in passing tax "reform," may be the main reason why they are silent, choosing to sacrifice the welfare of this country for a few more years in power.

Perhaps IF these cowards can "boast" over passing the tax reforms, they will finally wake the fuck up and stand up to this madness..........We may survive the upcoming royal screwing of the middle class from these tax give-away, BUT, we may not survive this thoroughly flawed scourge of an administration.

This issue is WAY BEYOND partQUOTEstory (if someone is left to write it) will label these cowards with infamy. (Take notice,McConnell and Ryan, et al.)

Did it ever occur to you that the more you whine, the stronger support for him grows?

What if all the liberals tried something different?

What if the MSM tried supporting him? I think if CNN and the Democrats started supporting him and working with him, his supporters would probably turn on him. . .





A few months ago, I thought, hmmm. . . If Sanders ran in 2020, surely he would slaughter Trump. Now? I'm not so sure.

I read an article recently, and it was not encouraging.

Bernie Sanders will Face Donald Trump in 2020 Election, Democrats Say
Read the comments on this article. It would seem that folks are quite happy with the current president, at least over a possible Democratic challenger?

It's just not going to happen.

Both sides are currently locked into manic hyperbole mode

Not exactly true. There are fundamental differences between two diametrically opposed philosophies - one traditional American, the other totalitarian Euro-socialist - for which there can be no compromise.

Oh, I see plenty of manic, binary thinking from both ends.

"No compromise". There it is. And it just doesn't work in a large, complicated republic.
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No compromise with traitors, scumbags and commies. We came perilously close to becoming a communist shithole because we were willing to compromise.

 

[nat4900]

When I look at all Donald's rantings and ravings and then compare them to yours, there's little difference, you're both given to frequent fits of irrationality and public outbursts that would make a victim of Tourette syndrome blush.

MORON......get off that fucking fence........I DO NOT have the power to fuck the entire planet......Your.....(and its is YOUR lack of a spine to stand up to evil)....orange clown does, not me or any other liberal on here.....The off that pot..

 

[Wry Catcher]

The lack of response to Trump's increasing insanity by the current GOP leadership is mostly based on fear that the orange clown will turn on them with his tweets and schoolyard bullying.....BUT, even more cowardly, the wish to get reelected and satisfy their donors in passing tax "reform," may be the main reason why they are silent, choosing to sacrifice the welfare of this country for a few more years in power.

Perhaps IF these cowards can "boast" over passing the tax reforms, they will finally wake the fuck up and stand up to this madness..........We may survive the upcoming royal screwing of the middle class from these tax give-away, BUT, we may not survive this thoroughly flawed scourge of an administration.

This issue is WAY BEYOND partisanship......and history (if someone is left to write it) will label these cowards with infamy. (Take notice,McConnell and Ryan, et al.)

Did it ever occur to you that the more you whine, the stronger support for him grows?

What if all the liberals tried something different?

What if the MSM tried supporting him? I think if CNN and the Democrats started supporting him and working with him, his supporters would probably turn on him. . .





A few months ago, I thought, hmmm. . . If Sanders ran in 2020, surely he would slaughter Trump. Now? I'm not so sure.

I read an article recently, and it was not encouraging.

Bernie Sanders will Face Donald Trump in 2020 Election, Democrats Say
Read the comments on this article. It would seem that folks are quite happy with the current president, at least over a possible Democratic challenger?

It's just not going to happen.

Both sides are currently locked into manic hyperbole mode, everyone on the other side is Hitler, the world is ending because of the other side.

We need to somehow marginalize the lunatics. I have no ideas on how to do that.
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NOPE......this is beyond mere politics.....Trump is showing CLEAR signs of INSANITY and DEMENTIA.

It is your duty as a human being to at least pick up a tire iron and March against the white house to remove Trump from office.

As usual you are wrong. It is the duty of Pence and the Administration to implement Sec. 4 of the the 25th Amendment, before Trump protects his job by sending US Troops into harms way and further alienating our allies or one day go to far with his policy of Brinkmanship and find out that kook in N. Korea didn't blink.

If Pence lacks the courage, then Ryan must put forth Articles of Impeachment before the H. or Rep.

When good men don't act, they are not good nor are they patriots..

 

[nat4900]

No compromise with traitors, scumbags and commies. We came perilously close to becoming a communist shithole because we were willing to compromise.

Excellent....I too would NEVER compromise with un-American, republican, cowardly traitors who still back Trump, and are ONLY concerned about getting their fat asses re-elected

 

[Mac1958]

Adults compromise through communication, patience, reason, humility and honesty.

You CANNOT compromise with an insane megalomaniac....in the same way that we could not compromise with a Hitler or a Pol Pot, or.....as we're finding out,a Kim Jung-Un...

Okay, great, got it.
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[nat4900]

When the proverbial shit hits the fan....a lot of these right wing morons will cower and state, "well, I really didn't like Trump all that much BUT I hated Hillary more....."

COWARDS !!!

 

[Mac1958]

You CANNOT compromise with an insane megalomaniac....in the same way that we could not compromise with a Hitler or a Pol Pot, or.....as we're finding out,a Kim Jung-Un...

No compromise with traitors, scumbags and commies. We came perilously close to becoming a communist shithole because we were willing to compromise.

^^^ And here's my point, again, loud & clear.

We have to get past this, and I have no idea how cooler heads are going to prevail.
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[NightFox]

When I look at all Donald's rantings and ravings and then compare them to yours, there's little difference, you're both given to frequent fits of irrationality and public outbursts that would make a victim of Tourette syndrome blush.

MORON......get off that fucking fence........I DO NOT have the power to fuck the entire planet......Your.....(and its is YOUR lack of a spine to stand up to evil)....orange clown does, not me or any other liberal on here.....The off that pot..

Sorry .. can't understand what you're trying to say since my Irrational Ranting and Raving to English translator is in the shop.

BTW would you perhaps like a napkin to wipe all that foam off your mouth?

 

[Mac1958]

Oh, I see plenty of manic, binary thinking from both ends.

"No compromise". There it is. And it just doesn't work in a large, complicated republic.
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How does one compromise with Donald Trump? He even ignores his own appointees when they don't do what he wants them to do.

The President of the United States in 2017 is a megalomaniac (Defined: a person who is obsessed with their own power).

For those who think this post and comment is funny, I suggest they consider his behavior with this definition of a Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

Adults compromise through communication, patience, reason, humility and honesty.

It troubles me that I even have to say that..

Which adult attribute do you consider Trump employees in his day to day tweets?

Couldn't tell you. They're an ongoing source of embarrassment for me.

What I do know, is that the Democrats are going to put out just enough effort to work with him so that they can say they "tried", and not one ounce more.

Because that's what partisan politicians do, on both ends. This is about political advantage, not compromise.

If we can't agree on something obvious and fundamental, there's no reason to continue here.
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If you mean to continue to post on this thread or message board, that's up to you. I make an effort to define my use of words in the context of the moment.

First of all I disagree on the motives you attribute to partisan pols. The first and overriding goal of most pols is to protect their job. That's obvious. Congress critters want the nicer offices and the perks that go along with whatever they are told to do by the leadership of their party.

That said, one must take a stand on fundamental issues and not simply parrot something they've heard or read from a single source, or sources which parrot each other (like members of Congress or members of the executive).

Consider Carried Interest and Trump's promise to drain the swamp, and what's in the tax bill Trump claims will be the biggest tax cut for the middle class, and not benefit him and other 1%ers.

For the record, and what ought to be no surprise to anyone, Trump lied.

That's perfectly reasonable, from your end of the spectrum.
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[nat4900]

Sorry .. can't understand what you're trying to say since my Irrational Ranting and Raving to English translator is in the shop.

BTW would you perhaps like a napkin to wipe all that foam off your mouth?

Not frothing, nitwit.....Just holding up a mirror but you right wing, cult members cannot see what is happening because your heads are right up Trump's fat ass......How is the view there, BTW???

 

[whitehall]

Everybody wants tax reform. Democrats turned it into a political issue because they would rather have the status quo of a Hussein stagnant economy than reform under republican leadership. Democrats thrive during periods of unrest and unemployment and stagnation. They used to call for "occupying Wall Street" when they thought their diminishing core was becoming socialist and now they are doubling down when Americans stand a chance at tax reform and damn the Country.

 

[nat4900]

Everybody wants tax reform. Democrats turned it into a political issue because they would rather have the status quo of a Hussein stagnant economy than reform under republican leadership. Democrats thrive during periods of unrest and unemployment and stagnation. They used to call for "occupying Wall Street" when they thought their diminishing core was becoming socialist and now they are doubling down when Americans stand a chance at tax reform and damn the Country.

MORON.......these tax reforms are a SCAM adding $1.5 TRILLION to the debt (so much for you fuck heads, fiscal responsibility) and the taxes on those making LESS than $75 K WILL go UP......AFTER the midterm elections

Wake the fuck up.....

 

[NightFox]

Sorry .. can't understand what you're trying to say since my Irrational Ranting and Raving to English translator is in the shop.

BTW would you perhaps like a napkin to wipe all that foam off your mouth?

Not frothing, nitwit.....Just holding up a mirror but you right wing, cult members cannot see what is happening because your heads are right up Trump's fat ass......How is the view there, BTW???

Probably the same as the view from this thread, after all, raving lunatic asses all look the same.

 

[Wry Catcher]

That you need to compare a political opponent to mass murdering or tyranical idiots shows you just can't deal with people who disagree with you.

Well, how would you "rate" a fucking clown who is currently in charge, risking a war with NK that would have over a million deaths in just a few hours???..........Or a fucking clown who re-tweets false videos that embolden the crazed, radical Muslims to practice their evil, murderous deeds?

Just like that Sarah Hickabee Sanders (the NEW Baghdad Bob) telling us that even though the videos that Trump re-tweeted my be fake, if Trump does it the act is "just" because he is president.

So we should just let North Korea get nukes?

Don't care about the video, except I like that it makes you idiots froth at the mouth and ignore the other awesome things he is doing like selecting strict constructionists to the courts.
And there are plenty of videos insulting christians out there, don't see them being all "jihad jihad jihad" over it.

Democrats invented fake but accurate, you are just pissed the other side is using it now.

N. Korea has nukes, and just like us N. Korea has an unstable person with his finger on the button. Our unstable person continues to insult the kook who has his finger on the button.

Do you believe this is sane? I don't, and I'm not alone. Trump has created all by himself the current world wide chaos. Denial by Trump supporters has become epidemic, and until they recognize what is happening, they are enabling a megalomaniac with a very big gun.

 

[martybegan]

That you need to compare a political opponent to mass murdering or tyranical idiots shows you just can't deal with people who disagree with you.

Well, how would you "rate" a fucking clown who is currently in charge, risking a war with NK that would have over a million deaths in just a few hours???..........Or a fucking clown who re-tweets false videos that embolden the crazed, radical Muslims to practice their evil, murderous deeds?

Just like that Sarah Hickabee Sanders (the NEW Baghdad Bob) telling us that even though the videos that Trump re-tweeted my be fake, if Trump does it the act is "just" because he is president.

So we should just let North Korea get nukes?

Don't care about the video, except I like that it makes you idiots froth at the mouth and ignore the other awesome things he is doing like selecting strict constructionists to the courts.
And there are plenty of videos insulting christians out there, don't see them being all "jihad jihad jihad" over it.

Democrats invented fake but accurate, you are just pissed the other side is using it now.

N. Korea has nukes, and just like us N. Korea has an unstable person with his finger on the button. Our unstable person continues to insult the kook who has his finger on the button.

Do you believe this is sane? I don't, and I'm not alone. Trump has created all by himself the current world wide chaos. Denial by Trump supporters has become epidemic, and until they recognize what is happening, they are enabling a megalomaniac with a very big gun.

You are seriously trying to Equate Kim Jong Un with Trump? All that shows is that you have lost all bearing on reality.

So sucking Kim Jong Un's dick is better foreign policy?

The more you try to make the current situation into some sort of catastrophe the more idiotic you TDS sufferers look.

Up your zoloft dosage.

 

[Wry Catcher]

How does one compromise with Donald Trump? He even ignores his own appointees when they don't do what he wants them to do.

The President of the United States in 2017 is a megalomaniac (Defined: a person who is obsessed with their own power).

For those who think this post and comment is funny, I suggest they consider his behavior with this definition of a Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

Adults compromise through communication, patience, reason, humility and honesty.

It troubles me that I even have to say that..

Which adult attribute do you consider Trump employees in his day to day tweets?

Couldn't tell you. They're an ongoing source of embarrassment for me.

What I do know, is that the Democrats are going to put out just enough effort to work with him so that they can say they "tried", and not one ounce more.

Because that's what partisan politicians do, on both ends. This is about political advantage, not compromise.

If we can't agree on something obvious and fundamental, there's no reason to continue here.
.

If you mean to continue to post on this thread or message board, that's up to you. I make an effort to define my use of words in the context of the moment.

First of all I disagree on the motives you attribute to partisan pols. The first and overriding goal of most pols is to protect their job. That's obvious. Congress critters want the nicer offices and the perks that go along with whatever they are told to do by the leadership of their party.

That said, one must take a stand on fundamental issues and not simply parrot something they've heard or read from a single source, or sources which parrot each other (like members of Congress or members of the executive).

Consider Carried Interest and Trump's promise to drain the swamp, and what's in the tax bill Trump claims will be the biggest tax cut for the middle class, and not benefit him and other 1%ers.

For the record, and what ought to be no surprise to anyone, Trump lied.

That's perfectly reasonable, from your end of the spectrum.
.

What is my "end of the spectrum"?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That you need to compare a political opponent to mass murdering or tyranical idiots shows you just can't deal with people who disagree with you.

Well, how would you "rate" a fucking clown who is currently in charge, risking a war with NK that would have over a million deaths in just a few hours???..........Or a fucking clown who re-tweets false videos that embolden the crazed, radical Muslims to practice their evil, murderous deeds?

Just like that Sarah Hickabee Sanders (the NEW Baghdad Bob) telling us that even though the videos that Trump re-tweeted my be fake, if Trump does it the act is "just" because he is president.

So we should just let North Korea get nukes?

Don't care about the video, except I like that it makes you idiots froth at the mouth and ignore the other awesome things he is doing like selecting strict constructionists to the courts.
And there are plenty of videos insulting christians out there, don't see them being all "jihad jihad jihad" over it.

Democrats invented fake but accurate, you are just pissed the other side is using it now.

N. Korea has nukes, and just like us N. Korea has an unstable person with his finger on the button. Our unstable person continues to insult the kook who has his finger on the button.

Do you believe this is sane? I don't, and I'm not alone. Trump has created all by himself the current world wide chaos. Denial by Trump supporters has become epidemic, and until they recognize what is happening, they are enabling a megalomaniac with a very big gun.

You are seriously trying to Equate Kim Jong Un with Trump? All that shows is that you have lost all bearing on reality.

So sucking Kim Jong Un's dick is better foreign policy?

The more you try to make the current situation into some sort of catastrophe the more idiotic you TDS sufferers look.

Up your zoloft dosage.

Democrats are justifying their support of North Korea. Better to support North Korea as they send their bombs over than see Trump remain in office.

 

[Wry Catcher]

That you need to compare a political opponent to mass murdering or tyranical idiots shows you just can't deal with people who disagree with you.

Well, how would you "rate" a fucking clown who is currently in charge, risking a war with NK that would have over a million deaths in just a few hours???..........Or a fucking clown who re-tweets false videos that embolden the crazed, radical Muslims to practice their evil, murderous deeds?

Just like that Sarah Hickabee Sanders (the NEW Baghdad Bob) telling us that even though the videos that Trump re-tweeted my be fake, if Trump does it the act is "just" because he is president.

So we should just let North Korea get nukes?

Don't care about the video, except I like that it makes you idiots froth at the mouth and ignore the other awesome things he is doing like selecting strict constructionists to the courts.
And there are plenty of videos insulting christians out there, don't see them being all "jihad jihad jihad" over it.

Democrats invented fake but accurate, you are just pissed the other side is using it now.

N. Korea has nukes, and just like us N. Korea has an unstable person with his finger on the button. Our unstable person continues to insult the kook who has his finger on the button.

Do you believe this is sane? I don't, and I'm not alone. Trump has created all by himself the current world wide chaos. Denial by Trump supporters has become epidemic, and until they recognize what is happening, they are enabling a megalomaniac with a very big gun.

You are seriously trying to Equate Kim Jong Un with Trump? All that shows is that you have lost all bearing on reality.

So sucking Kim Jong Un's dick is better foreign policy?

The more you try to make the current situation into some sort of catastrophe the more idiotic you TDS sufferers look.

Up your zoloft dosage.

Straw Man again Marty? The more you post such comments ( "So sucking Kim Jong Un's dick is better foreign policy?" ) the less respect I have for you, and there was very little left).

 

[Mac1958]

Adults compromise through communication, patience, reason, humility and honesty.

It troubles me that I even have to say that..

Which adult attribute do you consider Trump employees in his day to day tweets?

Couldn't tell you. They're an ongoing source of embarrassment for me.

What I do know, is that the Democrats are going to put out just enough effort to work with him so that they can say they "tried", and not one ounce more.

Because that's what partisan politicians do, on both ends. This is about political advantage, not compromise.

If we can't agree on something obvious and fundamental, there's no reason to continue here.
.

If you mean to continue to post on this thread or message board, that's up to you. I make an effort to define my use of words in the context of the moment.

First of all I disagree on the motives you attribute to partisan pols. The first and overriding goal of most pols is to protect their job. That's obvious. Congress critters want the nicer offices and the perks that go along with whatever they are told to do by the leadership of their party.

That said, one must take a stand on fundamental issues and not simply parrot something they've heard or read from a single source, or sources which parrot each other (like members of Congress or members of the executive).

Consider Carried Interest and Trump's promise to drain the swamp, and what's in the tax bill Trump claims will be the biggest tax cut for the middle class, and not benefit him and other 1%ers.

For the record, and what ought to be no surprise to anyone, Trump lied.

That's perfectly reasonable, from your end of the spectrum.
.

What is my "end of the spectrum"?

Left.
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[Wry Catcher]

That you need to compare a political opponent to mass murdering or tyranical idiots shows you just can't deal with people who disagree with you.

Well, how would you "rate" a fucking clown who is currently in charge, risking a war with NK that would have over a million deaths in just a few hours???..........Or a fucking clown who re-tweets false videos that embolden the crazed, radical Muslims to practice their evil, murderous deeds?

Just like that Sarah Hickabee Sanders (the NEW Baghdad Bob) telling us that even though the videos that Trump re-tweeted my be fake, if Trump does it the act is "just" because he is president.

So we should just let North Korea get nukes?

Don't care about the video, except I like that it makes you idiots froth at the mouth and ignore the other awesome things he is doing like selecting strict constructionists to the courts.
And there are plenty of videos insulting christians out there, don't see them being all "jihad jihad jihad" over it.

Democrats invented fake but accurate, you are just pissed the other side is using it now.

N. Korea has nukes, and just like us N. Korea has an unstable person with his finger on the button. Our unstable person continues to insult the kook who has his finger on the button.

Do you believe this is sane? I don't, and I'm not alone. Trump has created all by himself the current world wide chaos. Denial by Trump supporters has become epidemic, and until they recognize what is happening, they are enabling a megalomaniac with a very big gun.

You are seriously trying to Equate Kim Jong Un with Trump? All that shows is that you have lost all bearing on reality.

So sucking Kim Jong Un's dick is better foreign policy?

The more you try to make the current situation into some sort of catastrophe the more idiotic you TDS sufferers look.

Up your zoloft dosage.

Democrats are justifying their support of North Korea. Better to support North Korea as they send their bombs over than see Trump remain in office.

Trump + tweets x brinkmanship = War is Peace? Nice try.