Why the Democrats Lost

[jillian]

Actually, what really happened was that republicans, more than pushing an agenda, decided to screw up public perception of the government so badly, that there would be a backlash against it to the point where heads would roll.

Republicans then ran on the "small government" platform, banking on the fact that midterm voters are most likely to elect the non-incombent party.

This worked to a tee.

I myself voted mostly republican even though I knew what was up. Why? Because Republicans ran almost exclusively on fiscal issues.

Besides, second term presidents rarely get anything accomplished anyway, due to fierce opposition to their agenda.

which begs the question.... why would you believe them on fiscal matters when they keep breaking the economy (except for the top 1%)

Oye, I'm getting hammered from BOTH sides!

Why do I believe them?

I don't know, why do I love my gf?

I just do.

riiiiiiight... the ole "are you going to believe what you see or what I tell you" thing.

hint: they send the economy into recession whenever they take over.

good luck with that.

Incorrect, me lady; I present for your examination, the 1994 Republican congress who successfully balanced the budget and gave us the Roaring Ninety's.

that was because they worked with the democratic president.

this party of wingnuts isn't doing that.

i'll remind you that bill Clinton came in as a "new democrat" and ran as a moderate... and had moderate economic ideas. in fact, his major missteps were the things he moved too far right on... like NAFTA and DADT.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Actually, what really happened was that republicans, more than pushing an agenda, decided to screw up public perception of the government so badly, that there would be a backlash against it to the point where heads would roll.

Republicans then ran on the "small government" platform, banking on the fact that midterm voters are most likely to elect the non-incombent party.

This worked to a tee.

I myself voted mostly republican even though I knew what was up. Why? Because Republicans ran almost exclusively on fiscal issues.

Besides, second term presidents rarely get anything accomplished anyway, due to fierce opposition to their agenda.

which begs the question.... why would you believe them on fiscal matters when they keep breaking the economy (except for the top 1%)

Oye, I'm getting hammered from BOTH sides!

Why do I believe them?

I don't know, why do I love my gf?

I just do.

riiiiiiight... the ole "are you going to believe what you see or what I tell you" thing.

hint: they send the economy into recession whenever they take over.

good luck with that.

Incorrect, me lady; I present for your examination, the 1994 Republican congress who successfully balanced the budget and gave us the Roaring Ninety's.

that was because they worked with the democratic president.

this party of wingnuts isn't doing that.

i'll remind you that bill Clinton came in as a "new democrat" and ran as a moderate... and had moderate economic ideas. in fact, his major missteps were the things he moved too far right on... like NAFTA and DADT.

Sorry, but Clinton's only real contribution to the Republican driven efforts to balance the budget, involved forcing Republicans to leave social programs alone, even then, he was forced to address welfare reforms.

 

[Contumacious]

The Democratic Party lost the mid-terms because they were "off message" with the voters. As I was watching the returns a news commentator said she had talked to a pollster and they saw a shift in Obama's popularity during late summer, early September. They felt perhaps it was lack of an ISIS policy by President Obama.Wrong answer boys and girls. I can tell you that was not what happened. People do not like politics of negativity such as "war on women", or fear mongering by passing out flyers in Georgia in an effort to inject Ferguson into the electoral process. If anything Ferguson and the Obama administrations reaction to it scared independent White voters in the suburbs. They felt Holder and the administration would rather play racial politics than look rationally at what actually went on during the Ferguson media event. Also, abortion and gay marriage are non-starters for the electorate outside college towns and Hollywood. Voters want to hear a positive message of how YOU are going to help them better themselves economically and maintain their quality of life where they live. ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID! This is why Democrats lost and also why I left them years ago.

democrats lost because

a) the party of the president always loses the midterms during the second term....and

b) turn out is traditionally low for dems during mid-terms... and

c) democrats were wusses and didn't stand up for being democrats... leaving them looking apologetic. and if they couldn't defend their ideas, then no one was going to run out and get enthused about a party that didn't defend itself and thereby allowed the president to suffer....

wusses...

and c is probably the most significant reason.

Again, as a parasite and a moocher, what difference does it make which party dishes out the handouts?


.Parasitism /fascism has won.

Not one Republican took stand pledging to abolish/reduce the welfare/warfare police state?


.

 

[jillian]

which begs the question.... why would you believe them on fiscal matters when they keep breaking the economy (except for the top 1%)

Oye, I'm getting hammered from BOTH sides!

Why do I believe them?

I don't know, why do I love my gf?

I just do.

riiiiiiight... the ole "are you going to believe what you see or what I tell you" thing.

hint: they send the economy into recession whenever they take over.

good luck with that.

Incorrect, me lady; I present for your examination, the 1994 Republican congress who successfully balanced the budget and gave us the Roaring Ninety's.

that was because they worked with the democratic president.

this party of wingnuts isn't doing that.

i'll remind you that bill Clinton came in as a "new democrat" and ran as a moderate... and had moderate economic ideas. in fact, his major missteps were the things he moved too far right on... like NAFTA and DADT.

Sorry, but Clinton's only real contribution to the Republican driven efforts to balance the budget, involved forcing Republicans to leave social programs alone, even then, he was forced to address welfare reforms.

that wouldn't be correct.

he always said he'd address 'welfare reform'... not that it was ever enough for the right.

 

[Bush92]

The Democratic Party lost the mid-terms because they were "off message" with the voters. As I was watching the returns a news commentator said she had talked to a pollster and they saw a shift in Obama's popularity during late summer, early September. They felt perhaps it was lack of an ISIS policy by President Obama.Wrong answer boys and girls. I can tell you that was not what happened. People do not like politics of negativity such as "war on women", or fear mongering by passing out flyers in Georgia in an effort to inject Ferguson into the electoral process. If anything Ferguson and the Obama administrations reaction to it scared independent White voters in the suburbs. They felt Holder and the administration would rather play racial politics than look rationally at what actually went on during the Ferguson media event. Also, abortion and gay marriage are non-starters for the electorate outside college towns and Hollywood. Voters want to hear a positive message of how YOU are going to help them better themselves economically and maintain their quality of life where they live. ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID! This is why Democrats lost and also why I left them years ago.

democrats lost because

a) the party of the president always loses the midterms during the second term....and

b) turn out is traditionally low for dems during mid-terms... and

c) democrats were wusses and didn't stand up for being democrats... leaving them looking apologetic. and if they couldn't defend their ideas, then no one was going to run out and get enthused about a party that didn't defend itself and thereby allowed the president to suffer....

wusses...

and c is probably the most significant reason.

You missed it entirely. People do not like politics that describes everything in terms of race, gender, sexual preference, and uses words like "war", "struggle', and "fight." Sorry, your hate filled message did not play with the vast MAJORITY of Americans.

 

[Ringel05]

You are about to witness the biggest attack on environmental protection in your lifetime. Stand proud you left the party of people, for the party of corporations and polluters.

I don't know about that. Some republicans are staunch supporters of environmental issues.

In Florida, back 94, Republicans helped to outlaw commercial fishing within 100 miles of the state. Very nice move that actually helped the economy.

Good luck with that, Bfgrn is probably one of the most leftist people an the board, nothing gets through unless it's filtered through the DNCs rhetoric filter process.
Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Bfgrn thought Mao was a neo-con.

I am probably the most pragmatic poster on the board. Protecting our environment used to be a non partisan issue. Not anymore. If protecting the environment is now considered extreme, then what is the position of trashing it? Is THAT what being a conservative now means???

What is truly alarming is today's GOP and last centuries Soviet Politburo have the SAME agenda.

Soooo,....... you think I'm only referring to your environmental position......... Yeah right.......
(Hint: Look at your last sentence and tell me honestly whether that's a rational, unbiased statement......... If you say yes, seek immediate psychiatric help........)
Oh and there is bipartisan support for environmental issues, just not the extreme approach or the extreme issues.......

 

[Bush92]

The ultra-liberal slash and burn policies and rhetoric of the Democratic Party does not appeal to mainstream Americans.

 

[Ringel05]

The ultra-liberal slash and burn policies and rhetoric of the Democratic Party does not appeal to mainstream Americans.

Speaking of another who believes his own press...........

 

[Bush92]

The ultra-liberal slash and burn policies and rhetoric of the Democratic Party does not appeal to mainstream Americans.

Speaking of another who believes his own press...........

I'm telling in a practical and down to earth way why the democrats got obliterated on Tuesday.

 

[Ringel05]

The ultra-liberal slash and burn policies and rhetoric of the Democratic Party does not appeal to mainstream Americans.

Speaking of another who believes his own press...........

I'm telling in a practical and down to earth way why the democrats got obliterated on Tuesday.

Okay Rush........

 

[NYcarbineer]

The simple answer to why the dems lost is... "people hate obama and his agenda," period.

The dems lost because of OBAMA.

Not at all. Dems lost because the Republicans pulled off a masterful plan that worked, in most part, due to a manufactured mistrust of government in general.

This will not work the next time around.

Congratulations are in order, though - many dems sat home as usual and gave away this election.

Many Dems in SC turned out to elect the first black Senator from SC since Reconstruction.

He is a REPUBLICAN.

Many Dems? Are you trying to tell us that South Carolina needs a big Democrat crossover to elect a conservative Republican?

When did that start? lol, maybe when the GOP started running a black candidate in that spot?

 

[Lumpy 1]

The simple answer to why the dems lost is... "people hate obama and his agenda," period.

The dems lost because of OBAMA.

The leftist economy, foreign, domestic and social policies were put up for review and the patriotic voters decided the Democratic Party failed them utterly.

LOL .. Democrats need to be more like Republicans ..

 

[Bush92]

The ultra-liberal slash and burn policies and rhetoric of the Democratic Party does not appeal to mainstream Americans.

Speaking of another who believes his own press...........

I'm telling in a practical and down to earth way why the democrats got obliterated on Tuesday.

Okay Rush........

Its that kind of thinking that shows how far left you are when a moderate tries to give a common sense post.

 

[Bush92]

Democrats are and extreme left wing party...and common sense moderates and conservatives rejected them.

 

[007]

The simple answer to why the dems lost is... "people hate obama and his agenda," period.

The dems lost because of OBAMA.

Not at all.

Yes... all.

Dems lost big because of obama, reid and pelosi, ramming the liberal, socialist, welfare, big government agenda down the throats against the will of the vast majority.

It's also because of all the hyperbole and lies the left has been telling for years, like republicans are the party of no, when it's reid that's sitting on 350 some bills, some passed with bipartisan votes, and won't even table them for discussion, and obama that constantly says he won't sign anything the republicans send him, and passing obamacare and then lying about. Remember LIE OF THE YEAR? You can keep your doctor if you like your doctor, period. Sorry, another lie, and now the threat of more illegal abuses of power by obama to give defacto amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Well the vast majority of Americans don't want this. You add it all up, what obama has been doing with the help of ALL democrats, and there you have... WHY THEY LOST. They lost because people saw through the lies, so America REJECTED THEM AND THEIR AGENDA, PERIOD.

BLAME OBAMA, BLAME REID, BLAME PELOSI, BLAME ANY DEMOCRAT THAT VOTED WITH OBAMA THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, and there you have it, WHY THEY LOST.

It's basically got NOTHING to do with the republicans. The democrats HUNG THEMSELVES.

 

[Ringel05]

How about the economy and foreign policy still sucks as the primary reasons for not only voter apathy but also the GOP wins. Pretty simple. The GOP better focus on both in a positive way and not "read in" any other mandate or the next election cycle will probably go back to the DNC.........

 

[Bush92]

How about the economy and foreign policy still sucks as the primary reasons for not only voter apathy but also the GOP wins. Pretty simple. The GOP better focus on both in a positive way and not "read in" any other mandate or the next election cycle will probably go back to the DNC.........

Voter apathy/ so lets say those who did not vote showed up on Tuesday. Trend line with independents shows they would have broke Republican so that would have made Democratic defeat worse.

 

[Lumpy 1]

You are about to witness the biggest attack on environmental protection in your lifetime. Stand proud you left the party of people, for the party of corporations and polluters.

I don't know about that. Some republicans are staunch supporters of environmental issues.

In Florida, back 94, Republicans helped to outlaw commercial fishing within 100 miles of the state. Very nice move that actually helped the economy.

Good luck with that, Bfgrn is probably one of the most leftist people an the board, nothing gets through unless it's filtered through the DNCs rhetoric filter process.
Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Bfgrn thought Mao was a neo-con.

I am probably the most pragmatic poster on the board. Protecting our environment used to be a non partisan issue. Not anymore. If protecting the environment is now considered extreme, then what is the position of trashing it? Is THAT what being a conservative now means???

What is truly alarming is today's GOP and last centuries Soviet Politburo have the SAME agenda.

You should read this over, perhaps your doom and gloom opinions will be introduced to reality.

Where do the Dems and GOP stand on energy and the environment

 

[Ringel05]

How about the economy and foreign policy still sucks as the primary reasons for not only voter apathy but also the GOP wins. Pretty simple. The GOP better focus on both in a positive way and not "read in" any other mandate or the next election cycle will probably go back to the DNC.........

Voter apathy/ so lets say those who did not vote showed up on Tuesday. Trend line with independents shows they would have broke Republican so that would have made Democratic defeat worse.

Yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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[007]

How about the economy and foreign policy still sucks as the primary reasons for not only voter apathy but also the GOP wins. Pretty simple. The GOP better focus on both in a positive way and not "read in" any other mandate or the next election cycle will probably go back to the DNC.........

The 900 lb gorilla in the room mandate is STOP OBAMA. Had the electorate been OK with what obama and his henchmen have been doing, they'd have elected more DEMOCRATS. But that was NOT the case. They elected republicans, and they elected them because they want obama STOPPED. There is no other conclusion to draw.