Why we need the 2nd Amendment

[frigidweirdo]

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Of course not.

However if the Russians, the Chinese or the United Nations ever invades and takes over our nation you use your weapons to engage in asymmetrical warfare.

If our government ever turns into a tyrannical Marxist socialist worker’s paradise like Venezuela or Cuba, you use you weapons to overthrow it.

Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population'

As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment –regarding the country’s earlier gun control bill that saw citizens stripped of their weapons-owning rights.

www.foxnews.com

What do you mean "of course not"?

Probably you mean that it isn't personal, as was stated.

Yes, you can use your weapons to overturn any type of government, not just Marxist. You could use it to overturn the tyrannical current US government (this president, last president, presidents before, doesn't matter who, it's the same).

 

[White 6]

If you haven't noticed yet, most every factory stock AR-15 available still has a bayonet lug under the front sight.

That's also considered "illegal" in some states.

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I had not noticed. I don't think mine does, but of course I built mine from the ground up and do not remember the choice when selecting barrel and upper. Now you got me wanting to look but PJ is asleep back there. There is not good reason to ever mount a bayonet. I have no intention of ever letting anyone approach me in anger to within bayonet range. I still remember the manual of arms of the riot baton, and am pretty sure I wouldn't damage the weapon, so i could still turn out somebody's lights if I felt charitable. If I was actually being attacked, it is unlikely I would be in a charitable mood.

 

[Vrenn]

You run with snobs, not shooters, Scooter.

Are you going to tell me that your toy can shoot with my rifle?

 

[Vrenn]

What do you mean "of course not"?

Probably you mean that it isn't personal, as was stated.

Yes, you can use your weapons to overturn any type of government, not just Marxist. You could use it to overturn the tyrannical current US government (this president, last president, presidents before, doesn't matter who, it's the same).

Or you can use it to support our Democratically elected Government as well. I choose the latter.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Or you can use it to support our Democratically elected Government as well. I choose the latter.

What democratically elected government? I don't see a democratically elected government in the US.

 

[White 6]

Are you going to tell me that your toy can shoot with my rifle?

I am going to tell you the tool I built is better for my actual purposes in having it, but it still requires outdoor range time. I have no idea what purpose you bought yours for.

 

[Vrenn]

What democratically elected government? I don't see a democratically elected government in the US.

I won't allow a domestic terrorist and traitor like you to use my posts. Say goodnight Gracie.

 

[Vrenn]

I am going to tell you the tool I built is better for my actual purposes in having it, but it still requires outdoor range time. I have no idea what purpose you bought yours for.

If you are going to use it for the #1 purpose then you need locked up in a nuthouse and all your guns taken away before you try and go for the new record. The number 1 purpose to use an AR is for mass shootings whether it is civilian or military. Show up at my range and you are going to hear "Well, that's nice" and chortles if that is the only thing you brought. Beware that the other shooter start taking you serious. I live in a Red Flag State.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I won't allow a domestic terrorist and traitor like you to use my posts. Say goodnight Gracie.

What the fuck?

Who the fuck is Gracie and why would I be a "domestic terrorist and traitor" because I understand how the voting system works?

Is ignorance the sign of a true Hermerican?

 

[Batcat]

What do you mean "of course not"?

Probably you mean that it isn't personal, as was stated.

Yes, you can use your weapons to overturn any type of government, not just Marxist. You could use it to overturn the tyrannical current US government (this president, last president, presidents before, doesn't matter who, it's the same).

Joe Biden many be a corrupt politician but he is not a tyrant. Nor was Trump or Obama.

Our current government is not perfect by any means but there is no reason to overthrow it.

Perhaps the reason we don’t live under a truly tyrannical government is we have the Second Amendment and more firearms in our nation than people.

 

[Couchpotato]

That is because they do not know any better. Most people that have not been military in a combat arms branch specialty are clueless about weapons in general, have received little formal training and are actually scared of weapons. Some grew up shooting .22s or hunting with shotguns but still no training on real assault weapons, probably never even seeing one in person on a range.

I dont disagree. That doesnt change the truth about my statement.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Obviously not enough. Fantasies must be fed.

There's nothing fantasy about what's going to happen to Ukraine.

It won't happen here because we still have guns. And that pisses you off doesn't it?

We know exactly why you want our guns gone. That's why we keep
pushing for machine guns and we will get them in 10 years. Bank on it.

 

[TNHarley]

First of all, CCW Holders are not the problem. The Open Carry ones are. You did the right thing.

Second, 2A, the way it's written, no longer makes sense when you factor in the National Firearms Act of 1934.

The act doesnt take precedence over the constitution. Especially one whos only constitutional authority is taxation.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We do not need assault weapons. The semiautomatic AR and AK platforms,...

Psst...
The semiautomatic AR and AK platforms ARE "assault weapons".

I favor mandatory training and permits, off your property or out of your vehicle or boat.

Both are unnecessary and ineffective restriction son the rights of the law abiding.
Never mind the fact the state has no standing to issue, much less require, a permit for the basic exercise of a right.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Note how the protests in Oz have not been put down by an overbearing government overstepping the limits after the citizens supported reducing the level of firearms in society.

Only because Oz isn't run by Democrats.

 

[White 6]

If you are going to use it for the #1 purpose then you need locked up in a nuthouse and all your guns taken away before you try and go for the new record. The number 1 purpose to use an AR is for mass shootings whether it is civilian or military. Show up at my range and you are going to hear "Well, that's nice" and chortles if that is the only thing you brought. Beware that the other shooter start taking you serious. I live in a Red Flag State.

So, you are really and anti gun nut with a toy to show your friends, eh? Totally oblivious to the fact there are are about 20 million of weapons owned by normal Americans, similar to mine, in a country with a population of 331,450,00 people. How many like yours? Yep. Hard to find that number, isn't it? With less than 500 people killed by all rifles combined, in the US last year, (that is counting accidental, on purpose and suicide) that make you sound pretty silly, uninformed and attests the FACT most rifle owner in general, and AR/AK platform rifles (maybe 173 by a Times analysis), and their owners are nowhere near the hazard, you and the other anti-gun nut people would like the public to believe. The math isn't hard to understand unless you are math challenged or a hysterical fool.
"Red Flag" state? Don't make me laugh, pretender. You sure speak poorly for your unnamed "Red Flag" state and the people in it. This is Tennessee. Most of us shooting rifles and shotguns since we were little kids. I often invite people on here to visit Tennessee (you know, Red Flag with 3 stars) and go Tennesseeing, but you need to just stay on the interstate and pass through.

 

[White 6]

I dont disagree. That doesnt change the truth about my statement.

Yes, but the normal people really are not responsible for misperceptions of the few, due to the lack of experience of the anti-gun cause nuts.

Psst...
The semiautomatic AR and AK platforms ARE "assault weapons".

Both are unnecessary and ineffective restriction son the rights of the law abiding.
Never mind the fact the state has no standing to issue, much less require, a permit for the basic exercise of a right.

No. They are not. They just look similar, but without the same function.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No. They are not. They just look similar, but without the same function.

Reference any "assault weapon" law you choose.
All of them refer to semi-automatic rifles.

The term you mean to use is assault rifle, which are select-fire.

 

[Vrenn]

There's nothing fantasy about what's going to happen to Ukraine.

It won't happen here because we still have guns. And that pisses you off doesn't it?

We know exactly why you want our guns gone. That's why we keep
pushing for machine guns and we will get them in 10 years. Bank on it.

 

[Vrenn]

The act doesnt take precedence over the constitution. Especially one whos only constitutional authority is taxation.

Machine Guns in the Civilian World needed to be curtailed. There were a lot of innocents that died due to spray and pray shooting of a thompson.