Zone1 Why whites have more wealth than blacks.

[sealybobo]

You can get rich starting out at $15/hr.

No wonder UAW workers are striking

As of Oct 22, 2023, the average hourly pay for the Uaw jobs category in Michigan is $15.28 an hour. While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $21.61 and as low as $7.64, the majority of salaries within the Uaw jobs category currently range between $14.86 (25th percentile) to $18.32 (75th percentile) in Michigan.

Smartest guys I ever knew worked for the Big 3

Starting wages for new Stellantis hires will rise 67% including cost-of-living adjustments to over $30 per hour. Temporary workers will get raises of more than 165%, while workers at parts centers will get an immediate 76% increase if the contract is ratified.

$30 is a lot better than $15. Wink

 

[kaz]

What race is he, I can't tell.

sealybobo is a white boy, that's why he's so racist

 

[Concerned American]

Here is how lots of white folks gained their generational wealth and lots of black folks never had a chance to pass down their generational wealth....


"Luke McElroy, a Black farmer who owned 155 acres of land in Cherokee County, Alabama, was shot to death in 1949 by a neighboring white farmer over a property dispute. In Amite County, Mississippi, Reverend Isaac Simmons, also a Black farmer, was lynched by six white men in 1944 when he refused to give up his farmland to the men, who thought it might have valuable oil deposits. The men then brutally beat Reverend Simmons’s son and ran him out of the county. The stories of these men and many others in the Burnham-Nobles Archive of racially motivated killings of Black people in the Jim Crow South highlight the violent theft of Black farmland, often to the benefit of white farmers."

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/wealth-disparities-in-civil-rights/the-contemporary-relevance-of-historic-black-land-loss/#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20theft%20by,farm%20owners%3B%20through%20forced%20partition

Multiply those stories by 100,000 and you will see how that can definitely put a dent in what generational wealth black and native american families could pass down to their offspring -- and it definitely boosts the generational wealth others are able to pass down thru land theft via outright murder that was blessed by the state.....This doesn't mean those who inherited this are wrong, but to pretend they didn't benefit from that racist system is stupid....it would be like running a 100 yd dash and bragging about winning because you started at the 70 yd line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there has never been an instance when the exact opposite has happened? Bullshit. How about Reginald Denney, multiple victims of BLM violence around the country, Jussie Smollet. I am not discounting the injustices that have been suffered by anyone. It has nothing to do with race--it has everything to do with a bunch of uncivilized morons who carry out these crimes. When you try to frame it as "Oh poor me, I'm being picked on because I'm black," you are gaslighting.

 

[sealybobo]

WMD were a small part of why we invaded Iraq. The biggest things were Saddam constantly violating the terms of the cease-fire, attacking our aircraft that were enforcing the "no-fly zone" that was protecting the Kurds from Saddam's attempt at genocide.

You will never sell us on that revisionist history. I know that's the GOP argument for why we invaded Iraq but it's all a lie. And believe Bush and Chaney? Two RINO's? Globalists? Aren't you a Trump supporter now?



Ask Brits. They know Tony Blair lied them into Iraq. Only you don't know it. And even Trump knows it. Said it at a debate when he ran the first time and that's how he got nominated instead of Jeb. Everyone knows it dude.

in South Carolina, debate moderator John Dickerson asked Trump about an October 2008 interview in which Trump said it would have been a “wonderful thing” if Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi tried to impeach Bush because he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Asked if he still believes that Bush should have been impeached, Trump called the Iraq war a “big fat mistake.” Pressed again for an answer, Trump went on to say, “They lied.”

Trump, Feb. 13: You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

 

[Woodznutz]

No wonder UAW workers are striking

As of Oct 22, 2023, the average hourly pay for the Uaw jobs category in Michigan is $15.28 an hour. While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $21.61 and as low as $7.64, the majority of salaries within the Uaw jobs category currently range between $14.86 (25th percentile) to $18.32 (75th percentile) in Michigan.

Smartest guys I ever knew worked for the Big 3

Starting wages for new Stellantis hires will rise 67% including cost-of-living adjustments to over $30 per hour. Temporary workers will get raises of more than 165%, while workers at parts centers will get an immediate 76% increase if the contract is ratified.

$30 is a lot better than $15. Wink

Who's going to pay someone just out of high school, with no skills, $30/hr.? Whereas there are all sorts of jobs for those at $15/hr.

 

[Concerned American]

WMD were a small part of why we invaded Iraq. The biggest things were Saddam constantly violating the terms of the cease-fire and attacking our aircraft that were enforcing the "no-fly zone" that was protecting the Kurds from Saddam's attempt at genocide.

It had a lot to do with W saying "He threatened my daddy" as well.

 

[kaz]

The American economy isn't made up of auto workers.

Auto workers are way overpaid, that's why they need unions

 

[sealybobo]

sealybobo is a white boy, that's why he's so racist

It shouldn't matter. Right is right. What if I was a German in 1945 who said it was wrong what Hitler was doing to the Jews? Do I have to be Jewish to know right from wrong?

I believe paying women and blacks fairly helps us all. Consider this. If I were a corporation who only hired whites, I might consider hiring blacks knowing blacks make 75 cents to the dollar you make. So if we pay blacks the same, they won't have the benefit of undercutting me. And then truly the best will win the job.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Black people wreak havoc and terrorize the American public TODAY and everyday and then beg for free shit for shit that happened to their ancestors decades ago.
I think today’s blacks should pay reparations to today’s legit Americans. Doesn’t that make more sense?

Decades ago?

Ma' friend, the last slave was freed in like 1864. We're talking shit that happened over a CENTURY AND A HALF ago.

 

[sealybobo]

The American economy isn't made up of auto workers.

These guys bring everyone's wages up. Corporations are watching and hoping the auto workers lose. If they win they have to pay more. It's coming. Not everyone has to unionize. But back when America was great, 35% of the workforce was unionized. I always thought I was exaggerating when I said today only 9% of us are in unions. It turns out the number is more like only 6% of us.

From 1978 to now union membership dropped to 6%. How has labor faired since they lost their seat at the table?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No it doesn't

Most people who have become millionaires in the past generation did so without inheriting anything.

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The proportion of people in the 1% who were born in the 1% is 20 times what it would be in a healthy society. That absurd bias brings into question the merit of the rest, since their class-climbing is controlled by such a lopsided concentration of heiristocrats.

 

[AMart]

 

[kaz]

It shouldn't matter. Right is right. What if I was a German in 1945 who said it was wrong what Hitler was doing to the Jews? Do I have to be Jewish to know right from wrong?

I believe paying women and blacks fairly helps us all. Consider this. If I were a corporation who only hired whites, I might consider hiring blacks knowing blacks make 75 cents to the dollar you make. So if we pay blacks the same, they won't have the benefit of undercutting me. And then truly the best will win the job.

What ARE you prattling on about, white boy?

 

[Flash]

I have a similar outcome. I entered the Marine Corps on my seventeenth birthday--a high school drop out. By all rights, I should have ended up cannon fodder in Vietnam. I answered a call during qualifications testing in boot camp and as a result spent four years as a journalist (one year in Vietnam escorting civilian news crews). I got my education from the same uncle you did. Over fifty years later, with hard work and austerity by both my spouse and me, we are enjoying a great retirement with the grandkids and our kids following much the same path.

The thing is that Blacks had the same opportunity as you and other people that came from non wealth backgrounds.

A few of them did OK but most squandered the opportunity.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Decades ago?

Ma' friend, the last slave was freed in like 1864. We're talking shit that happened over a CENTURY AND A HALF ago.

I was trying to be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt by taking it back to the civil rights era.

 

[Woodznutz]

These guys bring everyone's wages up. Corporations are watching and hoping the auto workers lose. If they win they have to pay more. It's coming. Not everyone has to unionize. But back when America was great, 35% of the workforce was unionized. I always thought I was exaggerating when I said today only 9% of us are in unions. It turns out the number is more like only 6% of us.

From 1978 to now union membership dropped to 6%. How has labor faired since they lost their seat at the table?

The union was good to me, when I was in it.

Any increased labor costs are passed on to the consumer. What the auto companies fear is those increases in car prices will affect sales. High end vehicle sales are already slowing.

 

[Concerned American]

The union was good to me, when I was in it.

I was in four different unions over my career. I have no use for any of them. Organized crime.

 

[kaz]

These guys bring everyone's wages up. Corporations are watching and hoping the auto workers lose. If they win they have to pay more. It's coming. Not everyone has to unionize. But back when America was great, 35% of the workforce was unionized. I always thought I was exaggerating when I said today only 9% of us are in unions. It turns out the number is more like only 6% of us.

From 1978 to now union membership dropped to 6%. How has labor faired since they lost their seat at the table?

A conservative asks what you're worth and gives it to you.

A leftist asks what you need, then they give it to you until they don't need your vote anymore and then crush you like everyone else.

World history is scattered with the remains of leftists who voted themselves money then were killed when their opposition was gone. 100 million killed. Leftists are major stupid, you vote for your own demise, and get it

 

[Flash]

He was right. The Blacks and Browns in this country come close to being functionally illiterate when they finish High Schools. Whereas the Whites and Asians are much better educated and employable.

The same goes for college. A Black can graduated from college but because of dirversity goals and affirmative action promotions not be educated.

I saw that with Black Scientists and Engineers at the Aerospace company where I worked. To the point I just wouldn't even hire a Black in my division.

 

[Woodznutz]

He was right. The Blacks and Browns in this country come close to being functionally illiterate when they finish High Schools. Whereas the Whites and Asians are much better educated and employable.

The same goes for college. A Black can graduated from college but because of dirversity goals and affirmative action promotions not be educated.

I saw that with Black Scientists and Engineers at the Aerospace company where I worked. To the point I just wouldn't even hire a Black in my division.

Shhhhh! We don't talk about this.