Will Liz Cheney become the first woman president?

[Lakhota]

She has no natural constituency. Most of the POT hates her for calling out Trump as a traitor and a danger to democracy. Dem's don't agree with her on policy matters. She couldn't get re-elected in WY for her House seat. She's a pariah to both sides.

As I have stated previously: "Liz Cheney may be the salvation of the traditional Republican Party." The current Republican Party is a long, long way from traditional.

 

[Lakhota]

Any Trump cultist scum who do in fact act to aid Trump or act to bring about the “termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution” will be mercilessly crushed.

The MAGA cultists who give lip service to Trump’s madness will be politically defeated in the next period, whether they are still in and dominating the Republican Party, or are driven out, or leave sabotaging it.

Only after the craziest are crushed can the “normal” craziness of American two-party capitalist politics be re-established. That may take awhile. The alternative to Trump madness in the next period is unclear and not likely to be especially pleasant. But “Trump crazy” and the Trump cultists must be politically buried.

Amen! Thank you!

 

[Polishprince]

As I have stated previously: "Liz Cheney may be the salvation of the traditional Republican Party." The current Republican Party is a long, long way from traditional.

Liz Cheney is a sure loser, if she is nominated. How does that "save" the Republican Party at all? Unless, your idea of the GOP is a permanent 2nd place party.

 

[jackflash]

Would you vote for Liz Cheney in the General Election? Seriously?

If you agreed with her support of Sleepy Joe, why wouldn't you just vote for Biden himself?

Look @ the options available; Kamale Tamale, Nancy Peelosi or Hillary Clintoon. They are ALL available "IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT"!

 

[Foolardi]

She certainly has all the right stuff. Although I don't agree with most of her conservative ideology, I can envision her becoming a traditional Republican president. She is sane, smart and tough. What do you think?

What new drugs have you been treated tr for.Watch and wait as
Dizzy Liz starts putting on the pounds.She all by her lonesome
decided to trade away { Like a grade schooler with baseball cards }
her entire driven career as a Politician.To not just be a never Trumper.
But THE never Trumper of all Never Trumpers.Because she read
the tea leaves all wrong.As a firm Bushie like her old man Dick
they wanted,demanded payback for how Donald Trump managed to
eliminate Jeb Bush in 2015 with such ease.Because even Morning Joe
Scarborough was the first to mention the name of Jeb early on
as a great choice for President.This was before the field of 17 Presidential
Candidates made they way in early 2015.Jeb was a good Governor of
Florida but nothing to write home about.
That was the basis for Dizzy Liz to go where she went.As a true
Bushie she had to be the Bush Family enforcer and make Trump
look as bad as humanly possible.But it cost her a virtual career.
She became so belligerently obsessed she had no choice but to
Lie.And Lie Big.Big and Bigger if it works for the Democrats.
WRONG.So watch how Dizzy Liz stacks on the pounds and
becomes the new Miss Piggie.I mean,what else she gonna do.
Run for D.C. Jailer.

 

[frigidweirdo]

She certainly has all the right stuff. Although I don't agree with most of her conservative ideology, I can envision her becoming a traditional Republican president. She is sane, smart and tough. What do you think?

I think she's burned too many bridges with parts of the party that she might need. Though being anti-Trump might get her to win the Presidential election, it won't win her the primaries in the first place.

 

[Foolardi]

I don't agree with all of her political views. But, imo, she's one of the most outstanding women in politics. I would vote for her. I also think she has a quality that is incredibly rare in our politics: integrity.

Like it or not, she has the guts to say what she thinks and to stand up and take the heat from her detractors.

Liz Cheney is twice the man Donnie Trump could ever be. Bet she would NEVER whine and moan and act like a fucking crybaby, as donnie-boy does on a daily basis.

The GOP should embrace Liz Cheney, not ostracize her.

Lord knows the GOP now has far too many conspiracy crackpots in their ranks - such as MT Greene.

How much more removed from reality could you be.This Cheney
is simply putz a Political opportunist.The Obvious proof is her
Residence in Wyoming.Barely stays in the state that she represents.
Real brave.However the people of Wyoming weren't scuttlebutted.
Rumor having it that Liz is Presidential material.
Yeah like Dick Cheney coulda been a choirboy for the
Vienna Choir if only he could dispense with his near 10 gallon
Stenson cowboy hat.

 

[Lesh]

Liz Cheney is a sure loser, if she is nominated. How does that "save" the Republican Party at all? Unless, your idea of the GOP is a permanent 2nd place party.

I’m good with that

 

[Foolardi]

I think she's burned too many bridges with parts of the party that she might need. Though being anti-Trump might get her to win the Presidential election, it won't win her the primaries in the first place.

The getting fatter by the week Dizzy Liz can't even get support
in Wyoming,which the Cheney's owned not too long ago.
What are you Thinking.

 

[Polishprince]

I’m good with that

I'm sure you are. But it really defeats the purpose of having elections or voting at all, if the results are already pre-determined. And it certainly defeats the purpose of contributing five cents or 5 seconds of time to a political party with no chance of influencing public policy.

 

[Dayton3]

Republicans (and to an extent Democrats) are extremely reluctant to support one of their own who criticizes a key member of their own party.

 

[Lesh]

I'm sure you are. But it really defeats the purpose of having elections or voting at all, if the results are already pre-determined. And it certainly defeats the purpose of contributing five cents or 5 seconds of time to a political party with no chance of influencing public policy.

Who said anything about “predetermined”?

Republicans need to change their program if they want to stay relevant. If not?

Too bad.

 

[Polishprince]

Who said anything about “predetermined”?

Republicans need to change their program if they want to stay relevant. If not?

Too bad.

Its predetermined if you nominate someone like Liz Cheney who is a supporter of Sleepy Joe, the standard bearer on the other side.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The Republicans — unfortunately imo — do not need to dramatically “change their program” to stay relevant. They just need to dump Trump and change their tone. A “Trumpism w/o Trump” candidate like DeSantis could do well in ‘24, depending on the economy and how the dangerous international situation develops, and on who he runs against.

After all, demagogery has proved it can work to win elections for the party, and not just during Trump’s presidency.

I would like to see centrist or moderate Republicans emerge again and change some of their party’s policies, and become more rational and amenable to compromise — for example on immigration. This would force the Dems to act more responsibly as well. But the fact is overall the moderate wing of the Republican Party is weaker even than its neo-con warmongering wing, or its evangelical one.

The Republicans can do themselves a big favor by changing over to a “ranked choice” primary system for choosing their candidates. If they did this (very unlikely I fear) they might even save themselves, and end up with much higher-quality candidates.

How far the once great party of Lincoln has fallen …

 

[frigidweirdo]

The getting fatter by the week Dizzy Liz can't even get support
in Wyoming,which the Cheney's owned not too long ago.
What are you Thinking.

There we go, a person talking politics like a 6 year old kid.

GROW THE FUCK UP.

 

[Lesh]

Its predetermined if you nominate someone like Liz Cheney who is a supporter of Sleepy Joe, the standard bearer on the other side.

Newsflash. She’s no supporter of Biden.

She’s a supporter of democracy and the Constitution

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Newsflash. She’s no supporter of Biden.

She’s a supporter of democracy and the Constitution

You call using your political position to get even with a personal foe is democracy and constitutional? Is that what you think our founders envisioned?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Republicans — unfortunately imo — do not need to dramatically “change their program” to stay relevant. They just need to dump Trump and change their tone. A “Trumpism w/o Trump” candidate like DeSantis could do well in ‘24, depending on the economy and how the dangerous international situation develops, and on who he runs against.

After all, demagogery has proved it can work to win elections for the party, and not just during Trump’s presidency.

I would like to see centrist or moderate Republicans emerge again and change some of their party’s policies, and become more rational and amenable to compromise — for example on immigration. This would force the Dems to act more responsibly as well. But the fact is overall the moderate wing of the Republican Party is weaker even than its neo-con warmongering wing, or its evangelical one.

The Republicans can do themselves a big favor by changing over to a “ranked choice” primary system for choosing their candidates. If they did this (very unlikely I fear) they might even save themselves, and end up with much higher-quality candidates.

How far the once great party of Lincoln has fallen …

How do you negotiate with people that utterly hate you, and refuse to make any compromises whatsoever? I mean, the Palestinians feel that the only way to peace is to kill off all the Jews. So what's the negotiating point of that, the Jewish to allow half of them to be killed?

The Democrat party went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, now from progressive to socialist Democrat, whatever the hell that is. So tell us, what is the "moderate" position between constitutionalism and Communism?

And what is a moderate Republican anyway? We call them RINO's.

 

[easyt65]

Cheney could not even win her own state, who fired her for her fanatical obsession with Trump.

Democrats on the J6 Committee blamed her for the majority of the focus of the final report was on Trump, which is funny considering the whole reason for the J6 Committee was THEIR continued crusade to try to 'Get Trump'.

They welcomed her onto the committ then tried to blame her for the focus of the entire committee being Trump.


1st female President?

 

[Lakhota]

Liz Cheney can't win anything until if/when the Republican Party becomes normal and sane once again.