bendog
Diamond Member
I'm saying that his vote to convict prevents Trump from being able to say "total vindication." It may be that Romney really believes that a president who uses his office's powers to attempt to further his own political career is unfit to serve, and that justifies a vote to convict.Or he had the stones to vote to convict because what Trump did was wrong - and other republicans agree on that - and he didn't want Trump to claim "I was totally vindicated."You might kind of have a point.
We are ONLY in this mess because in 2012, Mitt Romney was so afraid that Trump running a third party effort that he embraced the man's Birther conspiracy theories instead of doing the stand up thing and denouncing them as the racism they were.
In short, he elevated this toad and now we are all paying for it.
I do find it hilarious that the guy ALL of you insisted would make a great president in 2012 - ignoring the fact he belonged to a cult and made his money fucking over working folks - is now persona non-grata because he opposed Trump by half measures.
Rarely do I see somebody commit suicide by doofus but you are an exception. Romney has many admirable qualities that would never be accepted on the left. He's straight, he believes in monogamy and he believes in hard work. All of those come together to create a fragrant blossom of vampiric garlic repellent to liberals.
Romney was the one that raised an eyebrow at Russia long before the left did. Obama-wan-kenobe scoffed at such things so his adoring throngs followed suit and mocked Romney just before they turned around a few years later and embraced his ideas wholesale.
Unfortunately Romney's hunger for recognition is so overpowering that it outshines his business acumen and common sense. He looks more or less like a political Oliver Twist standing in front of the altar of national adoration with a request:
"Please sir I want some more"... And has signaled quite definitively that his values are up for sale in return some of that "more"...
That is why he has fallen into ridicule and that is why he is no longer offered respect in conservative circles. He has no moral anka and his hunger for recognition is almost completely transparent to the casual observer.
Jo
So, what you are saying is that even though Romney voted against witnesses because there wasn't enough evidence to justify witnesses, his vote to convict without enough evidence is the Highly Moral thing to do.
I don't think the witnesses could really add any facts. We know Trump "did it." I'm sorry the House and Senate just didn't censure Trump, because the Senate ended up is a rather vague place. I mean we all know Clinton perjured himself over a bj. We just differ on whether that is anything to even impeach a potus over. I thought it was absurd because it had nothing to do with Clinton and his oath of office. But Trump is still denying the facts of what he did. Mitt has the stones to say "oh no … you violated your oath of office."
B'loney. The majority voted not guilty and Chief Justice Roberts certified that he was acquitted.
More than 50 senators are on record that what Trump did was wrong. But mitt was the only goper who voted to remove him from office.
More information isn't going to change any minds.