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[ChrisL]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

End of story? Don't think so. Why don't you tell us what these "varying reasons" are and how they are NOT related to control.

 

[ChrisL]

Let's look at another scenario. A woman is at a club, a man approaches her, and she denies him. He gets angry. He's like, "that fucking stuck up bitch, I'm going to make her pay." Do you consider THIS an example of a rape due to a "sexual attraction?"

Normal men and women want to be with someone who desires them. Forcing yourself upon a person is completely ABNORMAL. Men, think about how you would feel if you were going to make love to a woman, and she was screaming and crying and telling you to stop. Do you see how sick a man would have to be in order to do this to a woman? In order for that to be a "turn on" and not a "turn off?"

Yes, even if alleged sexual attraction is involved, the act of rape is STILL all about control and cruelty and humiliation. It is NOT about the sexual attraction; it is about mental illness.

 

[ChrisL]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Yes, that is grooming and child sexual abuse and nothing more.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm actually kind of surprised that rape is so common, with all the STDs around?? You would think some of these guys would be concerned, but I guess the urge to rape overcomes that concern, or they're just retarded which is also likely to be the case.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

End of story? Don't think so. Why don't you tell us what these "varying reasons" are and how they are NOT related to control.

Have you ever heard the term "raging hormones" ? Do you think a 19 year old male at a party filled with female peers, is walking around the room thinking about ways he can get violent and show the females who is boss ?

I would say that in a situation like this, the male is most likely focusing on having sex, and that sex would be the motivating factor if he got out of control.

You are free to continue your one size fits all narrative, but then again you're not a male so you really cannot relate anyway.

 

[ChrisL]

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

End of story? Don't think so. Why don't you tell us what these "varying reasons" are and how they are NOT related to control.

Have you ever heard the term "raging hormones" ? Do you think a 19 year old male at a party filled with female peers, is walking around the room thinking about ways he can get violent and show the females who is boss ?

I would say that in a situation like this, the male is most likely focusing on having sex, and that sex would be the motivating factor if he got out of control.

You are free to continue your one size fits all narrative, but then again you're not a male so you really cannot relate anyway.

No. That is NOT sex. Rape is NOT sex. AND you still haven't explained how this situation is NOT related to controlling another person. That is exactly what it is, whether you want to admit it or not. It has more to do with control than it does sex. Obviously!!!

Otherwise, he would go see a hooker or find a girl who was a willing participant!

 

[ChrisL]

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

End of story? Don't think so. Why don't you tell us what these "varying reasons" are and how they are NOT related to control.

Have you ever heard the term "raging hormones" ? Do you think a 19 year old male at a party filled with female peers, is walking around the room thinking about ways he can get violent and show the females who is boss ?

I would say that in a situation like this, the male is most likely focusing on having sex, and that sex would be the motivating factor if he got out of control.

You are free to continue your one size fits all narrative, but then again you're not a male so you really cannot relate anyway.

Are you trying to convince us that rape is normal for men and is just a "sexual attraction" issue? Instead of "courting" her or being kind to her to try to get her like him, raping her is a logical step? No, these men are mentally and socially deficient.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

It's useless to argue with you and others here of the same ilk.

I have stated over and over that the ROOT cause of rape can have varying reasons, you and others want to always return to the power trip angle.

I'm bowing out of this colossal waste of my time.

 

[ChrisL]

It's useless to argue with you and others here of the same ilk.

I have stated over and over that the ROOT cause of rape can have varying reasons, you and others want to always return to the power trip angle.

I'm bowing out of this colossal waste of my time.

Yeah, because you're WRONG.

 

[ChrisL]

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

End of story? Don't think so. Why don't you tell us what these "varying reasons" are and how they are NOT related to control.

Have you ever heard the term "raging hormones" ? Do you think a 19 year old male at a party filled with female peers, is walking around the room thinking about ways he can get violent and show the females who is boss ?

I would say that in a situation like this, the male is most likely focusing on having sex, and that sex would be the motivating factor if he got out of control.

You are free to continue your one size fits all narrative, but then again you're not a male so you really cannot relate anyway.

Are you aware of the fact that sometimes women are raped with objects rather than with the man's penis. Sometimes both. Do you think that is about sex and desire? Or humiliation and violation?

This ruins women's entire LIVES. They can not only suffer physical damage that is irreparable but also mental damage.

Also, a lot of times they will call the woman names, strike her, punch her, etc.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

You mean the scientifically established facts that our police, courts, and mental health experts rely on? Actual credible studies widely trusted? You call that "feminist tunnel vision narrative"? You don't sound kooky at all!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Probably also believes a woman's body shuts down during rape to prevent pregnancy.

 

[Ravi]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

You mean the scientifically established facts that our police, courts, and mental health experts rely on? Actual credible studies widely trusted? You call that "feminist tunnel vision narrative"? You don't sound kooky at all!

Kooky or not, he kind of sounds like he doesn't much like women.

 

[ChrisL]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

You mean the scientifically established facts that our police, courts, and mental health experts rely on? Actual credible studies widely trusted? You call that "feminist tunnel vision narrative"? You don't sound kooky at all!

Kooky or not, he kind of sounds like he doesn't much like women.

I find a lot of conservative men (especially the so-called "religious" ones) do not really like women who do not act like children. They want a woman to be barefoot in the kitchen and having babies. Any woman who does not follow that narrative is a "feminazi." Lol.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

You mean the scientifically established facts that our police, courts, and mental health experts rely on? Actual credible studies widely trusted? You call that "feminist tunnel vision narrative"? You don't sound kooky at all!

Kooky or not, he kind of sounds like he doesn't much like women.

He doesn't like feminism and neither do I, but that doesn't mean I will ascribe scientific knowledge based on long term studies to some widespread feminist conspiracy. What we know is based on decades of studying rape cases, both victims and offenders. That doesn't just get brushed aside as a left wing agenda.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

You mean the scientifically established facts that our police, courts, and mental health experts rely on? Actual credible studies widely trusted? You call that "feminist tunnel vision narrative"? You don't sound kooky at all!

Kooky or not, he kind of sounds like he doesn't much like women.

I find a lot of conservative men (especially the so-called "religious" ones) do not really like women who do not act like children. They want a woman to be barefoot in the kitchen and having babies. Any woman who does not follow that narrative is a "feminazi." Lol.

I'm like a Ferengi male....I don't even want my wife to wear clothes. It's a good thing we got a clothing optional home.

 

[Asclepias]

Open your minds. One size does not fit all.


Multiple Perspectives on Rape: A Theoretical Paper

19THE STUDY OF RAPE
Bourke, J. (2009).
Rape: Sex violence history
. Berkeley: Counterpoint.Brownmiller, S. (1975). Against our will: Men, women and rape. New York: Ballantine Books.Burt, M. R. (1980). Cultural myths and supports for rape.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
,
33
, 217-230.Buss, D. M. (1989). Conflict between the sexes: Strategic interference and the evocation of anger and upset.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 56
, 737-747.Buss, D. M. (1998). Sexual strategies theory: Historical origins and current status.
The Journal of Sex Research
,
35
(1), 19-31.Card, C. (1996). Rape as a weapon of war.
Hypatia
,
11
, 5-18.
Carroll, M. H., & Clark, M. D. (2006). Men’s acquaintance rape scripts: A comparison between
a regional university and a military academy.
Sex Roles
,
55
, 469-480.Frazier, P., Valtinson, G., & Candell, S. Evaluation of a coeducational interactive rape prevention program.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
73
(2), 153-158.Gergen, K. J. (1999).
An invitation to social construction.
London: Sage.Gidycz, C. A., Layman, M. J., Rich, C. L., Crothers, M., Gylys, J., Matorin, A., & Jacobs, C. D.(2001). An evaluation of an acquaintance rape prevention program: Impact on attitudes,sexual aggression, and sexual victimization.
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
,
16
(11),1120
–
1138.Harrison, P. F., Downes, J., & Williams, M. D. (1991). Date and acquaintance rape: Perceptionsand attitude change strategies.
Journal of College Student Development
,
32
, 131-139.Holcomb, D., Holcomb, L., Sondag, A., & Williams, N. (1991). Attitudes about date rape :Gender differences among college students.
College Student Journal
,
25
, 434-440.Jackman, M. R. (2001). License to kill: Violence and legitimacy in expropriative social relations.

20THE STUDY OF RAPE
In J. T. Jost & B. Major (Eds.),
The psychology of legitimacy: Emerging perspectives onideology, justice, and intergroup
relations
(pp. 437-467). New York: CambridgeUniversity Press.Koss, M. P., Gidycz, C. A., & Wisniewski, N. (1987).
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology
,
55
(2), 162-170.Lanier, C. A., & Elliott, M. N. (1997). A new instrument for the evaluation of a date rape prevention program.
Journal of College Student Development
,
38
(6), 673-676.Malamuth, N. M., Sockloskie, R., Koss, M. P., & Tanaka, J. (1991). The characteristics of aggressors against women: Testing a model using a national sample of college students.
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 52
, 670
–
681.Milillo, D. (2006). Rape as a tactic of war: Social and psychological perspectives.
Journal of Women and Social Work
,
21
(2), 196-205.Rose, S.,
& Frieze, I. H. (1989). Young singles’ scripts for a first date.
Gender & Society
,
3
(2),258-268.Ryan, K. M. (1988). Rape and seduction scripts.
Psychology of Women Quarterly, 12
, 237-245.Ryan, K. M. (2011). The relationship between rape myths and sexual scripts: The socialconstruction of rape.
Sex Roles
,
65
, 774-782.Sapp, M., Farrell, W. C. Jr., Johnson, J. H. Jr., & Hitchcock, K. (1999). Attitudes toward rapeamong African American male and female college students.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
77
(2), 204-208.Schank, R. C., & Abelson, R. P. (1977). Scripts, plans, goals, and understanding. Hillsdale:Lawrence Erlbaum.Shotland, R. L., Goodstein, L. (1992). Sexual precedence reduces the perceived legitimacy of

21THE STUDY OF RAPE
sexual refusal: An examination of attributions concerning date rape and consensual sex.
Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin
,
18
, 756-764.Sidanius, J.,&Pratto, F. (1999).
Social dominance: An intergroup theory of social hierarchy and oppression
. New York: Cambridge University Press.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1984). Sexual scripts. Society, 22, 53
–
60.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1986). Sexual scripts: Permanence and change.
Archives of Sexual Behavior
,
15
, 97
–
120.Tajfel, H.,&Turner, J. C. (1986). The social identity theory of intergroup behavior. InS.Worchel&W. G. Austin (Eds.),
Psychology of intergroup relations
(pp. 7-24). Chicago: Nelson-Hall.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990a). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape
: I. The effects of victim’s age and marital status.
Ethology and Sociobiology, 11
, 155-176.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990b). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape: II. The effects of stranger, friend, and family-member offenders.
Ethology and Sociobiology
,
11
, 177-193.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990c). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape. III: Effects of force and violence.
Aggressive Behavior
,
16
, 297-320.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1991). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing human (homo sapiens) rape: IV. The effect of the nature of the sexual assault.
Journal of Comparative
Psychology,
105
(3), 243-252.Trivers, R. (1972). Parental investment and sexual selection. In B. Campbell (Ed.), Sexualselection and the descent of man, 1871
–
1971 (pp. 136
–
179). Chicago: Aldine.

And again you fail to see it all comes back to power and control.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Open your minds. One size does not fit all.


Multiple Perspectives on Rape: A Theoretical Paper

19THE STUDY OF RAPE
Bourke, J. (2009).
Rape: Sex violence history
. Berkeley: Counterpoint.Brownmiller, S. (1975). Against our will: Men, women and rape. New York: Ballantine Books.Burt, M. R. (1980). Cultural myths and supports for rape.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
,
33
, 217-230.Buss, D. M. (1989). Conflict between the sexes: Strategic interference and the evocation of anger and upset.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 56
, 737-747.Buss, D. M. (1998). Sexual strategies theory: Historical origins and current status.
The Journal of Sex Research
,
35
(1), 19-31.Card, C. (1996). Rape as a weapon of war.
Hypatia
,
11
, 5-18.
Carroll, M. H., & Clark, M. D. (2006). Men’s acquaintance rape scripts: A comparison between
a regional university and a military academy.
Sex Roles
,
55
, 469-480.Frazier, P., Valtinson, G., & Candell, S. Evaluation of a coeducational interactive rape prevention program.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
73
(2), 153-158.Gergen, K. J. (1999).
An invitation to social construction.
London: Sage.Gidycz, C. A., Layman, M. J., Rich, C. L., Crothers, M., Gylys, J., Matorin, A., & Jacobs, C. D.(2001). An evaluation of an acquaintance rape prevention program: Impact on attitudes,sexual aggression, and sexual victimization.
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
,
16
(11),1120
–
1138.Harrison, P. F., Downes, J., & Williams, M. D. (1991). Date and acquaintance rape: Perceptionsand attitude change strategies.
Journal of College Student Development
,
32
, 131-139.Holcomb, D., Holcomb, L., Sondag, A., & Williams, N. (1991). Attitudes about date rape :Gender differences among college students.
College Student Journal
,
25
, 434-440.Jackman, M. R. (2001). License to kill: Violence and legitimacy in expropriative social relations.

20THE STUDY OF RAPE
In J. T. Jost & B. Major (Eds.),
The psychology of legitimacy: Emerging perspectives onideology, justice, and intergroup
relations
(pp. 437-467). New York: CambridgeUniversity Press.Koss, M. P., Gidycz, C. A., & Wisniewski, N. (1987).
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology
,
55
(2), 162-170.Lanier, C. A., & Elliott, M. N. (1997). A new instrument for the evaluation of a date rape prevention program.
Journal of College Student Development
,
38
(6), 673-676.Malamuth, N. M., Sockloskie, R., Koss, M. P., & Tanaka, J. (1991). The characteristics of aggressors against women: Testing a model using a national sample of college students.
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 52
, 670
–
681.Milillo, D. (2006). Rape as a tactic of war: Social and psychological perspectives.
Journal of Women and Social Work
,
21
(2), 196-205.Rose, S.,
& Frieze, I. H. (1989). Young singles’ scripts for a first date.
Gender & Society
,
3
(2),258-268.Ryan, K. M. (1988). Rape and seduction scripts.
Psychology of Women Quarterly, 12
, 237-245.Ryan, K. M. (2011). The relationship between rape myths and sexual scripts: The socialconstruction of rape.
Sex Roles
,
65
, 774-782.Sapp, M., Farrell, W. C. Jr., Johnson, J. H. Jr., & Hitchcock, K. (1999). Attitudes toward rapeamong African American male and female college students.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
77
(2), 204-208.Schank, R. C., & Abelson, R. P. (1977). Scripts, plans, goals, and understanding. Hillsdale:Lawrence Erlbaum.Shotland, R. L., Goodstein, L. (1992). Sexual precedence reduces the perceived legitimacy of

21THE STUDY OF RAPE
sexual refusal: An examination of attributions concerning date rape and consensual sex.
Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin
,
18
, 756-764.Sidanius, J.,&Pratto, F. (1999).
Social dominance: An intergroup theory of social hierarchy and oppression
. New York: Cambridge University Press.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1984). Sexual scripts. Society, 22, 53
–
60.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1986). Sexual scripts: Permanence and change.
Archives of Sexual Behavior
,
15
, 97
–
120.Tajfel, H.,&Turner, J. C. (1986). The social identity theory of intergroup behavior. InS.Worchel&W. G. Austin (Eds.),
Psychology of intergroup relations
(pp. 7-24). Chicago: Nelson-Hall.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990a). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape
: I. The effects of victim’s age and marital status.
Ethology and Sociobiology, 11
, 155-176.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990b). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape: II. The effects of stranger, friend, and family-member offenders.
Ethology and Sociobiology
,
11
, 177-193.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990c). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape. III: Effects of force and violence.
Aggressive Behavior
,
16
, 297-320.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1991). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing human (homo sapiens) rape: IV. The effect of the nature of the sexual assault.
Journal of Comparative
Psychology,
105
(3), 243-252.Trivers, R. (1972). Parental investment and sexual selection. In B. Campbell (Ed.), Sexualselection and the descent of man, 1871
–
1971 (pp. 136
–
179). Chicago: Aldine.

And again you fail to see it all comes back to power and control.

You actually sound like a sensible person on this thread. Uncanny!

 

[Asclepias]

The Myth that Rape is About Power

September 3, 2014 by Nathaniel

Myth: Rape is caused by lust or uncontrollable sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification.
Fact: Rape is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual gratification.
(Counseling Center at Roger Williams University)

The idea that rape is about power, and not about sex, is one of those facts that everyone knows. Sort of like everyone knows that humans only use 10% of their brain capacity. In other words: it’s totally and completely wrong but people keep saying it anyway.

The urban legend about folks using only 10% of their brain may be annoying1, but as a general rule it doesn’t get anyone hurt. Misdiagnosing the cause of rape can lead to bad policies, confusion, and more rape, however. It’s not just an annoyance. It’s serious and worth getting right. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, politics gets in the way.

The original source of the idea that sexual assault is about violence and power instead of sex or lust doesn’t come from a scientist or an academic study.2 It comes from a feminist writer named Susan Brownmiller who invented the theory pretty much from scratch for her 1975 bookAgainst Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

According to Brownmiller, rape is “a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” There is some validity to the idea that the consequence of widespread rape and sexual assault is a ubiquitous power imbalance between men and women in society, and that in that sense even men who never sexually assault women might be said to benefit from rape, but the contention that men consciously engage in rape for the purpose of control (to the exclusion of sexual gratification) never made much sense at all.

In a sane world, Brownmiller’s theory would have been very short lived. This is because an actual scientist stepped in with a direct rebuttal just four years later, in 1979. The book was called The Evolution of Human Sexuality and it was written by the anthropologist Donald Symons. It is no coincidence that Symons wrote from a scientific rather than a political perspective, and his book was widely heralded by some of the greatest social scientists of the 20th century, including Richard Posner, Paul R. Ehrlich, and Steven Pinker.3Symons’ thesis was very simple and aligned with common sense: he saw rape as being primarily about the satisfaction of sexual lust.4 In particular, he used evidence to document that:

Victims, as a class, were most likely to be young physically attractive women (as opposed to older, more successful career women). On the other hand, convicted rapists were disproportionately young disadvantaged men whose low social status made them undesirable as dating partners, or husbands. (Summary from Psychology Today)

The nature of sex and sexual violence in society has changed significantly since the 1970s, but continuing research cements Symons’ central claim that rape is a way for men to get access to sex that they can’t get in other ways.

For example, I recently came across another stark confirmation of this in the paperDecriminalizing Indoor Prostitution: Implications for Sexual Violence and Public Health. In it, researchers Scott Cunningham and Manisha Shah found a simple and direct correlation between legalized prostitution and rape in Rhode Island. The state unintentionally legalized prostitution in 2003 an then recriminalized it in 2009.5 After prostitution was legalized, the sex market increased in size and rape (overall, across the entire state) declined by 31%. When prostitution was criminalized again in 2009, the incidence of rape went back up. As Jason Kerwin summarizes:

The Myth that Rape is About Power

Rape in the LDS church. This is your source?
A group that believes in plural marriage an children becoming brides?

and you want to be taken seriously?

Just pointing out sweetie that not everyone subscribes to your feminist tunnel vision narrative on the causes of rape.

Wow, and you picked LDS as the quintessential example???

Sorry, I have to go change my pants from laughing so hard.

What next, Islam? Please don't quote the Ayatollah, I know most of it by heart already.
You can throw the little green book down the sewer where it belongs.

Rape: power, anger, and sexuality. - PubMed - NCBI
Types of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of Rape Myths
Rape: Power, anger and sexuality
http://www.middlebury.edu/media/view/240951/original/PredatoryNature.pdf

Should I go on?

Shot for shot, point for point. You really want to try to excuse rape and make excuses for the rapist?


Chum or puree? Your call

I'm not making any excuses for any rapist, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. I simply do not subscribe to your myopic views of the reasons rape occurs.
I think there are varying reasons, you don't, you're locked into your narrative.
End of story.

I dont understand why you think there cant be one reason. There is one reason we breath. There is one reason why we go through the freeze, flee, fight response. I could go on and on but I would like to hear why you are insistent there are other equal causes for rape other than exercise of power.

 

[Asclepias]

Open your minds. One size does not fit all.


Multiple Perspectives on Rape: A Theoretical Paper

19THE STUDY OF RAPE
Bourke, J. (2009).
Rape: Sex violence history
. Berkeley: Counterpoint.Brownmiller, S. (1975). Against our will: Men, women and rape. New York: Ballantine Books.Burt, M. R. (1980). Cultural myths and supports for rape.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology
,
33
, 217-230.Buss, D. M. (1989). Conflict between the sexes: Strategic interference and the evocation of anger and upset.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 56
, 737-747.Buss, D. M. (1998). Sexual strategies theory: Historical origins and current status.
The Journal of Sex Research
,
35
(1), 19-31.Card, C. (1996). Rape as a weapon of war.
Hypatia
,
11
, 5-18.
Carroll, M. H., & Clark, M. D. (2006). Men’s acquaintance rape scripts: A comparison between
a regional university and a military academy.
Sex Roles
,
55
, 469-480.Frazier, P., Valtinson, G., & Candell, S. Evaluation of a coeducational interactive rape prevention program.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
73
(2), 153-158.Gergen, K. J. (1999).
An invitation to social construction.
London: Sage.Gidycz, C. A., Layman, M. J., Rich, C. L., Crothers, M., Gylys, J., Matorin, A., & Jacobs, C. D.(2001). An evaluation of an acquaintance rape prevention program: Impact on attitudes,sexual aggression, and sexual victimization.
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
,
16
(11),1120
–
1138.Harrison, P. F., Downes, J., & Williams, M. D. (1991). Date and acquaintance rape: Perceptionsand attitude change strategies.
Journal of College Student Development
,
32
, 131-139.Holcomb, D., Holcomb, L., Sondag, A., & Williams, N. (1991). Attitudes about date rape :Gender differences among college students.
College Student Journal
,
25
, 434-440.Jackman, M. R. (2001). License to kill: Violence and legitimacy in expropriative social relations.

20THE STUDY OF RAPE
In J. T. Jost & B. Major (Eds.),
The psychology of legitimacy: Emerging perspectives onideology, justice, and intergroup
relations
(pp. 437-467). New York: CambridgeUniversity Press.Koss, M. P., Gidycz, C. A., & Wisniewski, N. (1987).
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology
,
55
(2), 162-170.Lanier, C. A., & Elliott, M. N. (1997). A new instrument for the evaluation of a date rape prevention program.
Journal of College Student Development
,
38
(6), 673-676.Malamuth, N. M., Sockloskie, R., Koss, M. P., & Tanaka, J. (1991). The characteristics of aggressors against women: Testing a model using a national sample of college students.
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 52
, 670
–
681.Milillo, D. (2006). Rape as a tactic of war: Social and psychological perspectives.
Journal of Women and Social Work
,
21
(2), 196-205.Rose, S.,
& Frieze, I. H. (1989). Young singles’ scripts for a first date.
Gender & Society
,
3
(2),258-268.Ryan, K. M. (1988). Rape and seduction scripts.
Psychology of Women Quarterly, 12
, 237-245.Ryan, K. M. (2011). The relationship between rape myths and sexual scripts: The socialconstruction of rape.
Sex Roles
,
65
, 774-782.Sapp, M., Farrell, W. C. Jr., Johnson, J. H. Jr., & Hitchcock, K. (1999). Attitudes toward rapeamong African American male and female college students.
Journal of Counseling and Development
,
77
(2), 204-208.Schank, R. C., & Abelson, R. P. (1977). Scripts, plans, goals, and understanding. Hillsdale:Lawrence Erlbaum.Shotland, R. L., Goodstein, L. (1992). Sexual precedence reduces the perceived legitimacy of

21THE STUDY OF RAPE
sexual refusal: An examination of attributions concerning date rape and consensual sex.
Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin
,
18
, 756-764.Sidanius, J.,&Pratto, F. (1999).
Social dominance: An intergroup theory of social hierarchy and oppression
. New York: Cambridge University Press.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1984). Sexual scripts. Society, 22, 53
–
60.Simon, W., & Gagnon, J. J. (1986). Sexual scripts: Permanence and change.
Archives of Sexual Behavior
,
15
, 97
–
120.Tajfel, H.,&Turner, J. C. (1986). The social identity theory of intergroup behavior. InS.Worchel&W. G. Austin (Eds.),
Psychology of intergroup relations
(pp. 7-24). Chicago: Nelson-Hall.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990a). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape
: I. The effects of victim’s age and marital status.
Ethology and Sociobiology, 11
, 155-176.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990b). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape: II. The effects of stranger, friend, and family-member offenders.
Ethology and Sociobiology
,
11
, 177-193.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1990c). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing rape. III: Effects of force and violence.
Aggressive Behavior
,
16
, 297-320.Thornhill, N. W., & Thornhill, R. (1991). An evolutionary analysis of psychological painfollowing human (homo sapiens) rape: IV. The effect of the nature of the sexual assault.
Journal of Comparative
Psychology,
105
(3), 243-252.Trivers, R. (1972). Parental investment and sexual selection. In B. Campbell (Ed.), Sexualselection and the descent of man, 1871
–
1971 (pp. 136
–
179). Chicago: Aldine.

And again you fail to see it all comes back to power and control.

You actually sound like a sensible person on this thread. Uncanny!

I always sound sensible. You just get silly and disagree with me on other issues.