Would you favor Trump dismissing all Dept. of Education Employees, effectively shutting it down?

[Flopper]

Would you miss it?

What is the constitutional basis for the DoE?

Yes. Public education as it is is a joke. China, India and Pakistan have more genus children then America has kids. Maybe not get rid of the DOE, but definitely purge it right down to the janitors.

Public education is run at the local level, so if you have a problem with that.....that is where you should start.

China, India, and Pakistan have more genus children PER CAPITA than the US? The US has has 326M people. China, India have 2.53B with Pakistan having 197M.

The Department of Education has been in existence since 1953 with their efforts focusing on: Student Loans, Grants, Laws, and Data. It also goes after fraud in education such as tRump University.

as for trump U that was the prosecutors that went after him not the dept of ed,,,

and as we have seen education in this country has declined since the 60's so thats proof enough to show it doesnt work,,,

and the locals have very little control of what they can or cant do,,,

and of course there is the constitution that doesnt allow fed input,,,

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

 

[OnePercenter]

Yes. Public education as it is is a joke. China, India and Pakistan have more genus children then America has kids. Maybe not get rid of the DOE, but definitely purge it right down to the janitors.

Public education is run at the local level, so if you have a problem with that.....that is where you should start.

China, India, and Pakistan have more genus children PER CAPITA than the US? The US has has 326M people. China, India have 2.53B with Pakistan having 197M.

The Department of Education has been in existence since 1953 with their efforts focusing on: Student Loans, Grants, Laws, and Data. It also goes after fraud in education such as tRump University.

as for trump U that was the prosecutors that went after him not the dept of ed,,,

and as we have seen education in this country has declined since the 60's so thats proof enough to show it doesnt work,,,

and the locals have very little control of what they can or cant do,,,

and of course there is the constitution that doesnt allow fed input,,,

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

 

[Muhammed]

Every state already has a DoE. There is no need for a federal DoE.

It's simply another authoritarian Democrat make-work program to make people dependent on the federal government to make a living.

 

[progressive hunter]

Public education is run at the local level, so if you have a problem with that.....that is where you should start.

China, India, and Pakistan have more genus children PER CAPITA than the US? The US has has 326M people. China, India have 2.53B with Pakistan having 197M.

The Department of Education has been in existence since 1953 with their efforts focusing on: Student Loans, Grants, Laws, and Data. It also goes after fraud in education such as tRump University.

as for trump U that was the prosecutors that went after him not the dept of ed,,,

and as we have seen education in this country has declined since the 60's so thats proof enough to show it doesnt work,,,

and the locals have very little control of what they can or cant do,,,

and of course there is the constitution that doesnt allow fed input,,,

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

but they already pay more than us,,,and that has nothing to do with the fact the dept of ed is a failure and unconstitutional

 

[progressive hunter]

Yes. Public education as it is is a joke. China, India and Pakistan have more genus children then America has kids. Maybe not get rid of the DOE, but definitely purge it right down to the janitors.

Public education is run at the local level, so if you have a problem with that.....that is where you should start.

China, India, and Pakistan have more genus children PER CAPITA than the US? The US has has 326M people. China, India have 2.53B with Pakistan having 197M.

The Department of Education has been in existence since 1953 with their efforts focusing on: Student Loans, Grants, Laws, and Data. It also goes after fraud in education such as tRump University.

as for trump U that was the prosecutors that went after him not the dept of ed,,,

and as we have seen education in this country has declined since the 60's so thats proof enough to show it doesnt work,,,

and the locals have very little control of what they can or cant do,,,

and of course there is the constitution that doesnt allow fed input,,,

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

opinions vary,,,if they did that I might vote for them,,,

 

[OnePercenter]

as for trump U that was the prosecutors that went after him not the dept of ed,,,

and as we have seen education in this country has declined since the 60's so thats proof enough to show it doesnt work,,,

and the locals have very little control of what they can or cant do,,,

and of course there is the constitution that doesnt allow fed input,,,

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

but they already pay more than us,,,and that has nothing to do with the fact the dept of ed is a failure and unconstitutional

No, "they" pay 1.5% of all the money they make, and you pay 12% to 15% of all the money you make.

 

[progressive hunter]

The primary controls on local school boards is the state not the federal goverment. 92% of the funds to run schools comes from either local or state tax payers with only 8% from the federal government. Most of that 8% goes to states to support various grants and programs which the state distributes to the schools.

So in what circumstances does the federal department of education interact with public schools? In short very little. There primary role in regard to K-12 is assisting the state DOEs in setting standards, collecting and distributing national education data, enforcing civil rights laws in education, provides partial support for pre-school education, and providing competitive grants directly to schools.

If we abolished the department education there would be a huge impact on universities and community colleges as well about 1/3 of the college students who receive some form of financial aid. The huge college loan portfolio would still managed by the federal government, and all state DOE would increase in size and responsibility.

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

but they already pay more than us,,,and that has nothing to do with the fact the dept of ed is a failure and unconstitutional

No, "they" pay 1.5% of all the money they make, and you pay 12% to 15% of all the money you make.

the corp. tax rate is far higher than 1.5%,,,nice try though,,,

and that is irrelevant to the topic,,,,the dept of ed is unconstitutional and need abolished,,,,

 

[Norman]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

 

[NoVote]

So, you can stop the worthless scare tactics that if we promote trades and low debt, well-paying jobs, we are somehow going to run out of doctors and engineers and scientists and architects.

As far back as the late 70's, I worked as a Union Laborer in the DC construction laborers union. One of the few whites in the Union was a Doctor, an MD, that found he could make more money working construction. Pay was only $9.51 an hour then, but you get the idea. Having a degree does not mean money rolling in.

 

[Flopper]

Every state already has a DoE. There is no need for a federal DoE.

It's simply another authoritarian Democrat make-work program to make people dependent on the federal government to make a living.

Five thing would happen if we did away with the federal DOE.

• The largest voucher program in the country would be abolished.
• State spending on education would increase in every state because the number going to state subsidize schools would see a large increase due to a lack of federal subside grants and loans. Enrollment in private schools would see sharp decreases in enrollment. Many federal programs would have to be duplicated in every state.
• There would no one to manage the 1 trillion dollar plus federal loan portfolio.
• Federal developed standards would be replaced with state standard creating major problems in transferring credits out of state and getting acceptance in out of state schools.
• Finally, there would no national report card on education much to the joy state politicians since there would be no way to compare different states educational performance nor comparing national progress.

 

[progressive hunter]

Every state already has a DoE. There is no need for a federal DoE.

It's simply another authoritarian Democrat make-work program to make people dependent on the federal government to make a living.

Five thing would happen if we did away with the federal DOE.

• The largest voucher program in the country would be abolished.
• State spending on education would increase in every state because the number going to state subsidize schools would see a large increase due to a lack of federal subside grants and loans.
• There would no one to manage the 1 trillion dollar plus federal loan portfolio.
• Federal developed standards would be replaced state standard creating major problems in transferring getting acceptance in out of state schools.
• Finally, there would no national report card on education much to joy state politicians since there would way to compare different states educational performance nor comparing national progress.

thank you for pointing out the things we need to get ready for while we wait for it to be abolished,,,,

always listen to an expert tell you why it cant be done,,,then go ahead and do it,,,

 

[OnePercenter]

well the fact that it exist and tax money is being used,,,, ,,,,

The Department of Education is administered by the United States Secretary of Education. It has under 4,000 employees (2018) and an annual budget of $68 billion (2016).
United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

United States Department of Education - Wikipedia

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

but they already pay more than us,,,and that has nothing to do with the fact the dept of ed is a failure and unconstitutional

No, "they" pay 1.5% of all the money they make, and you pay 12% to 15% of all the money you make.

the corp. tax rate is far higher than 1.5%,,,nice try though,,,

and that is irrelevant to the topic,,,,the dept of ed is unconstitutional and need abolished,,,,

The corporate tax rate is much higher, but corporations only pay 1.5% of all the money they make. YOU pay much more.

The Department of Education is not not unconstitutional. tRump wants paybacks for getting nailed for operating a school that was a fraud.

 

[progressive hunter]

Congress can easily cut their budget in half by elimination financial aid to college student. However supporters of that bill would find themselves looking for job after the next election.

If corporations paid the same percentage of tax as you we could balance the budget.

but they already pay more than us,,,and that has nothing to do with the fact the dept of ed is a failure and unconstitutional

No, "they" pay 1.5% of all the money they make, and you pay 12% to 15% of all the money you make.

the corp. tax rate is far higher than 1.5%,,,nice try though,,,

and that is irrelevant to the topic,,,,the dept of ed is unconstitutional and need abolished,,,,

The corporate tax rate is much higher, but corporations only pay 1.5% of all the money they make. YOU pay much more.

The Department of Education is not not unconstitutional. tRump wants paybacks for getting nailed for operating a school that was a fraud.

would love to see proof of that,,,and besides anytime the feds get less money and the people keep more is a good thing and I applaud it

and also where in the constitution does it give the feds authority in education,,,


OH and you have no idea what I pay,,,

 

[OnePercenter]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

 

[Norman]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

Department of education has nothing to do with education?

/Thread.

We need the money to address the actual cause of the dumming down of the population - the 80 IQ migrants invading our country. Build the wall.

 

[progressive hunter]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

you just made the case for abolishing the dept of ed, because none of that is a constitutional authority,,,

 

[Flopper]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

you just made the case for abolishing the dept of ed, because none of that is a constitutional authority,,,

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

The authority of congress to create a dept of education is an implied power not an an explicit power. Implied powers have been used to create a huge part of the government, the entire federal social welfare system, the president's cabinet, agencies such as the IRS, and establishment of the power of the Supreme Court to Overrule Congress and judicial review.

The key piece in the clause is the reference to the "general Welfare" being the justification necessitating the laying of taxes in the first place. The cause of general welfare for the population at large is advanced by educating the populace and preparing them for productive involvement in society upon graduation from school. This sentiment is mentioned specifically in the 1979 bill establishing the department.

The argument for constitutional authority to create the Dept of Education goes something like this.

1. Congress has the right to promote the general welfare
   
   
2. Congress can fund that effort through the laying of taxes
   
   
3. Effective education of the population promotes individual welfare and is a boon to the economy at large
   
   
4. Effective education of the population is best managed by a centralized department.

Therefore, Congress can create a Department of Education. Since it's created by implied power. Congress can remove the department at anytime. However at the same time it must also either repeal or provide for the functions of the department. In other words, congress would have to decide how the following functions of the department would be handled:
College Financial Aid
Management of the federal college loan portfolio
Pre-K funding
Educational Research
Educational Data Collection and comparisons between states
Enforcement and arbitration of civil rights issues in K-12 schools
Educational Vouchers
Nationwide competitive grants
National Report
Standardization of curriculum between states

How was the US able to create a Department of Education at the Federal level?

 

[progressive hunter]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

you just made the case for abolishing the dept of ed, because none of that is a constitutional authority,,,

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

The authority of congress to create a dept of education is an implied power not an an explicit power. Implied powers have been used to create a huge part of the government, the entire federal social welfare system, the president's cabinet, agencies such as the IRS, and establishment of the power of the Supreme Court to Overrule Congress and judicial review.

The key piece in the clause is the reference to the "general Welfare" being the justification necessitating the laying of taxes in the first place. The cause of general welfare for the population at large is advanced by educating the populace and preparing them for productive involvement in society upon graduation from school. This sentiment is mentioned specifically in the 1979 bill establishing the department.

The argument for constitutional authority to create the Dept of Education goes something like this.

1. Congress has the right to promote the general welfare
   
   
2. Congress can fund that effort through the laying of taxes
   
   
3. Effective education of the population promotes individual welfare and is a boon to the economy at large
   
   
4. Effective education of the population is best managed by a centralized department.

Therefore, Congress can create a Department of Education. Since it's created by implied power. Congress can remove the department at anytime. However at the same time it must also either repeal or provide for the functions of the department. In other words, congress would have to decide how the following functions of the department would be handled:
College Financial Aid
Management of the federal college loan portfolio
Pre-K funding
Educational Research
Educational Data Collection and comparisons between states
Enforcement and arbitration of civil rights issues in K-12 schools
Educational Vouchers
Nationwide competitive grants
National Report
Standardization of curriculum between states

How was the US able to create a Department of Education at the Federal level?

sorry but promote only means they can encourage it not provide it,,,,ie,,unconstitutional,,,

and since it has been a complete failure I dont see how it benefits the general welfare and in fact has caused the opposite of welfare benefit,,,not to mention it has become an indoctrination factory of socialist ideology which is in opposition to our constitution

shut it down while we still have a chance,,,

 

[Stormy Daniels]

What is the constitutional basis for the DoE?

[H]e may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices.

Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 2, paragraph 1.

 

[Flopper]

Can someone name what in the fuck has this agency actually achieved? More drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history.

And it's most likely not an accident, they have entirely different motives to educating children.

States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

The Department of Education doesn't run schools, they administrate Student loans, Pell Grants, Drafting laws (such as forbidding fraudulent schools like tRump University), and compiling statistics which are not favorable to red State schools, for instance, some of the lowest high school graduation rates in the US are; Mississippi, Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia, and Alaska.

Again, for the dumber people than ever, States and locals run schools, so if you have a problem with "more drop outs, dumber people than ever, some of the worst life decisions in history" you need to address those concerns to the States.

you just made the case for abolishing the dept of ed, because none of that is a constitutional authority,,,

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

The authority of congress to create a dept of education is an implied power not an an explicit power. Implied powers have been used to create a huge part of the government, the entire federal social welfare system, the president's cabinet, agencies such as the IRS, and establishment of the power of the Supreme Court to Overrule Congress and judicial review.

The key piece in the clause is the reference to the "general Welfare" being the justification necessitating the laying of taxes in the first place. The cause of general welfare for the population at large is advanced by educating the populace and preparing them for productive involvement in society upon graduation from school. This sentiment is mentioned specifically in the 1979 bill establishing the department.

The argument for constitutional authority to create the Dept of Education goes something like this.

1. Congress has the right to promote the general welfare
   
   
2. Congress can fund that effort through the laying of taxes
   
   
3. Effective education of the population promotes individual welfare and is a boon to the economy at large
   
   
4. Effective education of the population is best managed by a centralized department.

Therefore, Congress can create a Department of Education. Since it's created by implied power. Congress can remove the department at anytime. However at the same time it must also either repeal or provide for the functions of the department. In other words, congress would have to decide how the following functions of the department would be handled:
College Financial Aid
Management of the federal college loan portfolio
Pre-K funding
Educational Research
Educational Data Collection and comparisons between states
Enforcement and arbitration of civil rights issues in K-12 schools
Educational Vouchers
Nationwide competitive grants
National Report
Standardization of curriculum between states

How was the US able to create a Department of Education at the Federal level?

sorry but promote only means they can encourage it not provide it,,,,ie,,unconstitutional,,,

and since it has been a complete failure I don't see how it benefits the general welfare and in fact has caused the opposite of welfare benefit,,,not to mention it has become an indoctrination factory of socialist ideology which is in opposition to our constitution

shut it down while we still have a chance,,,

The constitution uses the word "provide" in the clause, not promote. The success of educational programs sponsored by the DOE is a matter of opinion. However, what is not opinion is the millions of low income students that have been able to go to college due to federal financial aid.

The need for some form of central management of education is quite clear when you look at the best performing nations in education. They all have strong centralized control of finances and curriculum.