Yepp, Trump is still a birther!!

[Syriusly]

List of Redfish’s Birther lies, speculations and innuendo

1) “Bill Clinton says Obama’s not American”

Of course there is no record of Bill Clinton saying that- there is only the uncorroborated statement on the record by one woman that Bill Clinton told her that he knew Obama was not eligible. (and that McCain was not eligible)

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie


2) “Romney released his[college records] voluntarily”

Romney never released his college records, and Birthers never asked for them.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

3) “Obama spent millions

“Perkins Cole of Seattle were paid to defend suits requesting release of his records in several states….they were paid over a million dollars to keep you and me from seeing his college records”

Investigated- and mostly false- as in there is no record that Obama’s campaign ever spent a million dollars defending against any Birther claims.

No President Obama Hasn t Spent Millions To Keep His Birth Certificate Private

So that leaves the funds paid to Perkins Coie. Trump’s and Palin’s claims assume that the vast majority of the money paid to Perkins Coie since the election was used to defend against lawsuits challenging Obama’s citizenship. We agree that some amount of money was spent in legal fees related to those lawsuits — the letter from Bauer to the plaintiff is an example of that. But, while we don’t know exactly how much the Obama camp spent on their private lawyers, there were many, many non-birth-certificate duties that a law firm typically handles in the wake of a presidential campaign, which suggests that any birth certificate work was a small percentage of the overall fees paid to Perkins Coie.

In addition- there were only 3 lawsuits that Obama was a defendant- and Perkins Cole didn’t represent Obama in most(all?) of the cases- and all were quickly dismissed.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Speculation

4) “nothing I have said is untrue”

LOL see above and below


5) “just pointing out the truth, carbon head. Hillary started it.”

There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton ever was involved with the Birther movement in any fashion or form. Some of her supporters- the so-called Puma’s were. The earliest recorded mention of the Birther claims was March 2008 on the rightwing blog- FreeRepublic

Barackryphal The Secret Origin of the Birthers

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

6) actually he was a black arab, you can look it up.

Why this is important to anyone other than a racist I don’t know, but it is a claim that we have seen from racists around 2008.

Well I did ‘look it up’- not a single credible reference- and I mean I won’t take Rush Limbaugh’s claim as a source- says that Obama is ‘arab’.

Status of Redfish’s claims: Lie

7) Do you find it funny that his grandmother died shortly after his visit to her in Hawaii?

As pointed out- Obama’s grandmother was elderly and ill- and Obama rushed to see her because of her poor health.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Innuendo

8) He either was a foreign student or commited fraud to get the money. which is it?

There is no evidence that shows that Barack Obama was ever a foreign student- or committed fraud to get any money. Just Redfish lying again

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

Nice try, but I have to give you an F. You have disproven nothing.

Then where are Romney's college records that he 'voluntarily released'?

And of course, what is your evidence that Obama was

but lets just go with your number 8 for a minute. Harvard and Columbia are very expensive colleges. Obama claims that he was a poor halfbreed from Hawaii via Indonesia and that he never had any money. So you tell us, how did he pay the tuition, room, and board at those very expensive schools?


I have no idea. Scholarships from the school,. scholarships from private sources, affirmative action, student loans, his grandparents, friends of the family, a litany of possible ways.

You however have claimed that Obama was either born in Kenya or lied to the college.

Prove it.

You obviously can't. Making your dichotomy a lie. As it wasn't ONLY one or the other. It could have been a variety of different reasons. And you don't know which it was.

As to proving it, his college records would prove it one way or the other. If those records would make all of the "birthers" look like idiots, do you really think he would not have released them to gain the political points?.

You are under the assumption that anyone cares about the wildass claims you make.

If President Obama spent his time disproving all of the lies his enemies were spreading about him to be false, he would not have time to personally be setting up the FEMA camps that will eventually house you all, after Obama proclaims himself Emperor......

 

[RKMBrown]

My issue is with his political views.. you folks are too focused on skin color. Why do you measure a man by his skin color?

No one cares about your opposition to his political views.

Now what does Obama's political views have to do with your obsession about his college records.

Obsession? Nonsense.

I'd like to know if he was entered into Harvard as a Foreign Exchange student.

And?

And also whether there is any truth to the story about Obama getting into Harvard with bad grades through influence from a Foreign benefactor who is a Saudi prince.

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

 

[Syriusly]

List of Redfish’s Birther lies, speculations and innuendo

1) “Bill Clinton says Obama’s not American”

Of course there is no record of Bill Clinton saying that- there is only the uncorroborated statement on the record by one woman that Bill Clinton told her that he knew Obama was not eligible. (and that McCain was not eligible)

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie



“Romney released his[college records] voluntarily”

Romney never released his college records, and Birthers never asked for them.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

“Obama spent millions

“Perkins Cole of Seattle were paid to defend suits requesting release of his records in several states….they were paid over a million dollars to keep you and me from seeing his college records”

Investigated- and mostly false- as in there is no record that Obama’s campaign ever spent a million dollars defending against any Birther claims.

No President Obama Hasn t Spent Millions To Keep His Birth Certificate Private

So that leaves the funds paid to Perkins Coie. Trump’s and Palin’s claims assume that the vast majority of the money paid to Perkins Coie since the election was used to defend against lawsuits challenging Obama’s citizenship. We agree that some amount of money was spent in legal fees related to those lawsuits — the letter from Bauer to the plaintiff is an example of that. But, while we don’t know exactly how much the Obama camp spent on their private lawyers, there were many, many non-birth-certificate duties that a law firm typically handles in the wake of a presidential campaign, which suggests that any birth certificate work was a small percentage of the overall fees paid to Perkins Coie.

In addition- there were only 3 lawsuits that Obama was a defendant- and Perkins Cole didn’t represent Obama in most(all?) of the cases- and all were quickly dismissed.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Speculation

3) “nothing I have said is untrue”

LOL- see above



4) “just pointing out the truth, carbon head. Hillary started it.”

There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton ever was involved with the Birther movement in any fashion or form. Some of her supporters- the so-called Puma’s were. The earliest recorded mention of the Birther claims was March 2008 on the rightwing blog- FreeRepublic

Barackryphal The Secret Origin of the Birthers

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

actually he was a black arab, you can look it up.

Why this is important to anyone other than a racist I don’t know, but it is a claim that we have seen from racists around 2008.

Well I did ‘look it up’- not a single credible reference- and I mean I won’t take Rush Limbaugh’s claim as a source- says that Obama is ‘arab’.

Status of Redfish’s claims: Lie

5) Do you find it funny that his grandmother died shortly after his visit to her in Hawaii?

As pointed out- Obama’s grandmother was elderly and ill- and Obama rushed to see her because of her poor health.

Status of Redfish’s claim: Innuendo

6) He either was a foreign student or commited fraud to get the money. which is it?

There is no evidence that shows that Barack Obama was ever a foreign student- or committed fraud to get any money. Just Redfish lying again

Status of Redfish’s claim: Lie

So now you are saying that the book jacket is correct, that he was born in Kenya?

Of course no book jacket says any such thing.

Status of Redfish's claim: Lie.

 

[Skylar]

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

]
Sheriff Joe launches intoObama's birth certificate– again
WND.com-Jul 5, 2015
Trumpand Arpaio both have claimedObama's birth certificate may be forged. Arpaio's office has been investigating the birth certificate since

Here's the part that I never understood; why didn't Sheriff Joe just call the issuing agency, the State of Hawaii? Its the first thing any credible investigator would do. But in nearly 4 years, Joe refuses to do.

What credible investigator would refuse to contact the issuing agency on the credibility of a document? Its like investigating if someone lives at a given address. But refusing to go to that address and ask if they live there.

Because it's not intended to be credible, it's intended to be political.

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If it was a lie why did obama allow the publisher to use it?

Who says it was a lie? The State of Hawaii affirms the information on the image of the LFBC posted on the website matches their original records.

So a 100% accurate forgery?

That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

This whole thread is about the fact that politicians and people in government lie. So you cite yet another politician?

I cite the Registar of Hawaii and the head of the Department of Health of Hawaii. Neither of whom were elected.

Though can I take it from your abandonment of your previous batshit that you recognize who full of corn and peanuts it was?

 

[Syriusly]

No one cares about your opposition to his political views.

Now what does Obama's political views have to do with your obsession about his college records.

Obsession? Nonsense.

I'd like to know if he was entered into Harvard as a Foreign Exchange student.

And?

And also whether there is any truth to the story about Obama getting into Harvard with bad grades through influence from a Foreign benefactor who is a Saudi prince.

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

 

[Skylar]

No one cares about your opposition to his political views.

Now what does Obama's political views have to do with your obsession about his college records.

Obsession? Nonsense.

I'd like to know if he was entered into Harvard as a Foreign Exchange student.

And?

And also whether there is any truth to the story about Obama getting into Harvard with bad grades through influence from a Foreign benefactor who is a Saudi prince.

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

And by 'no one' you mean the vast majority of folks that point and laugh at birthers, right?

And I ask again: wouldn't a rational person demand evidence for a story BEFORE they demand it be disproven?

If not, why not?

 

[MarcATL]

Lol I can't wait til the debates.

Me either.

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[RKMBrown]

Obsession? Nonsense.

I'd like to know if he was entered into Harvard as a Foreign Exchange student.

And?

And also whether there is any truth to the story about Obama getting into Harvard with bad grades through influence from a Foreign benefactor who is a Saudi prince.

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

 

[Skylar]

And?

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

I have. There's no evidence to back any of your batshit stories.

What you're offering us is baseless speculation, wild innuendo and stunning complication.

But evidence to back it? Nope. And that's why you failed.

 

[Syriusly]

And?

Is there evidence to back that story?

You may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Instead of demanding that any batshit conspiracy you hear be 'disproven', perhaps you should demand that the batshit conspiracies be proven first.

As there is no evidence to back either story.

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

 

[Hossfly]

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

You were Obama's shadow, Vacuumlips?

 

[Syriusly]

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

You were Obama's shadow, Vacuumlips?

I leave all of the sucking to you.

 

[Hossfly]

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

You were Obama's shadow, Vacuumlips?

I leave all of the sucking to you.

Were you with Obama when he would meet with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and study and discuss Alinsky? Did Bill fill Barry in about his murdering terrorist activity? You seem to know in detail everything else about the creature.

 

[Syriusly]

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

You were Obama's shadow, Vacuumlips?

I leave all of the sucking to you.

Were you with Obama when he would meet with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and study and discuss Alinsky? Did Bill fill Barry in about his murdering terrorist activity? You seem to know in detail everything else about the creature.

Were you there when you think that Ayers and Obama were talking about Alinsky?

All I know about Alinsky I have learned from Birthers- who seem obsessed with Alinsky.

 

[Hossfly]

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

You were Obama's shadow, Vacuumlips?

I leave all of the sucking to you.

Were you with Obama when he would meet with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and study and discuss Alinsky? Did Bill fill Barry in about his murdering terrorist activity? You seem to know in detail everything else about the creature.

Were you there when you think that Ayers and Obama were talking about Alinsky?

All I know about Alinsky I have learned from Birthers- who seem obsessed with Alinsky.

If you knew half of what you think you know, you wouldn't know half of what I know you know. Chew on that, True Believer.

 

[RKMBrown]

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

I have. There's no evidence to back any of your batshit stories.

What you're offering us is baseless speculation, wild innuendo and stunning complication.

But evidence to back it? Nope. And that's why you failed.

They are not my stories, you dumb fuck.

 

[RKMBrown]

Seems like both can be answered by showing us his Harvard papers no?

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

LOL- really- you are the one who was calling Obama's father and grandparents farm animals- and accusing them of being Communists- but of course unable to provide any actual evidence of that.

And when I point out that the American people didn't buy into your scare tactics you accuse me of dancing around his past?

I know more about Obama's past than I know of Bush's or Clinton's.

I even know the names of Obama's kindergarten teachers. I know who he took to the prom.

I leave the batshit craziness from those suffering from Obama derangement syndrome- aka Birthers.

They were not farm animals, you dumb fuck. Communist pig is an expression. And yes, Obama's parents and grand parents and friends have always been communists.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

]
Sheriff Joe launches intoObama's birth certificate– again
WND.com-Jul 5, 2015
Trumpand Arpaio both have claimedObama's birth certificate may be forged. Arpaio's office has been investigating the birth certificate since

Here's the part that I never understood; why didn't Sheriff Joe just call the issuing agency, the State of Hawaii? Its the first thing any credible investigator would do. But in nearly 4 years, Joe refuses to do.

What credible investigator would refuse to contact the issuing agency on the credibility of a document? Its like investigating if someone lives at a given address. But refusing to go to that address and ask if they live there.

Because it's not intended to be credible, it's intended to be political.

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If it was a lie why did obama allow the publisher to use it?

Who says it was a lie? The State of Hawaii affirms the information on the image of the LFBC posted on the website matches their original records.

So a 100% accurate forgery?

That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

This whole thread is about the fact that politicians and people in government lie. So you cite yet another politician?

No. That is not the topic of this thread. Read the OP and learn.

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[Skylar]

Seems that any rational person would demand evidence for a story *before* demanding it be disproven.

You do realize that making up a story backed by nothing doesn't actually obligate anyone to do anything?

Right?

You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

I have. There's no evidence to back any of your batshit stories.

What you're offering us is baseless speculation, wild innuendo and stunning complication.

But evidence to back it? Nope. And that's why you failed.

They are not my stories, you dumb fuck.

You're the one demanding they be disproven. They're yours now.

As a rational person would have demanded that the stories be backed with evidence....before demanding any random batshit that could be pulled sideways out of someone's ass be 'disproven'.

 

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You do realize you're fooling no one, right? Obama's pre-election friends list is widely known to include domestic terrorists, imprisoned officials, famous communists, and yes a Saudi Prince.

Well then if it was 'widely known'- then American voters decided that your accusations were immaterial- and elected him twice.

And Birthers still are obsessed about that.

Why do you have a need to dance around the questions of this mans history? Get up off your knees and take a look at this guy. Or you can wait till after his final term. ROFL Democrats, what a bunch of morons. I have no doubt that you folks will throw Obama under the bus at the end of his term.

I have. There's no evidence to back any of your batshit stories.

What you're offering us is baseless speculation, wild innuendo and stunning complication.

But evidence to back it? Nope. And that's why you failed.

They are not my stories, you dumb fuck.

You're the one demanding they be disproven. They're yours now.

As a rational person would have demanded that the stories be backed with evidence....before demanding any random batshit that could be pulled sideways out of someone's ass be 'disproven'.

Nope. I not demanding they be disproven. I'm asking to see his transcripts. He is after all, MY EMPLOYEE. I FUCKING PAY HIS SALARY.