Yes, I'm a Conservative, But SOME Rent Control IS Necesary

[Siete]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

 

[WinterBorn]

What you want to do is blame everyone but the individual that gets fired, or chooses not to work, for their lousy job performance or attitude.

Not if you quit or were fired for cause. If you want an income, keep working and don't quit your job.

what part of, employment at-will, do you not understand?

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment.

Perhaps it does. But that does not change the fact that quitting or being fired from a job means you don't draw unemployment.

Want long term income without working? Apply for welfare.

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

 

[danielpalos]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment. The right wing prefers to blame the Poor for it.

 

[danielpalos]

What you want to do is blame everyone but the individual that gets fired, or chooses not to work, for their lousy job performance or attitude.

what part of, employment at-will, do you not understand?

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment.

Perhaps it does. But that does not change the fact that quitting or being fired from a job means you don't draw unemployment.

Want long term income without working? Apply for welfare.

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

 

[WinterBorn]

What you want to do is blame everyone but the individual that gets fired, or chooses not to work, for their lousy job performance or attitude.

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment.

Perhaps it does. But that does not change the fact that quitting or being fired from a job means you don't draw unemployment.

Want long term income without working? Apply for welfare.

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

 

[WinterBorn]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment. The right wing prefers to blame the Poor for it.

No one blames anyone. But with choices, like quitting a job or violating the rules and getting fired, come consequences. One of those consequences is that you cannot draw unemployment compensation.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment.

Perhaps it does. But that does not change the fact that quitting or being fired from a job means you don't draw unemployment.

Want long term income without working? Apply for welfare.

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

 

[depotoo]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

 

[danielpalos]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment. The right wing prefers to blame the Poor for it.

No one blames anyone. But with choices, like quitting a job or violating the rules and getting fired, come consequences. One of those consequences is that you cannot draw unemployment compensation.

employment is at the will of either party, only the Poor get blamed for it.

 

[danielpalos]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective locally.

 

[WinterBorn]

Perhaps it does. But that does not change the fact that quitting or being fired from a job means you don't draw unemployment.

Want long term income without working? Apply for welfare.

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

Welfare does not cost more. An unemployment compensation, if it more cost effective, is only that way because of the limitations in amounts and terms.

 

[WinterBorn]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective locally.

No it is not. In order for unemployment compensation to do what you want, it would have to be completely revamped and grown into a huge bureaucracy with checks and balances to avoid fraud. It is more cost effective because it is strictly short term and for a much smaller group.

 

[WinterBorn]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Capitalism has a Natural rate of unemployment. The right wing prefers to blame the Poor for it.

No one blames anyone. But with choices, like quitting a job or violating the rules and getting fired, come consequences. One of those consequences is that you cannot draw unemployment compensation.

employment is at the will of either party, only the Poor get blamed for it.

No one gets blamed.

 

[danielpalos]

that perception should be challenged. a federal doctrine and State laws, claim employment is at the will of either party. EDD must show proof of for-Cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment benefits in our at-will employment States. It really is, for the public Good.

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

Welfare does not cost more. An unemployment compensation, if it more cost effective, is only that way because of the limitations in amounts and terms.

yes, it does. and does less. how lazy.

 

[danielpalos]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective locally.

No it is not. In order for unemployment compensation to do what you want, it would have to be completely revamped and grown into a huge bureaucracy with checks and balances to avoid fraud. It is more cost effective because it is strictly short term and for a much smaller group.

it is easier to simply apply for unemployment compensation if a person doesn't have a job.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you are fired for cause you can challenge it via the labor board.

And it is not a perception. It is the rules & laws of the unemployment compensation system.

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

Welfare does not cost more. An unemployment compensation, if it more cost effective, is only that way because of the limitations in amounts and terms.

yes, it does. and does less. how lazy.

It costs more because it is far larger and more open to fraud. Your idea for the changes to unemployment compensation would do the same thing.

Unemployment compensation and welfare do different things. You want to make them do the same thing, in other words duplication of services, and claim it is more cost effective? Nonsense.

 

[WinterBorn]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective locally.

No it is not. In order for unemployment compensation to do what you want, it would have to be completely revamped and grown into a huge bureaucracy with checks and balances to avoid fraud. It is more cost effective because it is strictly short term and for a much smaller group.

it is easier to simply apply for unemployment compensation if a person doesn't have a job.

So you, not only want to be paid for doing nothing, you want getting the money for sitting at home to be easier to get?

You are taking tax payer's money. The least you can do is be willing to apply for it. Its not like you are too busy.

 

[danielpalos]

I also cited a federal doctrine and State laws.

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

Welfare does not cost more. An unemployment compensation, if it more cost effective, is only that way because of the limitations in amounts and terms.

yes, it does. and does less. how lazy.

It costs more because it is far larger and more open to fraud. Your idea for the changes to unemployment compensation would do the same thing.

Unemployment compensation and welfare do different things. You want to make them do the same thing, in other words duplication of services, and claim it is more cost effective? Nonsense.

come on, story teller. tell me how being honest about not wanting work and collect unemployment compensation, leads to more fraud.

 

[danielpalos]

if your job doesnt pay the bills pull up your boots and go get a couple more.

seems to be the RW mantra of days past ...

`snort~

Actually, if you are able bodied in mind or physically, trim your bills or find a better paying job, or take on more jobs, or move to where the pay is better, or increase your skill level to get a better paying job, take advantage of that training many companies offer to increase your skills,. One has to do what one has to do. Don’t expect others to pick up your slack.

compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective locally.

No it is not. In order for unemployment compensation to do what you want, it would have to be completely revamped and grown into a huge bureaucracy with checks and balances to avoid fraud. It is more cost effective because it is strictly short term and for a much smaller group.

it is easier to simply apply for unemployment compensation if a person doesn't have a job.

So you, not only want to be paid for doing nothing, you want getting the money for sitting at home to be easier to get?

You are taking tax payer's money. The least you can do is be willing to apply for it. Its not like you are too busy.

The homeless could be getting off the street.

Why does the right wing use capitalism to blame the Poor?

 

[WinterBorn]

Not for unemployment compensation, you didn't. Welfare takes care of the federal and state doctrines you quoted.

welfare costs more and does less. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is more cost effective and results in automatic stabilization of our economy and a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

Welfare does not cost more. An unemployment compensation, if it more cost effective, is only that way because of the limitations in amounts and terms.

yes, it does. and does less. how lazy.

It costs more because it is far larger and more open to fraud. Your idea for the changes to unemployment compensation would do the same thing.

Unemployment compensation and welfare do different things. You want to make them do the same thing, in other words duplication of services, and claim it is more cost effective? Nonsense.

come on, story teller. tell me how being honest about not wanting work and collect unemployment compensation, leads to more fraud.

There are numerous ways to defraud such a system.

Like having income you do not report.
Like lying about how many people you support.
Like claiming you do not own your home.
Like you and your spouse both claiming to be single parents and claiming double.
Like getting a fake ID and claiming more than one check.
Like claiming you support yourself and living with your parents.

Those are a few, off the top of my head.

Lots of people don't want to work. But if you want to live indoors, eat regularly, have decent clothes ect ect, you get a job to earn them. You don't demand someone else give you money they earned.