Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves

[Clipper]

Yes, it’s real: Joe Biden’s Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves - Washington Examiner

Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie Lesko March 14, 2023 07:30 AM Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Email Print Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie...

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The White House lied and said this was not true.

"They want to starve us out"!

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Yes, it’s real: Joe Biden’s Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves - Washington Examiner

Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie Lesko March 14, 2023 07:30 AM Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Email Print Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie...

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The White House lied and said this was not true.

Remember all the democrats here who lied and called this a conspiracy theory.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Occam's razor says Joe's owners are trying everything to spark a Civil War. They keep adding to the kindling pile making it harder to contain both the extent of and the heat from the coming ignition

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Occam's razor says Joe's owners are trying everything to spark a Civil War. They keep adding to the kindling pile making it harder to contain both the extent of and the heat from the coming ignition

Actually Occam's razor says that Joe is just a fucking idiot. Far simpler explanation than yours.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Actually Occam's razor says that Joe is just a fucking idiot. Far simpler explanation than yours.

Well, you out Occamed me right there

 

[Smokin' OP]

Remember all the democrats here who lied and called this a conspiracy theory.

That is only because it is, dumbass.
Washington Examiner opinion.
The DOE announces a public meeting and retards think they are banning gas stoves.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That is only because it is, dumbass.
Washington Examiner opinion.
The DOE announces a public meeting and retards think they are banning gas stoves.

The public meeting is about a regulations that would make 50% to 90% of gas stoves on the market today illegal to sell.

This is not just some meeting.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The public meeting is about a regulations that would make 50% to 90% of gas stoves on the market today illegal to sell.

This is not just some meeting.

The Energy Policy and Conservation Act, as amended (“EPCA”), prescribes energy conservation standards for various consumer products and certain commercial and industrial equipment, including consumer conventional cooking products. EPCA also requires the U.S. Department of Energy (“DOE”) to periodically determine whether more-stringent standards would be technologically feasible and economically justified, and would result in significant energy savings. In this supplemental notice of proposed rulemaking (“SNOPR”), DOE proposes new and amended energy conservation standards for consumer conventional cooking products, and also announces a public meeting to receive comment on these proposed standards and associated analyses and results.

So........where does it state they're banning gas stoves?

The summary, they are bringing up pilot lights.

In accordance with these and other statutory provisions discussed in this document, DOE proposes new and amended energy conservation standards for consumer conventional cooking products. Per its authority in 42 U.S.C. 6295(h)(2), DOE proposes to remove the existing prescriptive standard for gas cooking tops prohibiting a constant burning pilot light.

Instead, for conventional cooking tops, DOE proposes performance standards only, shown in Table I.1 which are the maximum allowable integrated annual energy consumption (“IAEC”) and expressed in kilowatt-hours per year (“kWh/year”) for electric cooking tops and thousand British thermal units per year (“kBtu/year”) for gas cooking tops.

The IAEC includes active mode, standby mode, and off mode energy use. These proposed standards for conventional cooking tops, if adopted, would apply to all product classes listed in Table I.1 and manufactured in, or imported into, the United States starting on the date three years after the publication of any final rule for this rulemaking.

DOE notes that constant burning pilot lights, which are currently prohibited under the existing prescriptive standard for gas cooking tops, 10 CFR 430.32(j), consume approximately 2,000 kBtu/year.

While DOE's proposal would remove this prescriptive requirement from its regulations, DOE notes that, based on its review of the existing prescriptive standard prohibiting constant burning pilots for gas cooking tops, the proposed performance standards of 1,204 kBtu per year for gas cooking tops would not be achievable by products if they were to incorporate a constant burning pilot.

Public Meetings and Comment Deadlines​

Department of Energy (.gov)
https://www.energy.gov › eere › buildings › public-m...



The Department of Energy (DOE) provides the public with an opportunity to participate in meetings to discuss proposed changes to rulemakings and product ...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Energy Policy and Conservation Act, as amended (“EPCA”), prescribes energy conservation standards for various consumer products and certain commercial and industrial equipment, including consumer conventional cooking products. EPCA also requires the U.S. Department of Energy (“DOE”) to periodically determine whether more-stringent standards would be technologically feasible and economically justified, and would result in significant energy savings. In this supplemental notice of proposed rulemaking (“SNOPR”), DOE proposes new and amended energy conservation standards for consumer conventional cooking products, and also announces a public meeting to receive comment on these proposed standards and associated analyses and results.

So........where does it state they're banning gas stoves?

The summary, they are bringing up pilot lights.

In accordance with these and other statutory provisions discussed in this document, DOE proposes new and amended energy conservation standards for consumer conventional cooking products. Per its authority in 42 U.S.C. 6295(h)(2), DOE proposes to remove the existing prescriptive standard for gas cooking tops prohibiting a constant burning pilot light.

Instead, for conventional cooking tops, DOE proposes performance standards only, shown in Table I.1 which are the maximum allowable integrated annual energy consumption (“IAEC”) and expressed in kilowatt-hours per year (“kWh/year”) for electric cooking tops and thousand British thermal units per year (“kBtu/year”) for gas cooking tops.

The IAEC includes active mode, standby mode, and off mode energy use. These proposed standards for conventional cooking tops, if adopted, would apply to all product classes listed in Table I.1 and manufactured in, or imported into, the United States starting on the date three years after the publication of any final rule for this rulemaking.

DOE notes that constant burning pilot lights, which are currently prohibited under the existing prescriptive standard for gas cooking tops, 10 CFR 430.32(j), consume approximately 2,000 kBtu/year.

While DOE's proposal would remove this prescriptive requirement from its regulations, DOE notes that, based on its review of the existing prescriptive standard prohibiting constant burning pilots for gas cooking tops, the proposed performance standards of 1,204 kBtu per year for gas cooking tops would not be achievable by products if they were to incorporate a constant burning pilot.

Public Meetings and Comment Deadlines​

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The Department of Energy (DOE) provides the public with an opportunity to participate in meetings to discuss proposed changes to rulemakings and product ...

The DOE themselves said that 50% of the gas stoves on the market today would not qualify under the new rules.

 

[Harry Dresden]

My gas stove is going nowhere, and no one who actually likes to cook food or cooks for a living will abide by it. Besides, the DOE is an unelected agency with no authority whatsoever to legislate, that is the purview of the congress, so the action is illegal.

thats it right there.....cooks in restaurants use gas...and so do the hypocrites in DC ....it would never fly....

 

[Smokin' OP]

The DOE themselves said that 50% of the gas stoves on the market today would not qualify under the new rules.

Got a link?

Mine.

DOE rule may block 50% of current gas stove models​

E&E News
https://www.eenews.net › Articles



Feb 24, 2023 — DOE says the cooking regulation will preserve some market share for gas stoves that have at least one high-input rate burner and continuous cast ..
Half of gas stove models sold in the United States today won’t comply with a first-ever efficiency regulation on cooking appliances, according to a new analysis from the Department of Energy.

The projection, which DOE posted online two weeks after the rule’s release Jan. 31, aims to provide more clarification on the expected impact of a proposal earlier this month that is now receiving comments from the public (Energywire, Feb. 1).

DOE says the cooking regulation will preserve some market share for gas stoves that have at least one high-input rate burner and continuous cast iron grates, two features that DOE determined are priorities for the public. Both features use a lot of energy.

“We did go out of our way to make sure that these two features would remain on the market in creating our analysis,” Ortiz said. “Over half the market would remain if this standard is finalized as proposed.” Ortiz’s comments provide more context on a plan that has triggered partisan rancor in Washington D.C.

DOE mentioned the 50 percent projection in a memo called a notice of data availability released last week to present new analysis on market impacts and answer questions lobbed by industry. In that document, DOE said 40 percent of the current gas stove market does not have those two features and would likely comply with the proposed regulation of 1,204 thousand British thermal units (kBtu) of energy use annually.

Another small slice of the current gas stove market has the HIR and continuous grate features and already complies with the proposed regulation, bringing current compliance with the proposal to roughly half, DOE says.

That means roughly half the gas stove models purchased across the U.S. today will no longer be eligible for purchase in stores. It doesn’t mean that half the market will have to be electric, but that the gas stove industry will have to change what it sells to meet the standard. The 50 percent estimate was not included in the rule in January.

Doesn't mean they are coming into your kitchen.........by a long shot.

 

[toobfreak]

thats it right there.....cooks in restaurants use gas...and so do the hypocrites in DC ....it would never fly....

Can you imagine Chef Ramsey giving up his Vulcan gas range for electric heating elements! Not only does gas cook better but it is much cheaper than electric to operate because it is much simpler--- you release the energy right there directly in the flame of the gas straight to the skillet! And flames never wear out.

Electricity must be generated in some plant from burning coal, gas, hydro or nuclear then transported over wires for many miles, then stepped down at a substation, stepped down again at the street, then piped into the building where its flow through a resistive element finally heats it up where, if you are not in direct, firm contact with it, you lose yet more. Then the element burns out every few years.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Mine.
Half of gas stove models sold in the United States today won’t comply with a first-ever efficiency regulation on cooking appliances, according to a new analysis from the Department of Energy.

You are aware that 50% is half, correct?

 

[Smokin' OP]

You are aware that 50% is half, correct?

Yeah.
Where is the DOE going to BAN 50% of existing gas stoves, as implied by "others"?
Improving new models for sale in stores...............isn't a ban.

 

[g5000]

Yes, it’s real: Joe Biden’s Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves - Washington Examiner

Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie Lesko March 14, 2023 07:30 AM Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Email Print Opinion Yes, it's real: Joe Biden's Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves By Rep. Debbie...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

The White House lied and said this was not true.

Yes, the Biden administration is coming for your gas stove.


What time should I expect them?

 

[g5000]

I can't help but notice the Republican hack who wrote the article did not link to this alleged regulation.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah.
Where is the DOE going to BAN 50% of existing gas stoves, as implied by "others"?
Improving new models for sale in stores...............isn't a ban.

You are just playing semantics. If a model cannot legally be sold, is that not the same as a ban?

 

[Smokin' OP]

You are just playing semantics. If a model cannot legally be sold, is that not the same as a ban?

NO.
As implied by "others"
Like stating, discontinuing the Ford Pinto is banning all Ford vehicles, or ALL vehicles.
They discontinued solid state TV's, that doesn't mean people can't own one, they just can't get one brand new.

 

[g5000]

You are just playing semantics. If a model cannot legally be sold, is that not the same as a ban?

If something can't be sold, it does not mean they are coming for mine.

Yes, the Biden administration is coming for your gas stove.

 

[westwall]

When are the lizard people going to be exposed?

You expose yourself every day.