Your Faith On Trial

[Mudda]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

 

[BreezeWood]

I expect to get FACTS, so I don't NEED faith.

My prediction= You go away butthurt.

No man comes to The Father unless he goes through Jesus Christ.

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

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No man comes to The Father unless he goes through Jesus Christ.

is that what you are saying or believe what was written in that 4th century book ... "Jesus was a real man" - is refreshing what do you mean, christ.

 

[shimon]

Funny isnt it... It always boils down to money with guys like Ding Ding Ding Ding.. But then one always hears that sound of money in the casinos which are not unlike the places Ding visits like the Catholic Church when they pass around their donation plate... Ding Ding Ding...

You mean you don't have any money? You don't use money? I smell a hypocrite.

Usually I don't respond to trollers like you Ding but I am curious since you respond so inanely to almost every topic here do you get a kickback from any websites that are counting your posts here or are you working so hard for free...hmmmm...and as for your silly little swipe at me of course I use money but I try to use it for better things then donation plates at churches that take your money and fritter it away on themselves and their selfish needs...

 

[shimon]

Funny isnt it... It always boils down to money with guys like Ding Ding Ding Ding.. But then one always hears that sound of money in the casinos which are not unlike the places Ding visits like the Catholic Church when they pass around their donation plate... Ding Ding Ding...

Hey everything has its place. A friend once took me to lunch at a restaurant in a casino and two quarters I had put in my pocket that were in the ashtray telling self, "Self don't forget to put those in a slot machine after lunch before leaving". Those two quarters provided enough for groceries for a few weeks when things were pretty slack. I generally don't gamble as it is to hard earning it just to throw it away but it did work out that one day.

There is nothing wrong with going to a casino and having a night out of enjoyment and if you happen to get lucky and win then congrats but don't count on it those places are rigged against the sheeple just like churches, governments, insurance agencies etc etc to fleece the people out of their well earned coin...We are still in servitude( device industry) to the real owners and we are not in their club nor will we ever enter it....

 

[HaShev]

He's like the church, he never answers any serious question. Expects you to answer his though, go figure. *L*

 

[keepitreal]

We are living in perilous times. In the days ahead we can either lean upon our own understanding (and fall) or trust in God no matter what may come (and stand). The greater our faith, the greater our peace in times of trouble. The greater our suffering, the bigger our faith grows, if we can only continue to trust in God and believe that God is in full control. There is no triumph without the trial. We have been called to be overcomers but there must be something to overcome. For every trial we overcome, our faith increases. For every cliff hanger moment when Satan whispers, "Where is your God now?"....... There it is God is watching to see the reflection of His only begotten Son in us. Our trials are gifts, promotions, compliments.. it is as if God is saying, I already know this one will pass the test even as my servant Job did. Do your worst Satan because at the end of this thing? My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).

Here is Mrs. Cowman's March 7th Devotional:

For even when we came into Macedonia, our body had no rest at all, but we were troubled in every way – struggles from the outside, fears from within (2 Cor 7:5).

Why should God have to lead us thus, and allow the pressure to be so hard and constant? Well, in the first place, it shows His all-sufficient strength and grace much better than if we were exempt from pressure and trial. “The treasure is in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”

It makes us more conscious of our dependence upon Him. God is constantly trying to teach us our dependence, and to hold us absolutely in His hand and hanging upon His care.

This was the place where Jesus Himself stood and where He wants us to stand, not with self-constituted strength, but with a hand ever leaning upon His, and a trust that dare not take one step alone. It teaches us trust.

There is no way of learning faith except by trial. It is God’s school of faith, and it is far better for us to learn to trust God than to enjoy life.

The lesson of faith once learned, is an everlasting acquisition and an eternal fortune made; and without trust even riches will leave us poor.
—Days of Heaven upon Earth

“Why must I weep when others sing?
’To test the deeps of suffering.’
Why must I work while others rest?
’To spend my strength at God’s request.’
Why must I lose while others gain?
’To understand defeat’s sharp pain.’
Why must this lot of life be mine
When that which fairer seems is thine?
’Because God knows what plans for me
Shall blossom in eternity.’”

Streams in the Desert - March 7

Tyre=rock
My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).
So you admit now Jesus is the Prince and king of Tyre (the rock) hence
"Son of Perdition" (lucifer) of Ezekiel 28.

Ezekiel 28 warns that Lucifer (Jesus) would be a "Created Image"(icon) of a man, one that walked the Garden of Eden (ancient Persia) the place the Mithraic (man on cross) image did stem from.
In Ezekiel 28 We are told this fallen one would die by the hands of "The seas"(i.e. "Rome" in Bible era slang).
We are told this image would be fallaciously deemed perfect(sinless) until we saw the iniquities in these claims(information age exposes the iniquities in the stories) and that this son of *perdition(*meaning fall to the pit which the character did do 1 Peter 3:19, Acts 2:27) would be called the anointed(Christ) cherub(guardian in Hebrew= Nazarene)-Ezekiel 28:14-15.
We are warned of this first fallen messiah (Lucifer) idol all over the Bible.
The Temple Scroll:
(IIQT=IIQ19,20, 4Q365a)
Column II (The Covenant)
You must not bring any abominable idol into your house and come under the ban together with it.
You shall detest and abominate it for it is under the ban.
The rest talks about taking care not to make a covenant with the people who whore after their idol gods and sacrifice to it inviting them to do the same.
Metal idols
Leviticus 19:4
"`Do not turn to idols or make gods of cast metal for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.
1 Kings 14:9
Isaiah 48:5
Isaiah 44:10
Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?
One of the things that G0D forbids is idols, worship using images gods or even of G0D himself (Exodus 20:4 and Leviticus 26:1). Man, as it is written, was created as an image of G0D (Genesis 1:27). And, so, worshipping a man as G0D is idolatry.
After all, G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9).
In Isiah44;9 It states they that make a graven image are all of them vanity and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;(christians) they see not; nor know; that they may be ashamed. Still confused well here is some more. Isaiah44;13(notice it is 13) The carpenter(Who is that was Jesus not considered a carpenter) strecheth out his rule(over the world)he marketh it out with a line;he fitteth it with planes and he marketh it out with a compass, and maketh it after the fiqure of a man(JESUS);according to the beauty of a man;that it mat remain in the house(Maybe over your bed?) One more passage Isiah44;17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god(JESUS)Even his graven image(AGAIN JESUS);He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my god(forbidden JESUS).

LIAR!!! JESUS IS NOT LUCIFER!

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:12

To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence;
their foot shall slide in due time:
for the day of their calamity is at hand,
and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Deuteronomy 32:35

In their greed, these false teachers
will exploit you with tales they have concocted.
The longstanding verdict against them remains in force,
and their destruction does not sleep.

2 Peter 2:3

In order for you to checkmate my King,
He must first be in check....

You can't checkmate my King
because He sent His Son, as a discovered attack
preventing satan from being able to checkmate the King!

This battle is the Lord's...
neither you, nor the demons you vessel,
stand a chance to win...as it is written!

The calamity that will rain upon you
and the destruction that will devour you,
will be a testimony for God's Glory!

According to the Word of God
in the mighty name of Jesus,
you are compelled to be silent demon!

 

[ding]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

 

[ding]

Funny isnt it... It always boils down to money with guys like Ding Ding Ding Ding.. But then one always hears that sound of money in the casinos which are not unlike the places Ding visits like the Catholic Church when they pass around their donation plate... Ding Ding Ding...

You mean you don't have any money? You don't use money? I smell a hypocrite.

Usually I don't respond to trollers like you Ding but I am curious since you respond so inanely to almost every topic here do you get a kickback from any websites that are counting your posts here or are you working so hard for free...hmmmm...and as for your silly little swipe at me of course I use money but I try to use it for better things then donation plates at churches that take your money and fritter it away on themselves and their selfish needs...

Bless your heart.

 

[Mudda]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

 

[ding]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

We are living in perilous times. In the days ahead we can either lean upon our own understanding (and fall) or trust in God no matter what may come (and stand). The greater our faith, the greater our peace in times of trouble. The greater our suffering, the bigger our faith grows, if we can only continue to trust in God and believe that God is in full control. There is no triumph without the trial. We have been called to be overcomers but there must be something to overcome. For every trial we overcome, our faith increases. For every cliff hanger moment when Satan whispers, "Where is your God now?"....... There it is God is watching to see the reflection of His only begotten Son in us. Our trials are gifts, promotions, compliments.. it is as if God is saying, I already know this one will pass the test even as my servant Job did. Do your worst Satan because at the end of this thing? My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).

Here is Mrs. Cowman's March 7th Devotional:

For even when we came into Macedonia, our body had no rest at all, but we were troubled in every way – struggles from the outside, fears from within (2 Cor 7:5).

Why should God have to lead us thus, and allow the pressure to be so hard and constant? Well, in the first place, it shows His all-sufficient strength and grace much better than if we were exempt from pressure and trial. “The treasure is in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”

It makes us more conscious of our dependence upon Him. God is constantly trying to teach us our dependence, and to hold us absolutely in His hand and hanging upon His care.

This was the place where Jesus Himself stood and where He wants us to stand, not with self-constituted strength, but with a hand ever leaning upon His, and a trust that dare not take one step alone. It teaches us trust.

There is no way of learning faith except by trial. It is God’s school of faith, and it is far better for us to learn to trust God than to enjoy life.

The lesson of faith once learned, is an everlasting acquisition and an eternal fortune made; and without trust even riches will leave us poor.
—Days of Heaven upon Earth

“Why must I weep when others sing?
’To test the deeps of suffering.’
Why must I work while others rest?
’To spend my strength at God’s request.’
Why must I lose while others gain?
’To understand defeat’s sharp pain.’
Why must this lot of life be mine
When that which fairer seems is thine?
’Because God knows what plans for me
Shall blossom in eternity.’”

Streams in the Desert - March 7

Tyre=rock
My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).
So you admit now Jesus is the Prince and king of Tyre (the rock) hence
"Son of Perdition" (lucifer) of Ezekiel 28.

Ezekiel 28 warns that Lucifer (Jesus) would be a "Created Image"(icon) of a man, one that walked the Garden of Eden (ancient Persia) the place the Mithraic (man on cross) image did stem from.
In Ezekiel 28 We are told this fallen one would die by the hands of "The seas"(i.e. "Rome" in Bible era slang).
We are told this image would be fallaciously deemed perfect(sinless) until we saw the iniquities in these claims(information age exposes the iniquities in the stories) and that this son of *perdition(*meaning fall to the pit which the character did do 1 Peter 3:19, Acts 2:27) would be called the anointed(Christ) cherub(guardian in Hebrew= Nazarene)-Ezekiel 28:14-15.
We are warned of this first fallen messiah (Lucifer) idol all over the Bible.
The Temple Scroll:
(IIQT=IIQ19,20, 4Q365a)
Column II (The Covenant)
You must not bring any abominable idol into your house and come under the ban together with it.
You shall detest and abominate it for it is under the ban.
The rest talks about taking care not to make a covenant with the people who whore after their idol gods and sacrifice to it inviting them to do the same.
Metal idols
Leviticus 19:4
"`Do not turn to idols or make gods of cast metal for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.
1 Kings 14:9
Isaiah 48:5
Isaiah 44:10
Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?
One of the things that G0D forbids is idols, worship using images gods or even of G0D himself (Exodus 20:4 and Leviticus 26:1). Man, as it is written, was created as an image of G0D (Genesis 1:27). And, so, worshipping a man as G0D is idolatry.
After all, G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9).
In Isiah44;9 It states they that make a graven image are all of them vanity and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;(christians) they see not; nor know; that they may be ashamed. Still confused well here is some more. Isaiah44;13(notice it is 13) The carpenter(Who is that was Jesus not considered a carpenter) strecheth out his rule(over the world)he marketh it out with a line;he fitteth it with planes and he marketh it out with a compass, and maketh it after the fiqure of a man(JESUS);according to the beauty of a man;that it mat remain in the house(Maybe over your bed?) One more passage Isiah44;17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god(JESUS)Even his graven image(AGAIN JESUS);He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my god(forbidden JESUS).

LIAR!!! JESUS IS NOT LUCIFER!

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:12

To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence;
their foot shall slide in due time:
for the day of their calamity is at hand,
and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Deuteronomy 32:35

In their greed, these false teachers
will exploit you with tales they have concocted.
The longstanding verdict against them remains in force,
and their destruction does not sleep.

2 Peter 2:3

In order for you to checkmate my King,
He must first be in check....

You can't checkmate my King
because He sent His Son, as a discovered attack
preventing satan from being able to checkmate the King!

This battle is the Lord's...
neither you, nor the demons you vessel,
stand a chance to win...as it is written!

The calamity that will rain upon you
and the destruction that will devour you,
will be a testimony for God's Glory!

According to the Word of God
in the mighty name of Jesus,
you are compelled to be silent demon!

Au contraire,
What did I post?
Jesus admitting he was Lucifer in Rev 22:16.
You contradict your own icon.
What was your last post about?
Truth, and so I posted Dan 10:21.
Who knows who Lucifer is But Michael who "best knows these truths".
What did you post last? About wrestling the minds and hearts and who was the messenger who wrestles with the heart and mind of

Jesus never said he was Lucifer. I do not know where you are getting that from but the Scriptures clearly identify Jesus Christ as the Messiah, God with us. The Hebrew prophets prophesied about him. He fulfilled their prophecies. He is the Lord God Almighty.

 

[HaShev]

We are living in perilous times. In the days ahead we can either lean upon our own understanding (and fall) or trust in God no matter what may come (and stand). The greater our faith, the greater our peace in times of trouble. The greater our suffering, the bigger our faith grows, if we can only continue to trust in God and believe that God is in full control. There is no triumph without the trial. We have been called to be overcomers but there must be something to overcome. For every trial we overcome, our faith increases. For every cliff hanger moment when Satan whispers, "Where is your God now?"....... There it is God is watching to see the reflection of His only begotten Son in us. Our trials are gifts, promotions, compliments.. it is as if God is saying, I already know this one will pass the test even as my servant Job did. Do your worst Satan because at the end of this thing? My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).

Here is Mrs. Cowman's March 7th Devotional:

For even when we came into Macedonia, our body had no rest at all, but we were troubled in every way – struggles from the outside, fears from within (2 Cor 7:5).

Why should God have to lead us thus, and allow the pressure to be so hard and constant? Well, in the first place, it shows His all-sufficient strength and grace much better than if we were exempt from pressure and trial. “The treasure is in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”

It makes us more conscious of our dependence upon Him. God is constantly trying to teach us our dependence, and to hold us absolutely in His hand and hanging upon His care.

This was the place where Jesus Himself stood and where He wants us to stand, not with self-constituted strength, but with a hand ever leaning upon His, and a trust that dare not take one step alone. It teaches us trust.

There is no way of learning faith except by trial. It is God’s school of faith, and it is far better for us to learn to trust God than to enjoy life.

The lesson of faith once learned, is an everlasting acquisition and an eternal fortune made; and without trust even riches will leave us poor.
—Days of Heaven upon Earth

“Why must I weep when others sing?
’To test the deeps of suffering.’
Why must I work while others rest?
’To spend my strength at God’s request.’
Why must I lose while others gain?
’To understand defeat’s sharp pain.’
Why must this lot of life be mine
When that which fairer seems is thine?
’Because God knows what plans for me
Shall blossom in eternity.’”

Streams in the Desert - March 7

Tyre=rock
My servant will still be standing on the Rock (Jesus Christ).
So you admit now Jesus is the Prince and king of Tyre (the rock) hence
"Son of Perdition" (lucifer) of Ezekiel 28.

Ezekiel 28 warns that Lucifer (Jesus) would be a "Created Image"(icon) of a man, one that walked the Garden of Eden (ancient Persia) the place the Mithraic (man on cross) image did stem from.
In Ezekiel 28 We are told this fallen one would die by the hands of "The seas"(i.e. "Rome" in Bible era slang).
We are told this image would be fallaciously deemed perfect(sinless) until we saw the iniquities in these claims(information age exposes the iniquities in the stories) and that this son of *perdition(*meaning fall to the pit which the character did do 1 Peter 3:19, Acts 2:27) would be called the anointed(Christ) cherub(guardian in Hebrew= Nazarene)-Ezekiel 28:14-15.
We are warned of this first fallen messiah (Lucifer) idol all over the Bible.
The Temple Scroll:
(IIQT=IIQ19,20, 4Q365a)
Column II (The Covenant)
You must not bring any abominable idol into your house and come under the ban together with it.
You shall detest and abominate it for it is under the ban.
The rest talks about taking care not to make a covenant with the people who whore after their idol gods and sacrifice to it inviting them to do the same.
Metal idols
Leviticus 19:4
"`Do not turn to idols or make gods of cast metal for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.
1 Kings 14:9
Isaiah 48:5
Isaiah 44:10
Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?
One of the things that G0D forbids is idols, worship using images gods or even of G0D himself (Exodus 20:4 and Leviticus 26:1). Man, as it is written, was created as an image of G0D (Genesis 1:27). And, so, worshipping a man as G0D is idolatry.
After all, G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9).
In Isiah44;9 It states they that make a graven image are all of them vanity and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;(christians) they see not; nor know; that they may be ashamed. Still confused well here is some more. Isaiah44;13(notice it is 13) The carpenter(Who is that was Jesus not considered a carpenter) strecheth out his rule(over the world)he marketh it out with a line;he fitteth it with planes and he marketh it out with a compass, and maketh it after the fiqure of a man(JESUS);according to the beauty of a man;that it mat remain in the house(Maybe over your bed?) One more passage Isiah44;17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god(JESUS)Even his graven image(AGAIN JESUS);He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my god(forbidden JESUS).

LIAR!!! JESUS IS NOT LUCIFER!

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

Then you called him a Liar-Rev 22:16
and the OT a lie-Dan 10:21
Since you rely on both, you just called or proved yourself a liar instead.
-Checkmate!
You backed your king into a corner and lost your king.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:12

To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence;
their foot shall slide in due time:
for the day of their calamity is at hand,
and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Deuteronomy 32:35

In their greed, these false teachers
will exploit you with tales they have concocted.
The longstanding verdict against them remains in force,
and their destruction does not sleep.

2 Peter 2:3

In order for you to checkmate my King,
He must first be in check....

You can't checkmate my King
because He sent His Son, as a discovered attack
preventing satan from being able to checkmate the King!

This battle is the Lord's...
neither you, nor the demons you vessel,
stand a chance to win...as it is written!

The calamity that will rain upon you
and the destruction that will devour you,
will be a testimony for God's Glory!

According to the Word of God
in the mighty name of Jesus,
you are compelled to be silent demon!

Au contraire,
What did I post?
Jesus admitting he was Lucifer in Rev 22:16.
You contradict your own icon.
What was your last post about?
Truth, and so I posted Dan 10:21.
Who knows who Lucifer is But Michael who "best knows these truths".
What did you post last? About wrestling the minds and hearts and who was the messenger who wrestles with the heart and mind of Cyrus prince of the people & Persian King?
Thus Dan 10:21 I posted before you even knew you'd need to read it.
Once again getting a critic to inadvertantly pronounce me while fallaciously trying to sell your idol.
Read Dan 10:21 " in Hebrew" in conjunction with other verses on the one changing the heart (wrestling) with Anointed Cyrus.

Isaiah 44-45 the Lord (king)and
redeemer(in Hebrew HaSheva) who changes Cyrus the Prince and King of Persia's heart to rebuild the temple and gather the dispersed Jews back to their land then is Michael, since the name given by Daniel in
Dan 10 shows it was Michael battling this Persian King.
a it was Michael "battling" this Persian King (called prince of the people).
In Hebrew it says:
in Dan 10:20 where it says in regards to Michael:
*"Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee And now will
*Hashev Lacham Sar Parac"
(HaShev battles the prince of Persia).

Now what did you say about the son?

Isaiah 7:3 the son Isaiah is refering to is named Shear ‘Yshv’ (proper transliteration (pronounced hashev=return because Y=H sound) Shear ‘Yshv’ means a remnant shall ‘return’ (HaShev).

So when the Bible says the name is in the Mikdash, in the Mikra, the Torah portions carry the name like Miketz, then the name has to be Mike, not Jim, Joe, or Jesus.
YOU managed to lose twice playing the same game you already lost.

 

[HaShev]

Jesus never said he was Lucifer. I do not know where you are getting that from

The character is written(John 6:66) that Most of his followers left his movement after they saw him declared or declaring himself high as God like Lucifer(morning star)
in Isaiah 14:12-17.

[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

“So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star (LUCIFER)rises in your hearts.” -- 2 Peter 1:19
“... from my Father. To the one who conquers(DESTROYS) I will also give the morning star(LUCIFER).” -- Revelation 2:28
· Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches.
· I am the bright and Morning Star (lucifer)

Maybe you didn't read till the end of the book where secret answers and punch lines always sit. Maybe if you read like us Right to left you would have saved all the trouble of reading the rest and read that first.

Plus the fact you called him God is exactly why you fulfill him as Lucifer,
Ezekiel 28 lucifer will fall to the pit (acts 2:27 and 1 Peter 3:19) by the hands of the 'seas' (Rome's nickname)for claiming to be a god.
The only prophet deemed first fallen messiah claimed a god and perfect was Jesus therefore only Jesus 100% fulfills Lucifer & nobody else can because anyone doing the same would be second not first.
YOU DO UNDERSTAND SEQUENCES RIGHT?

 

[Mudda]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

Science has debunked all the big things in the bible. And none of the rest can be proven scientifically. Like if Jesus turned water into wine...

 

[ding]

Fact: Jesus was a real man.

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

Science has debunked all the big things in the bible. And none of the rest can be proven scientifically. Like if Jesus turned water into wine...

You mean like the universe had a beginning?

 

[HaShev]

Well if he/she sweat blood then sweating into the water turned it to wine (color), just don't drink the vinegar smelling white wine either cause Lucifer has a sick sense of humor that way.

Sweating blood is only a trait of
" WOMEN " with Turners syndrom.
Hence why I said "She".
Which would explain why Lazarus was Jesus' boyfriend.

 

[ding]

Well if he/she sweat blood then sweating into the water turned it to wine (color), just don't drink the vinegar smelling white wine either cause Lucifer has a sick sense of humor that way.

Sweating blood is only a trait of
" WOMEN " with Turners syndrom.
Hence why I said "She".
Which would explain why Lazarus was Jesus' boyfriend.

What you intend for evil god is using for good. Proof yet again of God's glory.

 

[Mudda]

Your statement does not withstand scientific scrutiny.

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

Science has debunked all the big things in the bible. And none of the rest can be proven scientifically. Like if Jesus turned water into wine...

You mean like the universe had a beginning?

Science has debunked the creation story of the bible. Anyways, we don't yet know whether the BB was a start or a continuation of many expansions and contractions.

 

[HaShev]

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

Science has debunked all the big things in the bible. And none of the rest can be proven scientifically. Like if Jesus turned water into wine...

You mean like the universe had a beginning?

Science has debunked the creation story of the bible. Anyways, we don't yet know whether the BB was a start or a continuation of many expansions and contractions.

See you are as much a tool and fool for their teachings as they are, because you use their interpretations to denounce their foolishness
without taking into consideration that their definitions and precepts are wrong and you thus are reading the stories wrong with them and thanks to them.
The Genesis days meant "eras" not thousand day periods.
Source Scroll:
The Ages of The World 4Q180-181

The nakedness they covered with fig leafs is a word meaning exposed truths, so they were covering up deceptions.
Adam in Hebrew means man, Eve was not mans first bride, thus represents the replacement bride=church, and serpent was the false prophet (jesus) who lead the church to partake of his teachings and the church to lead man (adam) into partaking of the forbidden teachings that promised eternal life, but lead to death as they "truly Did die"

 

[ding]

Sure it does. There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts. Early Christians wrote about Him, Jewish historians wrote about Him and secular historians wrote about Him.

I said "scientific" scrutiny, not literary scrutiny. Please try again.

What scientific scrutiny of the manuscripts prove them to be false?

Science has debunked all the big things in the bible. And none of the rest can be proven scientifically. Like if Jesus turned water into wine...

You mean like the universe had a beginning?

Science has debunked the creation story of the bible. Anyways, we don't yet know whether the BB was a start or a continuation of many expansions and contractions.

The Bible correctly tells us that the universe had a beginning and that the evolution of matter into consciousness occurred through stages.