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It is an "income" tax
Those who have the most "income" pay the most tax
It is an "income" tax
Those who have the most "income" pay the most tax
Damn RW why did you have to kill his thread in the first post?
Nope - I'm hanging my hat on the numbers. That kind of turnaround in three years is very dramatic. By any standard. Attempts to claim otherwise - in contradiction to the numbers based on opinion - is not solid imho.
Ah, you admit it's your opinion.
Keynesian economics assumes government spending is good for the economy and you assume that there are zero costs when the government diverts money from the private sector. That is not the case. Whether the money for increased spending comes from increased taxes or borrowing, the damage to the economy is the same. Less money for consumers to put into the economy, so slowing economic growth. It was true in the 30's and 60's and 70's in the United State,, in Japan in the 90's to today and it's true today.
I assume unemployment was slashed, GDP soared, and consumer spending soared.
Oh wait .... the numbers say that - I'm not assuming anything. Yes, dramatic is a subjective term.
How about zero deductions? For anything. Everybody pay the exact same X% of their income. Seems fair to me.All are deductible (subsidy) on your Federal form.
Why don't you do a 're-do' of your taxes without the subsidy. Let me know how that work out.
I don't drink milk, so why the fuck should I be forced to subsidize it?You are paying $5 a gallon for milk because without government subsidies, you would be paying $7 a gallon
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...rm-bill-impasse-could-send-US-off-dairy-cliff.
If you want to drink cow milk, pay the market price, don't force me to pay part of it for you.
The same goes for anything else you want to purchase.
Why the fuck do you people think the taxpayer should be subsidizing anything at the force of the majority or government?
Cheese? Butter?
Milk products go into much of what we eat
Please provide a link to these supposed slashes that you speak of.Rich democrat politicians.Very true
You can't touch wealth. You can only tax income. So what do th wealthy do? Minimize what gets reported as income and protect wealth
Meanwhile, the middle class sees their wealth diminish as they are fully taxed on their income
Guess who writes the tax code?
Wealthiest Members of Congress - List of the 10 Wealthiest Members of Congress
Seven of the top 10 are democrats.
You can start spinning now.
And those wealthy Democrats vote to raise their own taxes
Meanwhile, the wealthy Republicans vote to slash food stamps for the poor
But the Marxists keep saying the rich aren't paying their "fair share."
Taxpayers earning $100,000 or more a year pay 71.6% of the nations share in individual federal income taxes, according to the latest data from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) from 2011.
These data do not include corporate income taxes, or taxes on capital gains or dividends, or payroll taxes for Social Security and other programs.
In 2011, according to the IRS, there were 145,370,240 individual income tax returns filed. Among those returns, 125,914,418 or 86.6%, belonged to taxpayers earning a salary less than $100,000. The remaining 19,455,822 returns belonged to those taxpayers earning more than $100,000, or 13.4% of the total.
While those top earners, earning six figures or more, represented only 13.4% of the total number of individual income tax returns reported to the IRS, they contributed nearly three-fourths of the total amount of federal tax revenue from individual filers reported for that year.
$100K-Plus Earners Pay 72% of Federal Income Taxes | CNS News
That small number of taxpayers paid 72% of income taxes, but they also earned 45% of all the personal income in the country.
That is how a progressive tax works; you pay a higher rate on your money earned in the higher brackets.
What's your remedy, if you think a remedy is needed? Cut the rates on the higher brackets and raise the rates on the lower brackets?
That would do it, but it would also be in keeping with what I've said repeatedly...
...conservatives want to increase the gap between rich and poor.
Everybody gets a public education. Name one person or group that doesn't.Lots of families on Medicaid have jobs. If you tax them you're making them pay into the government, and then get paid back from the government when they need healthcare, via Medicaid. That's stupid.
Why not just cut their Medicaid?
Hence why there should be no handouts from the government... and everyone earning even $1 should be paying income tax
Right. When the poor receive no medical care, and no public education, and no help with food, or housing, or energy,
then America will be a better place?
...and still there are conservatives on this forum who attack me for pointing out that what conservatives want is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
You people prove it in post after post. Own up to it.
You don't build character in poor people by making them poorer.
It is an "income" tax
Those who have the most "income" pay the most tax
And if the tax system was overhauled to become more fair, it'd still be that way. One flat rate for everyone, everyone with income pays.
Explain a flat tax system where the wealthy do not end up paying less and the working poor do not end up paying more
I believe most are not lazy. They simply don't realize how much better they can do for themselves than the government can do for them.
It seems many like NYCarbineer see the poor as helpless....people that cant do it on their own if they didn't get it from the government.
They are not. A need for food and shelter is an amazing motivator. The need for food and shelter for your children is an even greater motivator.
You reflect what I've also said many times. Conservatives want poverty to hurt people as much as it possibly can,
to 'motivate' them.
Most Medicaid goes to children, the elderly, and the disabled. Do you have lots of jobs ready for those people,
once you've 'motivated' them?
I just want people to be ashamed of being on the dole.
Shame is a better motivator than pain
How about zero deductions? For anything. Everybody pay the exact same X% of their income. Seems fair to me.
Why don't you do a 're-do' of your taxes without the subsidy. Let me know how that work out.
I'm not sure what subsidy you seem to have magically discovered for me, but please tell me what it is because I can't find it. I eagerly await your clairvoyance concerning my taxes for 2014.
The numbers are misleading. It's really only the top 5% who are paying a disproportionately large share in taxes on the income that group earns.
If you are in the 10% to 5%, that group earns 11% of all the income produced, and pays 12% of all the income tax collected.
See the link:
Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 71 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
How many of you are in the top 10% of all income earners????????
Why don't you do a 're-do' of your taxes without the subsidy. Let me know how that work out.
I'm not sure what subsidy you seem to have magically discovered for me, but please tell me what it is because I can't find it. I eagerly await your clairvoyance concerning my taxes for 2014.
Your deductions are subsidies. Any financial aid that the Government gives you is a subsidy.
I'm not sure what subsidy you seem to have magically discovered for me, but please tell me what it is because I can't find it. I eagerly await your clairvoyance concerning my taxes for 2014.
Your deductions are subsidies. Any financial aid that the Government gives you is a subsidy.
Tell me, what deductions do I have?
It amazes me that you, as some random internet forum person somehow has discovered some sort of deduction/subsidy that applies to my taxes. Again, please tell me what it is because I can't find it.
I am relying on your clairvoyance to avoid taxes for 2014 as I regret missing them for tax year 2013.
You don't build character in poor people by making them poorer.
If someone has a legitimate reason for being poor other then being lazy? Fine help em out.
And making someone work for what they have will most definitely build character and confidence in their ability to be more then a taker.
Someone working at minimum wage is poor. They don't appear to be lazy to me from what I've seen.
If someone has a legitimate reason for being poor other then being lazy? Fine help em out.
And making someone work for what they have will most definitely build character and confidence in their ability to be more then a taker.
Someone working at minimum wage is poor. They don't appear to be lazy to me from what I've seen.
The wife of my daughter's Science teacher works for minimum wage. They are not poor, she just wants some extra spending money and doesn't want any responsibility. My niece makes minimum wage as a college student. She's not poor either.
