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1) No, I don't. Those cops were not psychos... They jumped on him because he refused to go easy, duh...Yeah only there were no cigs on him.. he wasn't selling cigs.. no one called him in on selling cigs... cigs is the bullshit excuse they came up with to drag his ass in and question him about the fight.Yeah well NYC has lots of laws... so what? He still has a right to sell em.That's not what the law in NY says. You can get arrested for a whole slew of minor offenses, including not paying for moving violations. If you're stupid enough to resist you are to blame for whatever happens.
I know NY has a lot of laws, the cops weren't out of line arresting him for it. Especially after the stores owners (minorities themselves) had complained about Garner. If you're a convenience store owner selling cigarettes in your store, you wouldn't want Garner hanging out in front of your entrance, would you? The Muslim Pakistani market owner also has a right to conduct legal business in that neighborhood, without being impeded by characters like Garner.
Yeah sure. All those cops were psychos jumping on a guy for nothing and trying to arrest Garner. You actually believe that, don't you? The fact that Garner was engaged in selling illegal loosies is irrefutable.
2) They didn't help the guy afterwards because they were ignorant of what they had just done. I doubt any one of them even considered that the guy was dying on the ground in front of them and that if they had done CPR maybe he'd be alive today. The one guy kept looking at him to see if he was ok and seemed to care, but did not go as far as to perform CPR. The others probably saw him looking at the guy and figured he was on the case.
3) Your definition of irrefutable and mine... might not be the same. Do you have a link to evidence he was selling cigs at that time? Or is the arrest based on him selling at some other time. Was there a warrant out for his arrest? Link?
The same...If I did, what conclusion would I draw?Maybe you should read up on the two incidents.Now the talking heads are saying too many cops were sent to arrest Garner. Two weeks ago the same people were saying more cops should have been called to arrest Brown. What the hell is the difference?
Agreed. Not sure what the argument is on number 3.. it's just questions.1) No, I don't. Those cops were not psychos... They jumped on him because he refused to go easy, duh...Yeah only there were no cigs on him.. he wasn't selling cigs.. no one called him in on selling cigs... cigs is the bullshit excuse they came up with to drag his ass in and question him about the fight.Yeah well NYC has lots of laws... so what? He still has a right to sell em.
I know NY has a lot of laws, the cops weren't out of line arresting him for it. Especially after the stores owners (minorities themselves) had complained about Garner. If you're a convenience store owner selling cigarettes in your store, you wouldn't want Garner hanging out in front of your entrance, would you? The Muslim Pakistani market owner also has a right to conduct legal business in that neighborhood, without being impeded by characters like Garner.
Yeah sure. All those cops were psychos jumping on a guy for nothing and trying to arrest Garner. You actually believe that, don't you? The fact that Garner was engaged in selling illegal loosies is irrefutable.
2) They didn't help the guy afterwards because they were ignorant of what they had just done. I doubt any one of them even considered that the guy was dying on the ground in front of them and that if they had done CPR maybe he'd be alive today. The one guy kept looking at him to see if he was ok and seemed to care, but did not go as far as to perform CPR. The others probably saw him looking at the guy and figured he was on the case.
3) Your definition of irrefutable and mine... might not be the same. Do you have a link to evidence he was selling cigs at that time? Or is the arrest based on him selling at some other time. Was there a warrant out for his arrest? Link?
I agree with everything except number three. The cops didn't realize what had just happened. So the cops didn't intentionally do anything they normally did not do. That's want the grand Jury found.
But, Garner did have a history of selling loosies and several arrests. This was his livelihood. All in all it's just a sad tragic situation which is now being exploited by those who don't have the best intentions.
Have you watched the videos of Garner's treatment?Problem is there are knuckleheads out there that actually believe that shit. Cops have in for the blacks, medics have it in for the blacks, whites have it in for the blacks, justice system has it in for the blacks.
IMO, the point being regardless of the circumstances, he was cuffed and taken into Police custody. At that time the police are responsible for his or your safety and well being .. police are trained to recognize and issue emergency care when and if necessary. It was their responsibility to act and help not sit and watch a person in their custody die.
Did you watch the film of them putting the dead body on the stretcher?IMO, the point being regardless of the circumstances, he was cuffed and taken into Police custody. At that time the police are responsible for his or your safety and well being .. police are trained to recognize and issue emergency care when and if necessary. It was their responsibility to act and help not sit and watch a person in their custody die.
They didn't sit and watch him die.
Just to be clear. He died some time later.
Oh. I got it now. 2.5 is the magic number. I'll pass it on. Thanks.The same...If I did, what conclusion would I draw?Maybe you should read up on the two incidents.Now the talking heads are saying too many cops were sent to arrest Garner. Two weeks ago the same people were saying more cops should have been called to arrest Brown. What the hell is the difference?
That at least one more than one was needed in the Brown case... and that a ridiculous number showed up for the Garner case and still none did their job to perform CPR on the dead guy.
Did you watch the film of them putting the dead body on the stretcher?IMO, the point being regardless of the circumstances, he was cuffed and taken into Police custody. At that time the police are responsible for his or your safety and well being .. police are trained to recognize and issue emergency care when and if necessary. It was their responsibility to act and help not sit and watch a person in their custody die.
They didn't sit and watch him die.
Just to be clear. He died some time later.
YWOh. I got it now. 2.5 is the magic number. I'll pass it on. Thanks.The same...If I did, what conclusion would I draw?Maybe you should read up on the two incidents.Now the talking heads are saying too many cops were sent to arrest Garner. Two weeks ago the same people were saying more cops should have been called to arrest Brown. What the hell is the difference?
That at least one more than one was needed in the Brown case... and that a ridiculous number showed up for the Garner case and still none did their job to perform CPR on the dead guy.
ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
It's more effective for Obama and the Democrats to talk about these fake injustices, rather than the high rate of black on black crime, and why they haven't been able to keep their promise of creating jobs for blacks. So not only are they masking their total incompetence and betrayal, they make themselves look like the good guys. It's the same strategy on immigration.
Funny part is the democrat dummies know it.... but they also don't have any pride.ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
It's more effective for Obama and the Democrats to talk about these fake injustices, rather than the high rate of black on black crime, and why they haven't been able to keep their promise of creating jobs for blacks. So not only are they masking their total incompetence and betrayal, they make themselves look like the good guys. It's the same strategy on immigration.
The thing is, from their point of view, they are not being incompetent. It is their stupid voting base.
From a political stand point, it is wise. The democrats are in no way concerned about the well being of America, and they sure as shit do not care or intend to uphold the constitution. They are committed socialists. That is me being kind too.
Look at how effective they are in convincing their stupid base that they care about the poor, or minorities, or women etc etc etc. They have done a great job of keeping their "Ameritopia" dream alive. No matter what goes wrong with their policies, they are able to blame their favorite scapegoat. The white, Christian, American conservative.
All things that are wrong in the world is ALL their fault. You name it.
THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.
Like I said, you have to stand in awe at how effectively they use their dumb ignorant base like the pawns they all are.
ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
It's more effective for Obama and the Democrats to talk about these fake injustices, rather than the high rate of black on black crime, and why they haven't been able to keep their promise of creating jobs for blacks. So not only are they masking their total incompetence and betrayal, they make themselves look like the good guys. It's the same strategy on immigration.
The thing is, from their point of view, they are not being incompetent. It is their stupid voting base.
From a political stand point, it is wise. The democrats are in no way concerned about the well being of America, and they sure as shit do not care or intend to uphold the constitution. They are committed socialists. That is me being kind too.
Look at how effective they are in convincing their stupid base that they care about the poor, or minorities, or women etc etc etc. They have done a great job of keeping their "Ameritopia" dream alive. No matter what goes wrong with their policies, they are able to blame their favorite scapegoat. The white, Christian, American conservative.
All things that are wrong in the world is ALL their fault. You name it.
THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.
Like I said, you have to stand in awe at how effectively they use their dumb ignorant base like the pawns they all are.
This makes no sense whatsoever.
7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.
Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."
You do realize the republican leadership is a bunch of democrats that switched hats to be socialist republicans, right?ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
It's more effective for Obama and the Democrats to talk about these fake injustices, rather than the high rate of black on black crime, and why they haven't been able to keep their promise of creating jobs for blacks. So not only are they masking their total incompetence and betrayal, they make themselves look like the good guys. It's the same strategy on immigration.
The thing is, from their point of view, they are not being incompetent. It is their stupid voting base.
From a political stand point, it is wise. The democrats are in no way concerned about the well being of America, and they sure as shit do not care or intend to uphold the constitution. They are committed socialists. That is me being kind too.
Look at how effective they are in convincing their stupid base that they care about the poor, or minorities, or women etc etc etc. They have done a great job of keeping their "Ameritopia" dream alive. No matter what goes wrong with their policies, they are able to blame their favorite scapegoat. The white, Christian, American conservative.
All things that are wrong in the world is ALL their fault. You name it.
THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.
Like I said, you have to stand in awe at how effectively they use their dumb ignorant base like the pawns they all are.
You have to hand it to them. They are very effective manipulators and propagandists. If the republican leadership had half the brains the democrat leadership had, they'd be in a very different place.
It's amazing how this whole situation has been choreographed from the beginning and nobody realizes this. People were at the Michael Brown indictment announcement with signs already made up for protesting and riots. And today Hillary catches a pass from Obama, and gives a speech about the "injustices in the legal system towards blacks". So in essence she's positioning herself for collecting all the black and Hispanic cites when she runs in 2016. The Democrats have cashed in on a big chuck of voters, all in matter of two weeks and two moves on the political chess board. And all Hillary needs to do now is bring the women home, and she has 2016 in the bag.
You do realize the republican leadership is a bunch of democrats that switched hats to be socialist republicans, right?ok regardless of the facts, let us talk about how the left wing democrats exploit these situations to build on their victim narrative.
That is the only issue with this situation that happened in July.
Fucking liberals. Such hypocrites. Such pawns.
It's more effective for Obama and the Democrats to talk about these fake injustices, rather than the high rate of black on black crime, and why they haven't been able to keep their promise of creating jobs for blacks. So not only are they masking their total incompetence and betrayal, they make themselves look like the good guys. It's the same strategy on immigration.
The thing is, from their point of view, they are not being incompetent. It is their stupid voting base.
From a political stand point, it is wise. The democrats are in no way concerned about the well being of America, and they sure as shit do not care or intend to uphold the constitution. They are committed socialists. That is me being kind too.
Look at how effective they are in convincing their stupid base that they care about the poor, or minorities, or women etc etc etc. They have done a great job of keeping their "Ameritopia" dream alive. No matter what goes wrong with their policies, they are able to blame their favorite scapegoat. The white, Christian, American conservative.
All things that are wrong in the world is ALL their fault. You name it.
THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.
Like I said, you have to stand in awe at how effectively they use their dumb ignorant base like the pawns they all are.
You have to hand it to them. They are very effective manipulators and propagandists. If the republican leadership had half the brains the democrat leadership had, they'd be in a very different place.
It's amazing how this whole situation has been choreographed from the beginning and nobody realizes this. People were at the Michael Brown indictment announcement with signs already made up for protesting and riots. And today Hillary catches a pass from Obama, and gives a speech about the "injustices in the legal system towards blacks". So in essence she's positioning herself for collecting all the black and Hispanic cites when she runs in 2016. The Democrats have cashed in on a big chuck of voters, all in matter of two weeks and two moves on the political chess board. And all Hillary needs to do now is bring the women home, and she has 2016 in the bag.
