145 million for 6 miles of wall

[eagle1462010]

Forgotten Actor Peter Fonda is a Domestic Terrorist | National Border Patrol Council

Here are Peter Fonda’s recent tweets:

“WE SHOULD HACK THIS SYSTEM, GET THE ADDRESSES OF THE ICE AGENTS CBP AGENTS AND SURROUND THEIR HOMES IN PROTEST. WE SHOULD FIND OUT WHAT SCHOOLS THEIR CHILDREN GO TO AND SURROUND THE SCHOOLS IN PROTEST. THESE AGENTS ARE DOING THIS CUZ THEY WANT TO DO IT. THEY LIKE DOING THIS. F**K.”

“SS (Sarah Sanders) is a lying gash, too. And “gash” is much worse than c**t. Maybe we should take her children away and deport her to Arkansas, and giving her children to Stephen Goebbels Miller for safe keeping.”

“WE SHOULD RIP BARRON TRUMP FROM HIS MOTHER’S ARMS AND PUT HIM IN A CAGE WITH PEDOPHILES AND SEE IF MOTHER WILL STAND UP AGAINST THE GIANT AS***LE SHE IS MARRIED TO. 90 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS ON THE SAME WEEKEND IN THE COUNTRY. F**K.”

“Sounds great. We don’t have to take the agents kids, we only need to surround their schools and scare the shit out of them and worry the f**k out of the agents from CBE ICE & REGULAR BORDER PATROL AGENTS. WE NEED TO SCARE THE F**K OUT OF THEM! NEED TO MAKE THEIR CHILDREN WORRY NOW”

“KRISTJEN NIELSEN IS A LYING GASH THAT SHOULD BE PUT IN A CAGE AND POKED AT BY PASSERBY. THE GASH SHOULD BE PILLORIED IN LAFAYETTE SQUARE NAKED AND WHIPPED BY PASSERBY WHILE BEING FILED FOR POSTERITY.”

 

[AntiTrump]

Native born Americans commit more crimes then documented and UnDocumented immigrants.

Lie

NEW RESEARCH: The impact of illegal aliens on crime rates, data codebook and “do file”
17 JAN , 2018

Using newly released detailed data on all prisoners who entered the Arizona state prison from January 1985 through June 2017, we are able to separate non-U.S. citizens by whether they are illegal or legal residents. This data does not rely on self-reporting by criminals. Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens. Yet, there are several reasons that these numbers are likely to underestimate the share of crime committed by undocumented immigrants. There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants.

Young convicts are especially likely to be undocumented immigrants. While undocumented immigrants from 15 to 35 years of age make up slightly over 2 percent of the Arizona population, they make up almost 8% of the prison population. Even after adjusting for the fact that young people commit crime at higher rates, young undocumented immigrants commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. These undocumented immigrants also tend to commit more serious crimes.

If undocumented immigrants committed crime nationally as they do in Arizona, in 2016 they would have been responsible for over 1,000 more murders, 5,200 rapes, 8,900 robberies, 25,300 aggravated assaults, and 26,900 burglaries.

NEW RESEARCH: The impact of illegal aliens on crime rates, data codebook and "do file" - Crime Prevention Research Center

We don't even have a clue as to how many illegal aliens are in our country.

Trump cherry-picks examples of violent illegal immigrants to stir up his base, but the statistics tell a different story
John Haltiwanger

Nov. 1, 2018, 1:55 PM

• President Donald Trump has repeatedly portrayed undocumented immigrants as dangerous, violent criminals who must be kept out of the US at all costs, but crime data tells a different story.
• Multiple studies using federal and state data have found no suggestion that rising immigration rates leads to more violent crime.
• Trump on Wednesday released a controversial ad falsely linking Democrats to an undocumented immigrant who killed two cops in California.
• Trump's rhetoric on this issue has completely ignored statistics that show native-born Americans commit crimes at a higher rate than undocumented immigrants.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly portrayed undocumented immigrants as dangerous, violent criminals who must be kept out of the US at all costs, but crime data tells a different story.

He began his presidential campaign by referring to undocumented Mexican immigrants as "rapists" who bring drugs and crime into the country. His campaign continued to seize on anti-immigrant sentiments, as he riled supporters up with a promise to build a wall along the US-Mexico border and the assertion that Mexico would pay for it.

Since entering the White House, Trump has only escalated this trend.

In August, for example, Trump used the killing of Mollie Tibbetts, a 20-year-old University of Iowa student, to renew calls for funding for his border wall. The suspect in the killing is a Mexican national who was reportedly living in the US illegally.

Responding to the news of Tibbetts' death, Trump said, "A person came in from Mexico, illegally, and killed her. We need the wall, we need our immigration laws changed, we need our border laws changed."

More recently, ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, Trump released an ad falsely linking Democrats to an undocumented immigrant who killed two police officers in California.

Beyond the fact that experts say a border wall would do little to stop undocumented immigration, Trump's rhetoric on this issue has completely ignored statistics that show native-born Americans commit crimes at a higher rate than undocumented immigrants.

Read more: Trump invited 'permanently separated' families to speak about loved ones allegedly killed by unauthorized immigrants — and he autographed posters of the victims' faces

As David Mosher of Business Insiderreported in August:

• Multiple studies using federal and state data have found no suggestion that rising immigration rates leads to more violent crime.
• The charts below come from a December 2016 study published in the Journal of Ethnicity in Criminal Justice. They show that US saw a 118% increase in its immigrant population (documented and undocumented) from 1980 through 2016.
• Yet during this same period, the rate of violent crime — homicides, rapes, robberies, and assaults, according to the FBI — fell by 36% to about 386 incidents per 100,000 residents.

Shayanne Gal/Business Insider

• A more recent peer-reviewed study, published in March 2017 by The Sociological Quarterly, compared all forms of immigration and violence in rural versus urban communities from 1990 through 2010. The number of foreign-born residents — accounting for many other factors — appeared to reduce violent crime rates in rural areas, though not at statistically significant levels. But in cities, immigration was significantly associated with reduced rates of violent crimes.
• There's also a study published in February by the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, which further rejects the idea that illegal immigration is tied to increases in rates of violent crime.
• The study looked at conviction data in Texas — the state with the second-largest population of foreign-born residents — for native-born, unauthorized immigrant, and legal immigrant residents.
• The research found that native-born residents were most likely to commit and be convicted of crimes, while unauthorized immigrants saw a conviction rate that was about 50% lower. Legal immigrants appeared to be the most law-abiding, with 86% fewer convictions than native-born Texans.

Shayanne Gal/Business Insider

• There's also a Criminology journal study from March that examined states' reported rates of violent crime and illegal immigration. From 1990 through 2014, that data found a negative correlation — meaning that the more a population was made up of unauthorized immigrants, the lower the violent crime rate seemed to be.

In short, there's a broad set of data showing Trump's cherry-picked examples of violent undocumented immigrants don't paint an accurate picture of crime in the US, or of undocumented immigrants in general.

True

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[AntiTrump]

Just because you put a video up doesn't mean it's true lol.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Six miles. Just walk around it.

Will it be the same solution when the wall is 16 miles longer? 60 miles? 160 miles?

I saw an interview once of a landowner on the border where the wall abruptly ended on her property. She said that illegals would walk along the wall until it ended. cross the border, and then show up at her door. She would give them water, and they would meekly turn around and start back into Mexico! They would not take one step further into the US after walking forever along that wall! They had enough and went back home!

 

[eagle1462010]

Just because you put a video up doesn't mean it's true lol.

That was Border Patrol video you dolt...............The Reo Grande sector is a high traffic area........And high Drug smuggling area...........Border apprehensions for 2017 at 150,000 Of which 20% have a prior criminal conviction....

derp

 

[iceberg]

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

That is more than 24 million per mile.

What a stupid waste of money we don’t have


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Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year… Appeasement helps nobody

This is in one post the biggest problem with our country today, people have lost the ability to think rationally. Either you support 24 million dollars per mile wall or your support appeasement...to the sheep from both sides there is nothing in the middle there are only the two extremes.

This has been programmed into the populous by the two parties, everything is a choice between two extremes and any nuanced thought is attacked and vilified.

people went n got binary. dont do what i want, you must want what i dont want.

a billion shades of gray between black and white and yet it must be black or white.

 

[eagle1462010]

https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2017-12/border_report_2017.pdf

CBP law enforcement personnel also played a critical counter-narcotics role, resulting in the seizure of more than 2.14 million pounds of narcotics and the disruption of more than 81,000 pounds of narcotics in FY17.


CBP seized:

1.59 million pounds of marijuana;

273,580 pounds cocaine;

66,617 pounds of methamphetamine;

5,760 pounds of heroin; and

1,485 pounds of fentanyl7.

 

[sparky]

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The Wall between Israel and Palestine seems to work well? Why can it not be duplicated here without the Leftists whining about it nonstop?

 

[miketx]

Cheaper then taking care of illegal scum.

And cheaper than the burial costs of thousand of opioid deaths each year.

deflect deflect deflect.....blather rinse repeat

 

[Rustic]

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

That is more than 24 million per mile.

What a stupid waste of money we don’t have


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Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year… Appeasement helps nobody

This is in one post the biggest problem with our country today, people have lost the ability to think rationally. Either you support 24 million dollars per mile wall or your support appeasement...to the sheep from both sides there is nothing in the middle there are only the two extremes.

This has been programmed into the populous by the two parties, everything is a choice between two extremes and any nuanced thought is attacked and vilified.

Getting along is way overrated

 

[Lesh]

Jesus...build the wall already.

No one is stopping you

 

[eagle1462010]

https://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/data-portal/Alien_Incarceration_Report_2018_Q1.pdf


B. Primary Offenses Committed by Known or Suspected Aliens in BOP Custody

Approximately 46 percent (17,621) of known or suspected aliens in BOP custody had committed drug trafficking or other drug-related offenses (such as conspiracy to commit drug trafficking offenses, or smuggling large amounts of drugs on the high seas) as their primary offense, making it the most common type of offense. Of the 17,621 known or suspected aliens in BOP custody with a drug offense as their primary offense, only 107 (approximately one half of one percent) had a primary offense of simple possession—and many of these were traffickers who were caught with significant amounts of drugs but were convicted of lesser offenses as a result of circumstances such as plea bargains. The remaining 17,514 known or suspected aliens with a primary offense related to drugs (more than 99 percent of the total) were convicted of drug trafficking-related crimes.3


Approximately 29 percent (10,912) of known or suspected aliens in BOP custody had committed immigration offenses (such as illegal reentry after deportation or human trafficking) as their primary offense. The third-largest category (approximately eight percent, or 3,161 individuals) of known or suspected aliens in BOP custody were those categorized as "Other," which is composed primarily of individuals awaiting trial. Drug trafficking-related and immigration offenses were the most common primary offenses associated with those in the "Other" category.


Of the known or suspected aliens in BOP custody, approximately four percent (1,673) had committed fraud as their primary offense (see Figure 3). Another four percent (1,486) committed weapons offenses (including firearms offenses). Racketeering and continuing criminal enterprise offenses (including murder for hire) were the primary offenses committed by approximately 3 percent (1,174), and obscene materials offenses (such as production or distribution of child pornography) and other sex offenses were the primary offenses committed by approximately 2 percent (782). Other primary offenses committed by smaller numbers of known or suspected aliens in BOP custody included kidnapping, murder, larceny, terrorism, escape, bribery and extortion, rape, and other offenses—aside from terrorism-related offenses, many of these types of offenses are typically prosecuted at the state and local level.

 

[eagle1462010]

Immigration Data Portal

Pick your report if you so desire...............the Drug War at the border continues........And make no mistake....it's a War South of our Border...........The Cartels own the dang countries.

 

[Lesh]

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL!!!\ STOP WHINING

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU

 

[bripat9643]

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

$145M Texas border wall project awarded, Customs and Border Protection says

That is more than 24 million per mile.

What a stupid waste of money we don’t have


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Oh, but we do have the money to pay for 300,000 anchor babies every year? When you complain about the cost of the wall, we know you're spewing bullshit.

I am against birthright citizenship, have said so 100 times or more. What I do not support that you do, is just ignoring the parts of the Constitution I do not like

In other words, you support birthright citizenship. You like to pretend you don't, though.

 

[bripat9643]

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL!!!\ STOP WHINING

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU

Yeah, the Dims and RINOs in Congress are stopping it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Jesus...build the wall already.

No one is stopping you

We are waiting for you to cross to the other side first! You know, Mexico, where they will lock your ass up for illegally crossing their border!

 

[eagle1462010]

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL!!!\ STOP WHINING

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU

Awe..........venting this morning..............LOL

Nearly half of those caught are caught in this area...........In Texas..........Imagine that..........a State that wants the border secure.

High Traffic area costs ............where border cities are close by..........costs more........Imagine that.....

One area where a whole lot of drugs are caught coming in every year.....Imagine that........

California doesn't want the wall .............imagine that.

imagine that