$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.
The deficit isn't 20 trillion. The debt is.

Facts. Doy!

I stand corrected.
It's been a LOOOOOOOOOONG day.
Now please explain how Hillary's plan will reduce or eliminate it.
No one is claiming she can eliminate it. She can reduce it by cutting defense spending and closing corporate tax loopholes.

Funny stuff ....

The DoD budget can't be cut any longer without further impacting the security of the nation. In fact, it needs to be increased.

Closing corporate tax loopholes? Seriously? You're talking about $180 billion annually - Corporate Tax Breaks Cost U.S. Government $180 Billion Per Year: GAO Report | Huffington Post

That isn't enough to buy toilet paper for the government. The national debt increases about $3 billion per day ---- that means, we can stop the bleeding for TWO WHOLE MONTHS! Then, we go right back to losing $3 billion a day.

You cannot - can NOT - decrease the debt by increasing the income. We passed that point about 6 years ago. Now, there is only ONE way to reduce the debt - decrease spending below income - use the extra money to pay against the debt.

It ain't rocket science -but you sure need to stop listening to those people who benefit from the deficit. Their empires are built on that debt.

We could use my plan and eliminate all 'Decit' in five years.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 600 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.
 

You know the deal. This isn't new.


How is Trump going to “force” companies to hire Americans? For the 2nd time. Either answer or shut the fuck up.

He will close down the companies that don't hire Americans.
So you're telling us illegals are Americans? Huh....

Maybe....

I'm sure people will be happy to pay more. That argument worked so well for the dems in the 80s

Focus...Hillary's Plan.
You clearly thought we should all vote for Trump because Hillary won't reduce the debt.

In other words, retard, your entire topic was built on a false premise. To wit, Trump will reduce the debt and Clinton won't.

A false premise collapses your argument. Please take a Logic course.

Idiot.

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, National Defense and the Department of Education are the largest expenditures of the national government. Which one is Trump going to cut? If the answer is none of these then he isn't going to reduce the debt by making controversial cuts. That means he is going to raise taxes. Nope. He said he was going to cut taxes. You don't make a smaller deficit by cutting $5,000,000 out of a $4,000,000,000,000 budget. That is totally asinine. To create a surplus higher taxes are necessary or making cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, National Defense or the Department of Education are necessary. This isn't a magic show.

Get a calculator. Please. Don't be a fucking idiot that believes mathematically impossible claims. If Trump is going to be like Reagan then we will have the same results that we had under Reagan.
No wonder you are a clueless fucktard liberal...

Read Trumps plan....

What page is it on? Just because I am good at math doesn't make me a liberal.
Public school?
 
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Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

Have you ever considered that Trump's plan expresses an extreme view so that it leaves a massive amount of room for negotiation?

For example when you go to buy a car the Car Dealership has a ridiculous price on the windshield. They know that nobody will pay that much for the car. It's just a tool to start the conversation. Then you come back with a ridiculous counter offer that you know they won't accept. Eventually the two of you work out a deal that is good for both of you but also bad for both of you. They didn't sell the $12,000 car to you for $18,000 but you didn't get the $12,000 car for $7,000 either. Trump's plan are deliberately unrealistic. He is leaving room to make a deal.

Last night the Republican candidate wore a blue tie which is a Democratic color. The Democratic candidate wore a red dress which is a Republican color. Both of them are ready to wheel and deal. Trump doesn't really want to implement tariffs. He has already started the negotiation. Even if he does implement tariffs they will be short lived. The offending nation would comply with our demands within a short period of time. Trump talks in extremes because that gets people's attention. That is deliberate. He does that on purpose.

“Trump’s plans are deliberately unrealistic….”

Sums it up perfectly.

Not all people have the art of negotiation. That's why Trump will lose. They think Trump is delusional because he speaks in extremes. He is deliberately setting the bar unrealistically high so that he can reach the highest point on the realistic side of things. Let's say it is realistic to achieve 8. If you start the bar at 12 then you might just end up with 8. If you start the bar at 8 then you might end up with 6. You just lost 2 by being realistic in your discussion. Don't be a loser. Be a winner.

I first voted in 1952....voted for Eisenhower. I can't believe the Republican party has ended up with a rich, spoiled ass hole running on their ticket.
 
Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

Have you ever considered that Trump's plan expresses an extreme view so that it leaves a massive amount of room for negotiation?

For example when you go to buy a car the Car Dealership has a ridiculous price on the windshield. They know that nobody will pay that much for the car. It's just a tool to start the conversation. Then you come back with a ridiculous counter offer that you know they won't accept. Eventually the two of you work out a deal that is good for both of you but also bad for both of you. They didn't sell the $12,000 car to you for $18,000 but you didn't get the $12,000 car for $7,000 either. Trump's plan are deliberately unrealistic. He is leaving room to make a deal.

Last night the Republican candidate wore a blue tie which is a Democratic color. The Democratic candidate wore a red dress which is a Republican color. Both of them are ready to wheel and deal. Trump doesn't really want to implement tariffs. He has already started the negotiation. Even if he does implement tariffs they will be short lived. The offending nation would comply with our demands within a short period of time. Trump talks in extremes because that gets people's attention. That is deliberate. He does that on purpose.

“Trump’s plans are deliberately unrealistic….”

Sums it up perfectly.

Not all people have the art of negotiation. That's why Trump will lose. They think Trump is delusional because he speaks in extremes. He is deliberately setting the bar unrealistically high so that he can reach the highest point on the realistic side of things. Let's say it is realistic to achieve 8. If you start the bar at 12 then you might just end up with 8. If you start the bar at 8 then you might end up with 6. You just lost 2 by being realistic in your discussion. Don't be a loser. Be a winner.

I first voted in 1952....voted for Eisenhower. I can't believe the Republican party has ended up with a rich, spoiled ass hole running on their ticket.

When did Hilary become Republican?

Silly far left drone!
 
$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

She has no plan and neither does Trump

Wrong as always!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/u...l-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0

Oh, so you mean stiff people for the money they're owed like he's been doing for the past 30 years?
Trump stiffed my firm....we did shit work.....you pay for shit work?
 
$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

She has no plan and neither does Trump

Wrong as always!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/u...l-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0

Oh, so you mean stiff people for the money they're owed like he's been doing for the past 30 years?

No you claimed that Trump had NO plan, I showed he did using the far left NYT..

Just be a man and admit you were wrong!
 
$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

She has no plan and neither does Trump

Wrong as always!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/u...l-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0

Oh, so you mean stiff people for the money they're owed like he's been doing for the past 30 years?

No you claimed that Trump had NO plan, I showed he did using the far left NYT..

That doesn't do a whole lot of good when they'll continue spending money we don't have
 
$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

She has no plan and neither does Trump

Wrong as always!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/u...l-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0

Oh, so you mean stiff people for the money they're owed like he's been doing for the past 30 years?

No you claimed that Trump had NO plan, I showed he did using the far left NYT..

That doesn't do a whole lot of good when they'll continue spending money we don't have

You were wrong, just be a man and admit it!
 
Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

Have you ever considered that Trump's plan expresses an extreme view so that it leaves a massive amount of room for negotiation?

For example when you go to buy a car the Car Dealership has a ridiculous price on the windshield. They know that nobody will pay that much for the car. It's just a tool to start the conversation. Then you come back with a ridiculous counter offer that you know they won't accept. Eventually the two of you work out a deal that is good for both of you but also bad for both of you. They didn't sell the $12,000 car to you for $18,000 but you didn't get the $12,000 car for $7,000 either. Trump's plan are deliberately unrealistic. He is leaving room to make a deal.

Last night the Republican candidate wore a blue tie which is a Democratic color. The Democratic candidate wore a red dress which is a Republican color. Both of them are ready to wheel and deal. Trump doesn't really want to implement tariffs. He has already started the negotiation. Even if he does implement tariffs they will be short lived. The offending nation would comply with our demands within a short period of time. Trump talks in extremes because that gets people's attention. That is deliberate. He does that on purpose.

“Trump’s plans are deliberately unrealistic….”

Sums it up perfectly.

Not all people have the art of negotiation. That's why Trump will lose. They think Trump is delusional because he speaks in extremes. He is deliberately setting the bar unrealistically high so that he can reach the highest point on the realistic side of things. Let's say it is realistic to achieve 8. If you start the bar at 12 then you might just end up with 8. If you start the bar at 8 then you might end up with 6. You just lost 2 by being realistic in your discussion. Don't be a loser. Be a winner.

I first voted in 1952....voted for Eisenhower. I can't believe the Republican party has ended up with a rich, spoiled ass hole running on their ticket.

Palin, What's his Name, and now Trump. What's there not to believe?
 
Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

She believes if you increase it, it will decrease. That's her plan.
 
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

We have $19.5 trillion in debt
$123.6 trillion in national assets of which $90.1 trillion is in household assets the rest corporate and small business

Budget deficit $590 billion

U.S. GDP. $18.5 trillion
 
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U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

We have $19.5 trillion in debt
$123.6 trillion in national assets

Yeah and Republican tax cuts for the rich have caused the whole damn thing:

..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
 

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