$20.2 Billion per year for Air Conditioning

No, they do deserve AC.

Which does not mean the question is illegitimate.

The answer is in the same area as to why the hammer in Home Depot costs $3.95 and the school district and police department where I live buy it for $39.99.

It is called corruption.

The military probably buys mil-spec air conditioners from General Dynamics for $20,000 each, not the $300 Home Depot special.

So what? That doesn't make it the troops fault now does it?

Who said it was the troops fault? I don't think our troops need to be there. Since they are there though, they deserve some creature comforts like AC, hot meals, and showers that don't electrocute them. If you want to save some money, just bring them home.
 
Among The Costs Of War: Billions A Year In A.C.?



The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan: $20.2 billion, according to a former Pentagon official.

That's more than NASA's budget. It's more than BP has paid so far for damage from the Gulf oil spill. It's what the G-8 has pledged to help foster new democracies in Egypt and Tunisia.


"When you consider the cost to deliver the fuel to some of the most isolated places in the world — escorting, command and control, medevac support — when you throw all that infrastructure in, we're talking over $20 billion," Steven Anderson tells weekends on All Things Considered guest host Rachel Martin. He's a retired brigadier general who served as chief logistician for Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq. He's now in the private sector, selling technologies branded as energy-efficient to the Defense Department.


Now it's important to note that wrapped up in Anderson's $20 billion figure are all kind of other expenditures – for instance, the cost of building and maintaining roads in Afghanistan, securing those roads, managing the security operations for those roads. That all costs a lot of money and is part of the overall war effort in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon rejects Anderson's estimate. Still his claims raise questions about how much the US footprint in Afghanistan really costs – especially something like air conditioning.

Why Does It Cost So Much?
To power an air conditioner at a remote outpost in landlocked Afghanistan, a gallon of fuel has to be shipped into Karachi, Pakistan, then driven 800 miles over 18 days to Afghanistan on roads that are sometimes little more than "improved goat trails," Anderson says. "And you've got risks that are associated with moving the fuel almost every mile of the way."


Anderson calculates that more than 1,000 troops have died in fuel convoys, which remain prime targets for attack. Freestanding tents equipped with air conditioners in 125-degree heat require a lot of fuel. By making those structures more efficient, Anderson says, the military could save lives and dollars.


Still, his $20.2 billion figure raises stark questions about the ongoing war in Afghanistan. In the wake of President Obama's announcement this past week that 33,000 American troops will soon return home, how much money does the U.S. stand to save?




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Now it's important to note that wrapped up in Anderson's $20 billion figure are all kind of other expenditures – for instance, the cost of building and maintaining roads in Afghanistan, securing those roads, managing the security operations for those roads. That all costs a lot of money and is part of the overall war effort in Afghanistan.

This is the same type of accounting that everyone rejected as crazy when some had claimed Obama's trip to India cost $200 million per day.
 
Yea, screw our military.. Lets follow this dick's rant- NO AIR CONDITIONING FOR MILITARY MEMBERS risking their lives.. you lowlifes can sweat and SHUT up about it.. How dare you use money to keep cool in a desert, living in a tent, 1000's of miles away from any family.. not knowing if you'll be alive tomorrow.. eating crap and shitting in holes..

There it is on display.. THE HATE FILLED LIBRUL .. sick. sooo sick.

If there was a real need for us to be there, your rant might have a point. The point of the OP is that we are wasting money by being there, and this is just part of the absurdity of it all. Are you always this dense?

I think you are giving Synth waaaaay too much credit.
 
Yea, screw our military.. Lets follow this dick's rant- NO AIR CONDITIONING FOR MILITARY MEMBERS risking their lives.. you lowlifes can sweat and SHUT up about it.. How dare you use money to keep cool in a desert, living in a tent, 1000's of miles away from any family.. not knowing if you'll be alive tomorrow.. eating crap and shitting in holes..

There it is on display.. THE HATE FILLED LIBRUL .. sick. sooo sick.

If there was a real need for us to be there, your rant might have a point. The point of the OP is that we are wasting money by being there, and this is just part of the absurdity of it all. Are you always this dense?
Yes, she is.
 
Any idea how tepid and weak that makes us appear to the enemy? We have no business over there. Bring them all home.

A military member living in 125 degree heat looks weak if he has air conditioning???? WTF?? You fucking zombies are literally insane.. ROFL

No, it's insane to think otherwise. How do you think his enemy, acclimated to his own environment, looks at a soldier who has to live in a refrigeration unit to survive? How do you think they feel about the water they waste?
 
Looks like warbler has slunk in to see if LadyCumSucker has one more suck in her before she passes out again.
:rofl:
Any idea how tepid and weak that makes us appear to the enemy? We have no business over there. Bring them all home.

A military member living in 125 degree heat looks weak if he has air conditioning???? WTF?? You fucking zombies are literally insane.. ROFL

No, it's insane to think otherwise. How do you think his enemy, acclimated to his own environment, looks at a soldier who has to live in a refrigeration unit to survive? How do you think they feel about the water they waste?
Good point. Well LGS :eusa_eh: :eusa_whistle:
 
Among The Costs Of War: Billions A Year In A.C.?



The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan: $20.2 billion, according to a former Pentagon official.

That's more than NASA's budget. It's more than BP has paid so far for damage from the Gulf oil spill. It's what the G-8 has pledged to help foster new democracies in Egypt and Tunisia.


"When you consider the cost to deliver the fuel to some of the most isolated places in the world — escorting, command and control, medevac support — when you throw all that infrastructure in, we're talking over $20 billion," Steven Anderson tells weekends on All Things Considered guest host Rachel Martin. He's a retired brigadier general who served as chief logistician for Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq. He's now in the private sector, selling technologies branded as energy-efficient to the Defense Department.


Now it's important to note that wrapped up in Anderson's $20 billion figure are all kind of other expenditures – for instance, the cost of building and maintaining roads in Afghanistan, securing those roads, managing the security operations for those roads. That all costs a lot of money and is part of the overall war effort in Afghanistan.


The Pentagon rejects Anderson's estimate. Still his claims raise questions about how much the US footprint in Afghanistan really costs – especially something like air conditioning.

Why Does It Cost So Much?
To power an air conditioner at a remote outpost in landlocked Afghanistan, a gallon of fuel has to be shipped into Karachi, Pakistan, then driven 800 miles over 18 days to Afghanistan on roads that are sometimes little more than "improved goat trails," Anderson says. "And you've got risks that are associated with moving the fuel almost every mile of the way."


Anderson calculates that more than 1,000 troops have died in fuel convoys, which remain prime targets for attack. Freestanding tents equipped with air conditioners in 125-degree heat require a lot of fuel. By making those structures more efficient, Anderson says, the military could save lives and dollars.


Still, his $20.2 billion figure raises stark questions about the ongoing war in Afghanistan. In the wake of President Obama's announcement this past week that 33,000 American troops will soon return home, how much money does the U.S. stand to save?

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Nuclear power...in the form of a few well placed bombs would be the best solution.
 
Synth,

What is purpose of this thread?

Do you have a problem with troops in the desert having Air Conditioning in their living areas or what?

No, they do deserve AC.

Which does not mean the question is illegitimate.

The answer is in the same area as to why the hammer in Home Depot costs $3.95 and the school district and police department where I live buy it for $39.99.

It is called corruption.

The military probably buys mil-spec air conditioners from General Dynamics for $20,000 each, not the $300 Home Depot special.

The $300 Home Depot special won't stand up to field conditions.

But let's compare some specs, shall we?

The $300 HD special: A/C Cooling Rate (BTU/hr) 10000 A/C Coverage Area (sq. ft.) 450

10K BTU, cools an area of 450 sq ft., or with an 8-foot ceiling, a volume of 3,600 cu ft. Not real impressive, huh?

The Field Deployable Environmental Control Unit is the standard military deployable air conditioner. Costs $10,825.84 -- BUT has 65K BTUs cooling, and 48K BTUs heating. One unit heats/cools the Alaskan Small Shelter System, which is 650 sq ft, with an outside temperature range of -25° to +125°. The AKSSS has an internal volume of 5,100 cubic feet.

Is the FDECU worth it? Yup. No question.
 
Is the AC budget for the military a priority over NASA?
You once claimed you were in Kuwait.

Obviously, you lied.
I've never claimed I was in Kuwait. For the Middle East, I was in Türkiye, Egypt, Morocco, Israel. And I was told I was standing in Syria, but I don't believe it.
Really. Then why did you mention the ITT guys in Kuwait once? I believe it was on Neutral Underground.

Nevertheless, you know it's hot in the Middle East. So why don't you give a shit about our troops?
 
You know the types, all those fat assed CIA advisers, clerks and staff and officers who need a tour in a combat zone to get a medal need their air-conditioning to make grand strategic plans while the Troops get blown up in a useless and stagnant war. You can bet your ass that the fifty or sixty limousines that Obama needs for his staff in Africa are well air conditioned.
 

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