300 acts of domestic terrorism in the US are committed by right wing extremists

[sakinago]

From the church in Mississippi, to the stabbings in Portland, the majority of terrorist acts in this country are committed by right wing extremist white males.

America's Biggest Terrorist Threat? The Far-Right White Male
The Trump administration may deny it, but the numbers are there.

The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly avarage of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly avarage of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.
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Alt right violence is the biggest threat we have in the country today.

Your own article admits it has to ignore 2 big Muslim extremist attacks to get its number. Also the definition of far right the author uses is the European definition. Which the European spectrum isn't so much of a spectrum, but more of a circle, or horseshoe. With fascism and communism at either tops, and what we consider libertarianism at the bottom of the U. This differs from the American spectrum, in that anarchist is far right, then libertarian, then conservative, moderate R, moderate D, progressive, socialist, national socialist, communist at the far left. Remember, NAZI stands for NATIONAL SOCIALIST. Socialist being the operative word there, and is not far off from communism. The only difference is communism has complete control of essentially everything, fascism has control of most with a little bit of ad lib ability. Which doesn't mix well with anything past moderate R. Stop calling it right wing.

Nazis were not socialists and nazism is still a far right ideaology.

National Socialist Party was the name of the Party that Hitler co-opted, just as the Republican Party is the party Trump co-opted but Trump is no Republican. Holder hated socialists and loathed communism. The was a right wing fascist dictator.

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
-Hitler 1927

Hitler had control of economy, controlled wages to workers. Instituted socialized medicine, and free day care for all, as well as free education. And straight up took control of industries and business, and created government ran benifits, as well as food stamp programs, etc, given out liberally to the population he wasn't exterminating. Ever hear of Volkswagen... "Volks" (the people) "Wagen" (car)...the people's car. Or the Autobahn, that was a government program to get the masses back to work, much like FDRs socialist policies. He also implemented gun control. That's socialism for ya. Often Hitler's domestic policies were overlooked by the whole Eugenic cleansing, and world domination type policies. And just because there was plenty of nationalism in Nazi germany to go around, doesn't mean that there wasn't any socialism. You don't have to be one or the other, hybrid governments exist, look at China. And just because Hitler wasn't a "democratic socialist" doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist, sure him and Bernie would disagree on a good bit (mostly the Eugenics, and domination stuff). But, Lenin I believe coined the term "democratic socialist," (if he didn't coin it, he certainly described himself that way) and look how that turned out.

And how many times do I have to explain this. If you're referring to the European spectrum, where what we call libertarian is in the middle, and communism is far left, and fascism is far right, then yes it is far right. In that system it's best to look at it like a U shape with the Y axis representing increasing government control, with libertarianism at the bottom of the U. Remember a liberal in Europe is very different from a "liberal" in America. A liberal in Europe is what we call libertarian. If you're referring to the American system (which it sounds like you are), from right to left is increasing government control, with communism on one end (left) and anarchy on the other end (right). Then NO, it is not far right, since fascism requires a great deal of government control.

 

[sakinago]

Depends on which spectrum you're talking about. In the US spectrum, no it doesn't. If you're referring to the traditional European spectrum...youre talking about two different groups of people. You seem to refer to right wing as anything not on the US left wing. Which is less and less government the further you go right. When is the last libertarian or constitutionalist who carried out one of your so called "terrorist" attacks?

Not to mention your article even says it has to disclude two major Muslim extremist attacks for its claim to be true.

I'm not referring to any spectrum. The Portland stabber is an admitted right wing supremacist. The guy who murdered Collins belongs to an alt right militia group.

Sean Urbanski, the University of Maryland student who allegedly stabbed Collins to death, belongs to a racist Facebook group called Alt-Reich: Nation.
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The left doesn't go out and commit over 900 hate crimes because Trump got elected. It's right wing extremists who feel emboldened by Trump winning the election going out and thinking it is okay and acceptable to commit violence.

IF YOUR CALLING IT RIGHT WING THEN YOU HAVE TO BE REFERRING TO SOME SORT OF SPECTRUM. If it's not a spectrum than the term right wing means absolutely nothing, unless there is somewhere different someone else could fall in a spectrum, say left wing. There is a color spectrum, for different wavelengths of light, I CANT CALL SOMETHING RED, AND THEN SAY IM NOT REFERRING TO THE ANY SORT OF COLOR SPECTRUM. That is exactly what you did there.

 

[sakinago]

and you are still a sociopath, just because you say it , doesn't make it true.

This thread is not about me. It's about right wing white boys being the biggest terrorist threat the country is facing.

Your own article says that it's not true, especially when it is admittedly leaving out the two biggest terrorist attacks. How in the world do you think it's ok to keep glossing over that fact?

 

[sakinago]

Depends on which spectrum you're talking about. In the US spectrum, no it doesn't. If you're referring to the traditional European spectrum...youre talking about two different groups of people. You seem to refer to right wing as anything not on the US left wing. Which is less and less government the further you go right. When is the last libertarian or constitutionalist who carried out one of your so called "terrorist" attacks?

Not to mention your article even says it has to disclude two major Muslim extremist attacks for its claim to be true.

I'm not referring to any spectrum. The Portland stabber is an admitted right wing supremacist. The guy who murdered Collins belongs to an alt right militia group.

Sean Urbanski, the University of Maryland student who allegedly stabbed Collins to death, belongs to a racist Facebook group called Alt-Reich: Nation.
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The left doesn't go out and commit over 900 hate crimes because Trump got elected. It's right wing extremists who feel emboldened by Trump winning the election going out and thinking it is okay and acceptable to commit violence.

Let me put this to you a different way since science might not be your strong suit. If you've ever been admitted to a hospital, they'll ask for your pain level on a scale from 1-10, 1 being no pain, 10 being excruciating pain...which is a spectrum. Now if I walked in and said "hey patient x, how's your pain today, what number would you describe it at?" And patient x said, "I'd say it's an 8, but I'm not referring to any sort of pain scale." Well that would be a pretty dumb comment since they in fact did refer to a number, but said it wasn't a part of any spectrum, so there would be no context of that number, thus no point in mentioning the number. Which is what you were saying.

Now what you're actually doing...if I came in the room and said "hey patient x, what would you describe your pain level at?" And patient x said "it's an 8." And I said ok I'll give you some morphine. And then patient x said "morphine? Why? It's only an 8, I feel pretty good and don't need morphine." I would say "then why did you say it's an 8? 8 is a pretty high number." And patient x would say "oh that's not the spectrum I use, the spectrum I use is on a scale 1-10 with 1 being super high pain, and 10 being no pain." Which is what you're doing, which is why it's important when you use the term "right wing" to disclose the scale or spectrum you are referring to. If you're calling fascism right wing, under the American spectrum of politics...you would be very wrong, since it's pretty far down on the left of the spectrum since it requires A LOT of government control, vs a constitutionalist being pretty far down on the right wing, and being for very limited government and personal and individualistic freedom as the founders intended.

 

[Billo_Really]

Translation: you made me look like an uninformed fool in my own thread.

If you don't provide evidence to back up your dumbass claim, you make me look like Albert Einstein.

 

[Billo_Really]

So Islam is a religion of terrorism and needs to be eliminated. They ARE in perpetual WAR with unbelievers.

Islam is not an enemy. It's just another way people worship, which, BTW, is none of your god-damn business!

 

[Billo_Really]

It's in the link you lying faggot, there is a list of terror attacks from 1980 to 2005 and next to them there are the number of deaths and injuries which resulted, now bust out your big boy calculator and add up the Muslim committed terror attack deaths and non-Muslim terror attack deaths, then add those together and divide Muslim terror attack deaths by that total number and you get the %.

God it's like talking to a toddler or maybe your eyes are just to full of Muslim cum for you to read it.

Sorry, you need to pony up the reference to 2984 number. Because if you don't, then it is you, who is lying.

 

[Billo_Really]

Sorry bitch, but the last 8 years was the biggest terrorist threat this country ever faced(since 1865). Thank God that the US citizens woke the fuck up and voted out 4 more years of that corruption. I used to wonder why liberals hated the US so much, but watching the tards on this site, they fit in with the rest of the liberal tards. Just plain stupidity of liberalism.

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What was the biggest threat in the last 8 years?

When was the last time you were ever nice to a liberal?

Yet you say we're the ones who hate? Do you even realize how retarded that sounds?

 

[Billo_Really]

Portland Killer Is An Anti-Circumcision, Bernie Sanders Supporter

Jeremy Joseph Christian, the 35-year-old Portland man who allegedly murdered two men and left another critically wounded while yelling anti-Muslim slurs in a knife attack on Friday, has been painted by the mainstream media as a “right-wing extremist,” but posts on his Facebook page indicate he was a supporter of socialist Senator Bernie Sanders and Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

According to screen captures of his Facebook page obtained by Buzzfeed, Christian was not a Trump supporter, as many media outlets claimed, but was a supporter of the idea of a Sanders/Stein ticket.

Sociopaths like you just make the rest of US normal citizens hate you even more. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.

Election Rejection: Liberal Hatred and Hypocrisy Rage in Violence Due to Biased Media | Zero Hedge

Liberals organize for anarchy because of biased media coverage about Trump

Just shows how stupid the liberal ***** on this site really are.

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job

#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!

[/QUOTE]He's not "painted" that way, he IS a right wing extremist. He talks like you; he acts like you; the two of you have similar interests, etc.

He is definitely one of yours.

Liberals don't run around yelling racial slurs at Muslim women.

 

[Billo_Really]

And of couyrse you are full of shit.

Dudette, if you have to constantly lie to yourself in order to justify your political viewpoints, perhaps changing your viewpoints would make more sense than changing the facts if you wish to stay connected with realityland.

What did I lie about?

 

[Billo_Really]

You are stuck on stupid. Saddam broke numerous UN resolutions and surrender terms. The war wasn't illegal and liberals do not get to override whatever they want for political gain. You think Hillary voted for an illegal war, fine, run with that and be a dope.

But Iraq and illegal aliens aren't related in a lucid mind. Your million number is fake, pretty much like all your beliefs. I feel sorry for you, your mind has been hijacked and owned. You are told what to think and they use you for their political aims.

I'll give you a $1000 if you can show me one UN resolution on Iraq that contained the words "regime change". Just two little words and you got a cool G.

I'm waiting...

...still waiting...

 

[Billo_Really]

I'm not paid to handle maggots so you have no fear of me. I need not soil my hands. We pay people to deal with garbage in the streets. That's why we hire big burley cops to kneel on your scrawny necks. You aren't capable of learning or understanding that leftists are not the only ones with rights so it's really the only way society can deal with the likes of you.

What rights do I have? You think you have the right to hire fat cops to kneel on my neck? I know I don't have rights like that. You think conspiracy to commit violence is a right?

 

[Billo_Really]

Like Germany? Yeah we should have left Hitler alone and watched the war effort stoned on our couches instead. It sickens me that so many good men died so we could listen to some self righteous asshole spew their garbage years later.

Germany was a real threat. Another way people pray, is not.

 

[Billo_Really]

The news, you liberals are a Looney bunch. Figured out which bathroom to use today?

You made a claim, back it up, bitch!

 

[Iceweasel]

You are stuck on stupid. Saddam broke numerous UN resolutions and surrender terms. The war wasn't illegal and liberals do not get to override whatever they want for political gain. You think Hillary voted for an illegal war, fine, run with that and be a dope.

But Iraq and illegal aliens aren't related in a lucid mind. Your million number is fake, pretty much like all your beliefs. I feel sorry for you, your mind has been hijacked and owned. You are told what to think and they use you for their political aims.

I'll give you a $1000 if you can show me one UN resolution on Iraq that contained the words "regime change". Just two little words and you got a cool G.

I'm waiting...

...still waiting...

Huh? You changed the subject then make demands? You stupid dishonest shithead.

 

[Billo_Really]

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
-Hitler 1927

Hitler had control of economy, controlled wages to workers. Instituted socialized medicine, and free day care for all, as well as free education. And straight up took control of industries and business, and created government ran benifits, as well as food stamp programs, etc, given out liberally to the population he wasn't exterminating. Ever hear of Volkswagen... "Volks" (the people) "Wagen" (car)...the people's car. Or the Autobahn, that was a government program to get the masses back to work, much like FDRs socialist policies. He also implemented gun control. That's socialism for ya. Often Hitler's domestic policies were overlooked by the whole Eugenic cleansing, and world domination type policies. And just because there was plenty of nationalism in Nazi germany to go around, doesn't mean that there wasn't any socialism. You don't have to be one or the other, hybrid governments exist, look at China. And just because Hitler wasn't a "democratic socialist" doesn't mean he wasn't a socialist, sure him and Bernie would disagree on a good bit (mostly the Eugenics, and domination stuff). But, Lenin I believe coined the term "democratic socialist," (if he didn't coin it, he certainly described himself that way) and look how that turned out.

And how many times do I have to explain this. If you're referring to the European spectrum, where what we call libertarian is in the middle, and communism is far left, and fascism is far right, then yes it is far right. In that system it's best to look at it like a U shape with the Y axis representing increasing government control, with libertarianism at the bottom of the U. Remember a liberal in Europe is very different from a "liberal" in America. A liberal in Europe is what we call libertarian. If you're referring to the American system (which it sounds like you are), from right to left is increasing government control, with communism on one end (left) and anarchy on the other end (right). Then NO, it is not far right, since fascism requires a great deal of government control.

This thread isn't about the difference between Europe and the US.

 

[Billo_Really]

IF YOUR CALLING IT RIGHT WING THEN YOU HAVE TO BE REFERRING TO SOME SORT OF SPECTRUM. If it's not a spectrum than the term right wing means absolutely nothing, unless there is somewhere different someone else could fall in a spectrum, say left wing. There is a color spectrum, for different wavelengths of light, I CANT CALL SOMETHING RED, AND THEN SAY IM NOT REFERRING TO THE ANY SORT OF COLOR SPECTRUM. That is exactly what you did there.

If you call something "RED", you could be referring to a communist.

You can't have simple definitions to complex problems.

 

[Billo_Really]

Your own article says that it's not true, especially when it is admittedly leaving out the two biggest terrorist attacks. How in the world do you think it's ok to keep glossing over that fact?

My own article says what is not true?

 

[Billo_Really]

Let me put this to you a different way since science might not be your strong suit. If you've ever been admitted to a hospital, they'll ask for your pain level on a scale from 1-10, 1 being no pain, 10 being excruciating pain...which is a spectrum. Now if I walked in and said "hey patient x, how's your pain today, what number would you describe it at?" And patient x said, "I'd say it's an 8, but I'm not referring to any sort of pain scale." Well that would be a pretty dumb comment since they in fact did refer to a number, but said it wasn't a part of any spectrum, so there would be no context of that number, thus no point in mentioning the number. Which is what you were saying.

Now what you're actually doing...if I came in the room and said "hey patient x, what would you describe your pain level at?" And patient x said "it's an 8." And I said ok I'll give you some morphine. And then patient x said "morphine? Why? It's only an 8, I feel pretty good and don't need morphine." I would say "then why did you say it's an 8? 8 is a pretty high number." And patient x would say "oh that's not the spectrum I use, the spectrum I use is on a scale 1-10 with 1 being super high pain, and 10 being no pain." Which is what you're doing, which is why it's important when you use the term "right wing" to disclose the scale or spectrum you are referring to. If you're calling fascism right wing, under the American spectrum of politics...you would be very wrong, since it's pretty far down on the left of the spectrum since it requires A LOT of government control, vs a constitutionalist being pretty far down on the right wing, and being for very limited government and personal and individualistic freedom as the founders intended.

What you're trying to do, is replace my definition of pain, with your definition of pain. Which is rather strange, because you won't even take the time to find out what my definition of pain is. You just want it replaced at all costs.

 

[Billo_Really]

Huh? You changed the subject then make demands? You stupid dishonest shithead.

You tried to justify the invasion of Iraq by saying Hussein broke UN resolutions and I simply asked you to show me one resolution that contained the words "regime change". There weren't any, because the UN did not authorize the removal of Saddam Hussein and it wasn't Bush's call to make that decision.

By your logic, should we invade Israel? They've broken over a hundred more UN resolutions than Iraq did.