74 school shootings in 77 weeks...Worth it's own thread.

[Lonestar_logic]

You asked when the last time was. Go ahead move the goal posts though now that your ridiculous premise was squashed. How many police station shootings do you want to be shown?

Not moving anything. I asked you answered. I asked another question. How many you ask? Enough to make a fair comparison and to show that gun free zones are not ideal target locations.

Gun free zones are ridiculous and do nothing. They should be abolished. Next...

That I will agree with. Gun free zones should be abolished and every lawful citizen should have the right to carry a firearm.

 

[RDD_1210]

I'm not going to hunt for you alleged list. But it's probably safe to say I wouldn't agree with any of it.

Of course you wouldn't. You're not a reasonable person. How could someone that is ok with children being murdered in school be considered someone to have a rational discussion.

A reasonable person would realize the list you put together is a pipe dream. Here's a little fact that you idiots can't seem to accept. Criminals do not OBEY the law. So what makes you think that more laws will make a bit of difference?

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones. Its why every other 1st world nation has lower gun death rates than we do.

If criminals dont obey laws, should I assume you are in favor of overturning laws that outlaw rape and child porn? I mean, criminals are going to do those things anyway, right?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/359070-the-only-laws-that-will-disarm-criminals-is-a-total-ban-followed-by-confiscation-3.html#post9247378

There is my proposal.

I was right. I don't agree with any of them.

And I was right, you're a selfish ignorant asshole who isn't capable of rational discussion. You're probably an ex-con and/or mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun anyway. I can see why you're so scared.

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[rightwinger]

I was right. I don't agree with any of them.

And I was right, you're a selfish ignorant asshole who isn't capable of rational discussion. You're probably an ex-con and/or mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun anyway. I can see why you're so scared.

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

Whose rights did you strip away when you became a con?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course you wouldn't. You're not a reasonable person. How could someone that is ok with children being murdered in school be considered someone to have a rational discussion.

A reasonable person would realize the list you put together is a pipe dream. Here's a little fact that you idiots can't seem to accept. Criminals do not OBEY the law. So what makes you think that more laws will make a bit of difference?

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones. Its why every other 1st world nation has lower gun death rates than we do.

If criminals dont obey laws, should I assume you are in favor of overturning laws that outlaw rape and child porn? I mean, criminals are going to do those things anyway, right?

Comparing other countries to the US is disingenuous because the rates are calculated differently.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones.

That's certainly true.

For example, if we were to implement a law that said everybody could carry, most people still wouldn't bother. But a few still would... and some guy contemplating knocking over a store or mugging an old lady, or shooting up a shopping mall, would know most people didn't have a gun... but somewhere in the crowd, a few did. And so he'd ber a lot more likely to turn around and walk away without doing anything.

All we need, is that law saying anybody can carry.

Oops, I guess we already made that law. It's in the Bill of Rights.

So it looks like we need one more requirement: We have to OBEY the laws we made.

 

[Stephanie]

ran across this...the dishonest with the gun control people is astounding and shameful









Media

‘Wow’: Journalist Attempts to ‘Debunk’ Anti-Gun Group’s List of ‘School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook’ — Here’s What He Found

?Wow?: Journalist Attempts to ?Debunk? Anti-Gun Group?s List of ?School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook? ? Here?s What He Found | TheBlaze.com



snip:


The list there:

Another fake shooting listed by Everytown gun map was drug related, not on campus.Suspect arrested in fatal shooting near Morehouse College - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5 #RHShooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake shooting listed by everytown. A gunman ran onto campus, was chased by police, shot student accidentally. Shooting reported at Indian River State College in Fort Pierce / PHOTO GALLERY » TCPalm.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. 19-year-old shot in elementary parking lot over dice game at 9 PM. Leads but no suspects in fatal shooting at San Leandro elementary school | abc7news.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. Gang-involved student accidentally shot herself in thigh. Student who shot herself at Grady High due in court | www.ajc.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014
Another fake school shooting by everytown. UCF college student committed suicide in public.UCF police: Seevakumaran planned to use 'Molotov cocktails' on fellow students - Orlando Sentinel

— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson)June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Teen committed suicide.Teen commits suicide at middle school in Southgate - Fox 2 News Headlines
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson)June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Off campus, gang-related shooting in NC.2 teens charged in shooting of Elizabeth City State Univ. student | WVEC.com Norfolk - Hampton Roads
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by #everytown. Student shoots friend over money they owe for illegal gambling. Fight Over Money Leads To Shooting at Stillman College - ABC 33/40 - Birmingham News, Weather, Sports
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. Honors student shoots self in front of class.Cincinnati student hospitalized after shooting himself
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Northwest High School principal shot by her ex-husband on campus. Schools React To Asst. Principal's Shooting Death - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Student killed because of gang activity.Three Men Arrested In Deadly North Panola High Shooting | WREG.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Yet another fake school shooting by Everytown. Student shoots another student over dispute over Nintendo Wii payment. Carver High School shooting suspect in court; victim talks | Piedmont - WXII Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang-related, student fist fight becomes gun fight.Student shot at Savannah State in good condition | AccessNorthGa
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Crazy man shoots himself at high school, never went to school. Police release name of teen who shot himself during homecoming festivities in Gray ? Lewiston-Auburn ? Bangor Daily News ? BDN Maine
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Nearly halfway there… Another fake Everytown school shooting. Student kills self in class.Student Commits Suicide At Lanier High School In Austin, Texas
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Ex-high school student kills self in parking lot.Algona school grounds death apparently self-inflicted
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang-related drive by is now a mass shooting?1 shot at North Carolina A&T State University
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake shooting by Everytown. Gang-related crossfire hits bystander.Stephenson High Student Shot at School - Police & Fire - Stone Mountain-Lithonia, GA Patch
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Professor kills self on campus.Mines professor apparently commits suicide on campus
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang banger shoots another student in face.Student shot in face at West Orange High School | News - Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Fae school shooting listed by Everytown was gang initiation in Fresno. Arrest made in Edison High School shooting | abc30.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. MLK elementary school shooting was drive by. Police: Shot fired at elementary school playground | Lancaster News - WGAL Home #RHshooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Fake school shooting listed by Everytown & promoted by media was gang related in Killadelphia charter school. 2 Students Shot Inside Philadelphia High School, Teen Turns Himself In | NBC Bay Area
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

School shooting listed by Everytown map was gang-related dispute at Widener University.Classes to resume at Widener University after shooting | Local - Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Everytown calls Cesar Chavez High School a “school shooting”; police call it a gang turf war.Phoenix police make 4 arrests in Chavez High School shooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” listed by Everytown in South Caroline State University was argument that got out of hand & was off campus.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Can’t find any evidence that supposed “school shooting” at Grambling, LA on January 28, 2014 listed by Everytown even occurred.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Wow. “School shooting” listed by Everytown at Eastern Florida State College was actually self-defense. Shooting on Fla. campus may have been self-defense
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” listed by Everytown at North High School, IA in Des Moines was gang-related, in parking lot. Police investigate shooting outside North High School | Local News - KCCI Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Salisbury High School, NC “school shooting” listed by Everytown was gang-related, accidentally. Suspect charged in Salisbury High shooting | Salisbury Post
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” at Brush High School, OR listed by Everytown was after hours, off campus, over a girl. Ban girls? Police: Two boys charged in Brush High School shooting may have fired shots at man over girl | cleveland.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Union University “school shooting” listed by Everytown gun map was guy shooting his fiancee in parking lot. Staged it to look like suicide.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” at Raytown Success Academy, MO was in parking lot, not school related.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

from;
CNN Slashes School Shooting Stats Claim By 80 Percent

 

[Little-Acorn]

After Tuesday's shooting at an Oregon high school, many media outlets, including CNN, reported that there have been

on Wednesday, CNN took a closer look at the list,

Seldom is flat incompetence confessed so openly.

"Ready, fire, aim."

 

[Little-Acorn]

ran across this...the dishonest with the gun control people is astounding and shameful

Media

‘Wow’: Journalist Attempts to ‘Debunk’ Anti-Gun Group’s List of ‘School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook’ — Here’s What He Found

?Wow?: Journalist Attempts to ?Debunk? Anti-Gun Group?s List of ?School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook? ? Here?s What He Found | TheBlaze.com

snip:
The list there:

Another fake shooting listed by Everytown gun map was drug related, not on campus.Suspect arrested in fatal shooting near Morehouse College - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5 #RHShooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

You were expecting honesty, from people who can only make their agenda look good by lying about it?

.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

And I was right, you're a selfish ignorant asshole who isn't capable of rational discussion. You're probably an ex-con and/or mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun anyway. I can see why you're so scared.

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

Whose rights did you strip away when you became a con?

No ones.

 

[Ernie S.]

And still, you refuse to look at the root cause of these tragedies. Hint: it's not guns.

Bullets?


Of course if you walk into a school with a handful of bullets and start hurling them at children, you're not going to kill anyone.

So it seems that you're incorrect, guns are as much a part of the problem as the bullets they fire.

Better luck next time.

I own, let's just say, more than 10 and less than 100 firearms and thousands of rounds of ammunition. None has compelled me to walk into a school and open fire.
I compel my weapons to fire a bullet towards a target, a furry animal or a human intruder at my will, not theirs.
Saying guns cause school shootings is like saying alcohol causes pregnancy.
The cause of school shootings is school shooters.

 

[mudwhistle]

74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.

School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12

The shooting at Northwest here in Clarksville had nothing to do with students.

They found a body of a 38 yr old man in the school parking lot at 6am.


I sense a bit of piling on.......Body found in parking lot of Clarksville high school - WKRN News 2

Anyone that thinks NoTeaPartyPleez would be honest is a fool.


He/she is nothing but a parrot reciting the lefts talking points like a good little sheep.

Ralph Bristol has a regular guest, a former FBI agent, on his radio talk show, and he repeated this 74 talking point like it was fact.

It's hard to weed through the bull shit these days.

 

[RDD_1210]

I was right. I don't agree with any of them.

And I was right, you're a selfish ignorant asshole who isn't capable of rational discussion. You're probably an ex-con and/or mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun anyway. I can see why you're so scared.

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you were involved in a violent crime not only should you not be allowed to sell guns you shouldn't be allowed to possess one.

 

[rightwinger]

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

Whose rights did you strip away when you became a con?

No ones.

Must have been "some other dude" or a crooked judge who was out to get you

 

[Lonestar_logic]

And I was right, you're a selfish ignorant asshole who isn't capable of rational discussion. You're probably an ex-con and/or mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun anyway. I can see why you're so scared.

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you were involved in a violent crime not only should you not be allowed to sell guns you shouldn't be allowed to possess one.

I was convicted of a violent crime. I was given five years on an assault w/intent conviction. I was incarcerated for nearly three years and then paroled. In the early 80's I was granted a full pardon and had my records expunged thank to Gov. Mark White.

 

[RDD_1210]

A reasonable person would realize the list you put together is a pipe dream. Here's a little fact that you idiots can't seem to accept. Criminals do not OBEY the law. So what makes you think that more laws will make a bit of difference?

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones. Its why every other 1st world nation has lower gun death rates than we do.

If criminals dont obey laws, should I assume you are in favor of overturning laws that outlaw rape and child porn? I mean, criminals are going to do those things anyway, right?

Comparing other countries to the US is disingenuous because the rates are calculated differently.

LOL, says who? You?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Whose rights did you strip away when you became a con?

No ones.

Must have been "some other dude" or a crooked judge who was out to get you

I pled guilty to the charges.

 

[RDD_1210]

I am an ex-con. However my records have been expunged. I now co-own a gun store and possess an FFL and can legally buy class III weapons.

What scares me are idiots like you that wish to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you were involved in a violent crime not only should you not be allowed to sell guns you shouldn't be allowed to possess one.

I was convicted of a violent crime. I was given five years on an assault w/intent conviction. I was incarcerated for nearly three years and then paroled. In the early 80's I was granted a full pardon and had my records expunged thank to Gov. Mark White.

Pardoned because you didn't do it?

 

[RDD_1210]

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones.

That's certainly true.

For example, if we were to implement a law that said everybody could carry, most people still wouldn't bother. But a few still would... and some guy contemplating knocking over a store or mugging an old lady, or shooting up a shopping mall, would know most people didn't have a gun... but somewhere in the crowd, a few did. And so he'd ber a lot more likely to turn around and walk away without doing anything.

All we need, is that law saying anybody can carry.

Oops, I guess we already made that law. It's in the Bill of Rights.

So it looks like we need one more requirement: We have to OBEY the laws we made.

Cute story. What color is the sky on your planet?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Because laws do work if you implement the right ones.

That's certainly true.

For example, if we were to implement a law that said everybody could carry, most people still wouldn't bother. But a few still would... and some guy contemplating knocking over a store or mugging an old lady, or shooting up a shopping mall, would know most people didn't have a gun... but somewhere in the crowd, a few did. And so he'd be a lot more likely to turn around and walk away without doing anything.

All we need, is that law saying anybody can carry.

Oops, I guess we already made that law. It's in the Bill of Rights.

So it looks like we need one more requirement: We have to OBEY the laws we made.

Cute story. What color is the sky on your planet?

Apparently when a liberal gets refuted, he starts ranting hysterically like this.

Help is available.