A challenge to our liberals re: the “crime” the NY County DA may indict Trump on.

[Billiejeens]

Prostitution is a crime as is being a John to use their services. But it ain’t a felony. So no grand jury would be needed. And the statute of limitations on any misdemeanor has long since run over anything to do with Stormy Daniels.

You're really trying to have an honest discussion with that one?

 

[Billiejeens]

How American as apple pie was it for Joe Biden to collect a cool $35,000,000 from the CCP???

Democrat apple pie.

 

[Kilroy2]

From Russian spy, to porn star screwin' campaign finance misdemeanor.

How the mighty Leftist litigation aspirations have fallen.

Yet the rights litigation is based on who is the "Big Guy"

Can't wait to see the petition State VS the Big Guy

 

[BackAgain]

Since Farty declines to man up, I reviewed the actual NY Law. As I suspected, Farty didn’t understand the law (if he even bothered to find it or read it).

The law he mistakenly grasps is the actual NY State Criminal Procedure Law section 30.10(4)(a) which says:

4. In calculating the time limitation applicable to commencement of a criminal action, the following periods shall not be included:

(a) Any period following the commission of the offense during which (i) the defendant was continuously outside this state or (ii) the whereabouts of the defendant were continuously unknown and continuously unascertainable by the exercise of reasonable diligence.  However, in no event shall the period of limitation be extended by more than five years beyond the period otherwise applicable under subdivision two.

Apparently Farts doesn’t grasp “continuously.”

 

[BackAgain]

The crime has been described to you multiple times.

Falsification of business records. Not tax filings.

Great. So then it’s already time barred.

 

[Marener]

Great. So then it’s already time barred.

It’s not. They have until mid summer if im not mistaken.

 

[BackAgain]

Changing the subject are we by making an irrelevant point.

The Grand Jury will decide this on violation of NY laws. That is so obvious so please stop trying to deflect and change the subject. This is based on the company and who in the company made the decisions. You can fine the organization but you can't put the organization in jail. Only the person or people involved in that organization. who made the decisions to violate some law. Still the Federal government refused to prosecute the sitting president. Thus as Trump made this decision in his capacity in the company.

Statue of limitations Good attempt but unless you know the law concerning it then it just wishful thinking.

NY law says that statue of limitation time frames can be paused if the defendant is outside the state. So when Trump was in Washington for 4 years and that time is subtracted out of the statue of limitation number. So they got the time to still do it.

Good try but your in over you head.

Well you can still hold out that NY will not pursue it or the Grand Jury will reject it.

You miss the point. The Grand Jury is presented evidence by the DA. And it is the DA which provides the legal instructions to the Grand Jury. Therefore, it is the DA who determines which charge or which charges to submit for the consideration of the Grand Jurors.

It is that selection process I’m focusing on. Your ignorance notwithstanding.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

You miss the point.

Break your guitar over his head.

TOGA!

 

[BackAgain]

It’s not. They have until mid summer if im not mistaken.

You are mistaken.

The date of the payment for the non disclosure agreement was Oct. 27, 2016

See: Q&A on Stormy Daniels' Payment - FactCheck.org

Add five years (the length of the period of limitations) and you come to 10/27/2021. The statute of limitations deadline has come and gone.

The claim that it got “tolled” because Trump moved to Florida is ruined by the fact that he wasn’t continually absent from the state of NY. Hell, he has property here. He’s not hard to find.

 

[Kilroy2]

You miss the point. The Grand Jury is presented evidence by the DA. And it is the DA which provides the legal instructions to the Grand Jury. Therefore, it is the DA who determines which charge or which charges to submit for the consideration of the Grand Jurors.

It is that selection process I’m focusing on. Your ignorance notwithstanding.

Your the one who brought up the federal angle indication that the state court system cannot hear violations in federal law.

if you meant the DA then you should have stated that. Still what is the point you trying to make by stating the obvious with the DA .angle.

Hey if you don/t have a solid counter arguments , don't fell obligated to respond.

 

[BackAgain]

Your the one who brought up the federal angle indication that the state court system cannot hear violations in federal law.

if you meant the DA then you should have stated that. Still what is the point you trying to make by stating the obvious with the DA .angle.

Hey if you don/t have a solid counter arguments , don't fell obligated to respond.

You are confused. Or lying. I have asked solely about the State law crime charge. And my pointing out that a local DA lacks jurisdiction to prosecute an alleged federal crime was in response to a post by another member (due to his failure to distinguish a federal tax offense from a state tax offense).

I can’t help your inability to comprehend.

 

[Kilroy2]

You are mistaken.

The date of the payment for the non disclosure agreement was Oct. 27, 2016

See: Q&A on Stormy Daniels' Payment - FactCheck.org

Add five years (the length of the period of limitations) and you come to 10/27/2021. The statute of limitations deadline has come and gone.

The claim that it got “tolled” because Trump moved to Florida is ruined by the fact that he wasn’t continually absent from the state of NY. Hell, he has property here. He’s not hard to find.

Yet you do not understand the statue of limitations. Trump residents was Washington DC for 4 years. Those 4 years do not count into the deadline computation. So there are only 3 years that have past. They have 1 more year to move this to the next stage or the statue of limitations will end.

Be informed

 

[BackAgain]

You're really trying to have an honest discussion with that one?

It does seem futile. Truth isn’t one of his strong suits. In fact, he has no cards in that suit.

 

[Kilroy2]

You are confused. Or lying. I have asked solely about the State law crime charge. And my pointing out that a local DA lacks jurisdiction to prosecute an alleged federal crime was in response to a post by another member (due to his failure to distinguish a federal tax offense from a state tax offense).

I can’t help your inability to comprehend.

Yet the response was directed at my post. I can understand that your getting bombarded here but you did ask for it.

 

[BackAgain]

Yet you do not understand the statue of limitations. Trump residents was Washington DC for 4 years. Those 4 years do not count into the deadline computation. So there are only 3 years that have past. They have 1 more year to move this to the next stage or the statue of limitations will end.

Be informed

You’re ignorant. Trump voted out of New York. That was obviously and unquestionably his legal residence until he moved to Florida after ditching NY state.

And every day of his tenure counts into the computation. You’re not permitted to just make shit up. Well, you can try. But you’re flatly wrong. And the prosecutor isn’t likely to try your baselsss nonsense in court because no way would a judge credit it.

They are already out of time.

Maybe learn to know what your posting about before hitting the old “post reply” button, you jackass.

 

[BackAgain]

Yet the response was directed at my post. I can understand that you’re getting bombarded here but you did ask for it.

I’m not confused. You are.

And your ignorance is all on you.

You can’t even grunt out a coherent complaint about anything I’ve posted.

 

[Marener]

You are mistaken.

The date of the payment for the non disclosure agreement was Oct. 27, 2016

See: Q&A on Stormy Daniels' Payment - FactCheck.org

Add five years (the length of the period of limitations) and you come to 10/27/2021. The statute of limitations deadline has come and gone.

The claim that it got “tolled” because Trump moved to Florida is ruined by the fact that he wasn’t continually absent from the state of NY. Hell, he has property here. He’s not hard to find.

Worry not. I’m smarter than you.

The criminal scheme wasn’t just the payment I Daniels, it was also the repayment to Cohen and falsification of records.

Trump repaid Cohen as late as August 2017.

President Trump’s checks repaying Michael Cohen for hush money, explained

The checks themselves don’t prove a crime, but they could be one piece of evidence in a potential case against Trump.

www.vox.com

The statute of limitations was also tolled, but not because he was out of state but because of COVID. All statute of limitations were extended about 6-7 months.

Governor Cuomo’s “Tolling” of New York Statutes of Limitation Has Ended, But What Did It Accomplish?

Statutes of limitation were “tolled” in New York by Executive Order No. 202.8, issued by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo on March 20, 2020 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Over the next six-and-a-half months, that toll was renewed by further executive order every 30 days until, on October 4...

www.natlawreview.com

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Worry not. I’m smarter than you.

Oh thank goodness.

I was waiting for your reassurance.

The relief is overwhelming.

 

[rightwinger]

Link??? You don't know? You fuckers live with your pin heads solidly poked up your ample rectums, you do not know about the Bidens and their direct linkage to agents of the CCP, seriously?

Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens

The Biden family has done five deals in China totaling some $31 million arranged by individuals with direct ties to Chinese intelligence — some reaching the very top of China’s spy agency.

nypost.com

Ok

Show any law that has been broken

 

[BackAgain]

Worry not. I’m smarter than you.

Well, that’s ^ an obvious lie. Not a matter of worry.

The criminal scheme wasn’t just the payment I Daniels, it was also the repayment to Cohen and falsification of records.

Oh. Really. That was the “scheme?” And your basis for saying that is … missing entirely. Of course.

Trump repaid Cohen as late as August 2017.

Repaying a person isn’t a crime.

President Trump’s checks repaying Michael Cohen for hush money, explained

The checks themselves don’t prove a crime, but they could be one piece of evidence in a potential case against Trump.

www.vox.com

The statute of limitations was also tolled, but not because he was out of state but because of COVID. All statute of limitations were extended about 6-7 months.

Governor Cuomo’s “Tolling” of New York Statutes of Limitation Has Ended, But What Did It Accomplish?

Statutes of limitation were “tolled” in New York by Executive Order No. 202.8, issued by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo on March 20, 2020 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Over the next six-and-a-half months, that toll was renewed by further executive order every 30 days until, on October 4...

www.natlawreview.com

I don’t think that changes a thing since even if that COVID tolling period were applicable to an as yet uncharged crime, it is arguable that it only tolled the filing period.

“Defendants looking to dismiss claims as untimely will likely argue that the executive orders had no impact on the limitations periods and only gave plaintiffs a grace period on filing—a grace period that ended in November 2020.” See, Governor Cuomo’s “Tolling” of New York Statutes of Limitation Has Ended, But What Did It Accomplish?

Obviously, a judge will have to decide (if the NY County DA does secure and file and indictment). And if the judge (as often happens) sides with the prosecutor in interpreting the Cuomo tolling order, then the case might proceed to trial. If a conviction were to ensue, higher courts would entertain that appellate issue.

But you have managed to finally cobble together at least a colorable argument.