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Oh, of that crime you claimed Trump committed, that was not committed, and then the crime you claim that Cohen committed that Trump is charged with?Fraudulent not meaning the checks bounded, but fraudulent meaning the checks where to cover illegal activity.
WW
Elektra, refer to How Michael Cohen broke campaign finance law | PBS News .Oh, of that crime you claimed Trump committed, that was not committed, and then the crime you claim that Cohen committed that Trump is charged with?
The checks were legal, the non-disclosure agreement was legal, being Trump running against Democrats, illegal.
Oh, of that crime you claimed Trump committed, that was not committed, and then the crime you claim that Cohen committed that Trump is charged with?
The checks were legal, the non-disclosure agreement was legal, being Trump running against Democrats, illegal.
Yet, for 25 posts, 25 comments you made, you claimed Trump committed a crime. Now that it is firmly established that Trump did not commit said crime, you claim it was cohen's crime Trump is charged with trying to cover up. You are claiming that Trump tried to cover up a crime by writing traceable checks? Not only writing the checks but recording them?#2 The "other crime" need not be committed by Trump the conspiracy could be the commission of the crime by one or more others with Trumps involvment being the motivation or element in the other crime.
Yet, for 25 posts, 25 comments you made, you claimed Trump committed a crime. Now that it is firmly established that Trump did not commit said crime, you claim it was cohen's crime Trump is charged with trying to cover up. You are claiming that Trump tried to cover up a crime by writing traceable checks? Not only writing the checks but recording them?
WW, argued with me for over 25 posts, adamant that you knew exactly what you were talking about yet now we all see you change what happened?
A conspiracy? A conspiracy neither party was charged with?
Trump you claim is charged with concealing Cohen's crime, yet it does not say that anywhere in the indictment.
Trump you now claim, tried to conceal the crime but the only evidence is checks which does the opposite of concealing a crime, checks would expose a crime had one occurred.
WW, are you sure you are right now. You are not going to change who committed what crime or what that crime was?
WW, how about posting the indictment, the Cohen indictment. I bet that if we get to read the indictment, we will find out that this has nothing to do with Trump.
ah, more condescending replies from supposn. Why would you project and speculate what I have an interest in? Beyond my ability to comprehend? What makes you so much smarter than me.Elektra, refer to How Michael Cohen broke campaign finance law | PBS News .
You apparently have no interest in reading any part of those instructions and/or they're beyond your ability to comprehend them. Respectfully, Supposn
Why were you wrong for over 25 posts? What made you realize the supposn mistake you had made? Where is Cohen's indictment proving that Trump was involved with Cohen's crime. Where does it state anywhere that Cohen's crimes is the crime in question.Trump did commit a crime. 34 of them. He’s been convicted.
WW
Elektra, Michael Cohen was found guilty of a crime he committed direct or indirectly urged ,by Trump and/or his associates. Trump and/or his organization compensated Cohen and additionally repaid him for the expenses necessary for the commission of the crime.Why were you wrong for over 25 posts? What made you realize the supposn mistake you had made? Where is Cohen's indictment proving that Trump was involved with Cohen's crime. Where does it state anywhere that Cohen's crimes is the crime in question.
You can not answer, will not answer, because you do not have any facts.
Never in history was anyone charged each time they wrote a check and recorded it, to their lawyer. Never.
Except of course, non of this was proven. Non of this was proven to have direct ties or indirect ties to Trump. If this is now the standard of guilt our Justice system is no longer functioning.Elektra, Michael Cohen was found guilty of a crime he committed direct or indirectly urged ,by Trump and/or his associates. Trump and/or his organization compensated Cohen and additionally repaid him for the expenses necessary for the commission of the crime.
thank youI decided not to waste my time for the reasons I stated. You would deny them, attack the sources, etc. You are exactly what Trump looks for in a cult member. You are not well in the head.
Read the jury instructionsElektra, Michael Cohen was found guilty of a crime he committed direct or indirectly urged ,by Trump and/or his associates. Trump and/or his organization compensated Cohen and additionally repaid him for the expenses necessary for the commission of the crime.
Excerpted from the link:
How Michael Cohen broke campaign finance law | PBS News
“… The case has some parallels to the federal campaign finance prosecution of former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a two-time Democratic presidential candidate. Edwards was indicted in 2011 on charges that he was part of a scheme during his 2008 campaign to have two of his supporters spend almost $1 million to conceal an affair.
Prosecutors argued that the payments were tantamount to illegal campaign contributions, but the Justice Department eventually dropped its case against Edwards after trial jurors deadlocked on five of the criminal counts against him and acquitted him on the sixth …” .
You apparently have no interest in reading any part of those instructions and/or they're beyond your ability to comprehend them. Respectfully, Supposn
Elektra, you post your fantasies of what you wish were the facts.Except of course, non of this was proven. Non of this was proven to have direct ties or indirect ties to Trump. If this is now the standard of guilt our Justice system is no longer functioning. ...
... The only thing that will stop lawyers, judges, the supreme court from hearing this case is intimidation and the real threat of violence.
We already see the supreme court be harassed, intimidated, and threatened.
I Suppose it is you with fantasies and without facts.Elektra, you post your fantasies of what you wish were the facts.
Cohen was tried and found guilty.
Elektra, I sit corrected before my keyboard.I Suppose it is you with fantasies and without facts.
The most important fact in this case is Cohen.
Cohen was not tried.
Cohen plead guilty.
Supposn, you presented fantasy.
Your opinion is of no relevance. You stated a crime was proven, it has not been proven. Any crime that you think Trump committed, must be proven. To claim that because Cohen pleaded guilty hence that proves that Trump was guilty of the alleged crime denies Trump of due process.Elektra, I sit corrected before my keyboard.
As you posted, Michael Cohen did choose to plead out rather than attempting to plead innocent before a Jury.
Among the charges he pleaded guilty of, was his receiving payment from Donald Trump's organization for his services and expenses to acquire nondisclosure agreements on behalf of Donald Trump. The purpose of obtaining those agreement was to influence the 2016 general elections. The cost of obtaining those agreements exceeded the legal maximum value of a contribution for a candidate campaign for a federal elected office,
If that accusation wasn't true or provable, Cohen had the option of pleading guilty on all other of the indictment's charges and facing a jury on the charges related to the nondisclosure agreement.
Your post is an example of what's meant by a difference of little or no distinction”. Respectfully, Supposn
34 convictions inform everyone on his guilty status.Your opinion is of no relevance. You stated a crime was proven, it has not been proven. Any crime that you think Trump committed, must be proven. To claim that because Cohen pleaded guilty hence that proves that Trump was guilty of the alleged crime denies Trump of due process.
Your opinion is of no relevance. You stated a crime was proven, it has not been proven. Any crime that you think Trump committed, must be proven. To claim that because Cohen pleaded guilty hence that proves that Trump was guilty of the alleged crime denies Trump of due process.
Supposn, you are dictating guilt without a trial.Elektra, you're not pretending to be illogical? Michael Cohen admitted his guilt in court because otherwise it would be proven before a jury. The crime was an in-kind contribution for the election of Donald Trump, that exceeded the legal maximum value of such a contribution.
Only in Marxist regimes34 convictions inform everyone on his guilty status.
Supposn, you are dictating guilt without a trial.
Supposn, you are telling us why Cohen pleaded, when only Cohen knows the reason.
Supposn, the entire United States now understand that democrats are the same as Stalin Communists who jailed the innocent based on dictating they were guilty.
