About the dire warnings of a second Trump presidency.

[Billiejeens]

Is Trump someone you admire?

Already asked and answered.

 

[berg80]

The driving force is the false reality that the echo chamber of the Democrat Media bubble has created and maintained for multiple generations.
You take a failed education system, reinforce it over and over and over -
You have a country that functions at a much less than optimal level.

You display your detachment from reality with every post.

 

[DBA]

Do you believe all those former Trump officials are lying? If so, why?

Why did former CIA officials lie to protect Biden in the 2020 election? Could be the same reason.

 

[berg80]

Obviously, that doesn't say what you want it to say.

It says exactly what I said it says.

 

[berg80]

Why did former CIA officials lie to protect Biden in the 2020 election? Could be the same reason.

They didn't. You should find out what they actually wrote.

 

[Billiejeens]

You display your detachment from reality with every post.

I present as someone who doesn't believe in the ideas that your echo chamber has indoctrinated you with.

 

[Billiejeens]

It says exactly what I said it says.

You didn't state what you think that it says.

 

[surada]

Already asked and answered.

This guy......

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4736777-trump-campaign-criticizes-jail/

I want you to remember what they did to me. They tortured me in the Fulton County Jail, and TOOK MY MUGSHOT. So guess what? I put it on a mug for the WHOLE WORLD TO SEE!” the fundraising email said.

 

[berg80]

I present as someone who doesn't believe in the ideas that your echo chamber has indoctrinated you with.

You present as someone who believes the lies you foment every day on this board. Virtually nothing that makes up your system of beliefs is true.

 

[Auld Phart]

You display your detachment from reality with every post.

 

[Billiejeens]

You present as someone who believes the lies you foment every day on this board. Virtually nothing that makes up your system of beliefs is true.

You literally have never been able to actually refute any facts.

 

[berg80]

You didn't state what you think that it says.

"After all, we already know Trump believes as prez he is above the law."

Surely you aren't denying he is claiming absolute immunity from prosecution for anything he did as prez, are you? Can you be that detached from reality? Wait.........of course you can.

 

[hadit]

They are out there and they are out there in droves. The people who are making them come from all quarters, including former members of his first administration.

Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House​

NEW YORK (AP) — Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, citing “profound differences.”

As Donald Trump seeks the presidency for a third time, he is being vigorously opposed by a vocal contingent of former officials who are stridently warning against his return to power and offering dire predictions for the country and the rule of law if his campaign succeeds.

It’s a striking chorus of detractors, one without precedent in the modern era, coming from those who witnessed first-hand his conduct in office and the turmoil that followed.

Sarah Matthews, a former Trump aide who testified before the House Jan. 6 committee and is among those warning about the threat he poses, said it’s “mind-boggling” how many members of his senior staff have denounced him.

Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House

As Trump seeks the presidency a third time, he’s being shadowed by a chorus of people who served in his administration who have become sharp critics, some offering dire predictions about his return to power.

apnews.com

The reasons for the warnings are as varied as the people making them. Some point to Project 2025, an authoritarian playbook centering on tearing down what is widely referred to as the "administrative state." Replacing it with those who pass a test of loyalty to the person who would head up an unitary executive with newly, expansive power. Some point to his immorality, some to witnessing first hand his incompetence and impetuous behavior, some to the virtually incomprehensible times he has run afoul of the law and basic decency. They all boil down to the same thing. They fear he will break us.

My answer to those concerns is, we are already broken.

We, the people, can not agree on who the legitimate leader of the country is. We can not agree on how to view the events that transpired on Jan. 6 nor who is responsible for them. We no longer agree adherence to a basic moral code is a prerequisite for holding high office. We do not agree on whether both threats and acts of violence in someone's name should be condemned by that person. We are at virtual polar opposite sides when it comes to environmental, immigration, gun control, and abortion policies. We can't agree on elemental facts, making constructive discourse and effective governance impossible. We do not agree as to the reasons for historic congressional inaction while there is a pressing need for action on many fronts. We can not agree on the best way to move forward. That is not sustainable.

Can we be fixed? I believe we can. We are on the cusp of deciding whether to begin that process this coming November.

Here's a thought. You could consider NOT voting for him this time. Just sayin', if you're like all angry about it and stuff.

 

[berg80]

You literally have never been able to actually refute any facts.

You literally have never presented any.

 

[1srelluc]

I know you folks hate to see the 1/6 committee's work brought up but that was an excellent example of the unanimity of the experiences recounted by former members of the admin. I was especially interested to hear the testimony of former DoJ officials talk about Trump's efforts to corrupt it to his advantage.

How about the 51 former "intelligence" weenies that claimed Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation and the ensuing full court press by leftist operatives in the DOJ manipulating social media to make it seem so?

Pepperidge Farms remembers......Oh but let's go on about 1/6 which was mostly just a somewhat spirited protest till a BLM loving cop murdered an unarmed woman.

 

[berg80]

Here's a thought. You could consider NOT voting for him this time. Just sayin', if you're like all angry about it and stuff.

Do you practice being obtuse or does it come naturally?

 

[Mac1958]

This guy......

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4736777-trump-campaign-criticizes-jail/

I want you to remember what they did to me. They tortured me in the Fulton County Jail, and TOOK MY MUGSHOT. So guess what? I put it on a mug for the WHOLE WORLD TO SEE!” the fundraising email said.

What percentage of them do you think he's being honest, that he was actually tortured?

I'd guess at least 20%. The rest don't care if he's honest with them.

 

[hadit]

Do you practice being obtuse or does it come naturally?

I practice having a good laugh at the people who take themselves ever so seriously on the interwebs, thinking they are contributing to serious political discourse.

 

[Billiejeens]

"After all, we already know Trump believes as prez he is above the law."

Surely you aren't denying he is claiming absolute immunity from prosecution for anything he did as prez, are you? Can you be that detached from reality? Wait.........of course you can.

Your echo chamber is pushing you to believe the "absolute immunity" means something other than what it actually means, to scare you,
To use you to continue with your propaganda war.

It means absolute immunity for actions taken in his Role as President.

it doesn't mean absolute immunity 24/7/365
The President would not be immune if he drove his car into someone and killed them, as driving a car is not a role of the President.

Reality make you less terrified, now?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Trump is evil. That doesn't mean he can only be lying or stupid. He is both.

Hyperbole much?