Accusing Israel of Genocide is an Antisemitic Trope

[gipper]

You are adding a distaste for facts to complement your lack of knowledge of English and international law. The trifecta!

International law opposes what you support. You in fact, support a terrorist regime.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you have nothing to back up your claim. Got it.

I can back up every claim but you must tell me which one you want me to backup - please quote me too, no more paraphrasing trickery.

 

[rosends]

International law opposes what you support. You in fact, support a terrorist regime.

Actually not true, but expected from someone who is unfamiliar with so much.

 

[rosends]

I can back up every claim but you must tell me which one you want me to backup - please quote me too, no more paraphrasing trickery.

start with "force a population of people to die from sucking toxins into their lungs"

then you can try to answer the questions I asked you. Well, you probably can't, but whatever.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

rosends

Why do you have nothing to say about this man the man who's parents were killed on Oct 7th who blames "Jewish supremacy" for their deaths?

 

[gipper]

Actually not true, but expected from someone who is unfamiliar with so much.

See? Denying reality again. Zionism is a mental disorder.

 

[rosends]

rosends

Why do you have nothing to say about this man the man who's parents were killed on Oct 7th who blames "Jewish supremacy" for their deaths?

בּרוך דיין האמת

 

[rosends]

See? Denying reality again. Zionism is a mental disorder.

oh look -- another one who specializes in empty and unproven claims. Shocking.

 

[gipper]

oh look -- another one who specializes in empty and unproven claims. Shocking.

So again, you admit being uninformed.

International Law Opposes Israel's Actions​

International law is unequivocal in its condemnation of Israel’s actions in Gaza. The following points summarize the key findings:

• Occupation: The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled that Israel’s presence in Palestinian territory, including Gaza, is unlawful. Israel’s occupation of Gaza, West Bank, and East Jerusalem since 1967 is in violation of international law.
• Siege: The imposition of a siege on Gaza, which severely limits access to food, water, and electricity, is prohibited under international humanitarian law. The siege constitutes collective punishment, a violation of Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
• Proportionality: Israel’s military responses to Hamas attacks have been criticized for being disproportionate and causing excessive harm to civilians and civilian infrastructure. International law requires that military actions be necessary and proportional to achieve a legitimate military objective.
• Humanitarian Law: The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and other organizations have condemned Israel’s actions in Gaza as violating international humanitarian law. The ICRC has emphasized the need to protect civilians and civilian objects from the effects of armed conflict.
• Accountability: The lack of adequate investigations and prosecutions of Israeli military personnel for alleged war crimes and human rights violations has been widely criticized. International law requires that belligerents investigate and prosecute commanders and soldiers for crimes and violations.
• Human Rights: The UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory has consistently reported that Israel’s actions in Gaza amount to collective punishment and violate human rights.

Key International Institutions and Organizations

• International Court of Justice (ICJ)
• United Nations General Assembly
• International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
• UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory
• European Union (EU)
• African Union
• Amnesty International
• Human Rights Watch
• Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

start with "force a population of people to die from sucking toxins into their lungs"

How would one avoid breathing in particulate asbestos in Gaza after the destruction it has undergone? They cannot, therefore those who converted the asbestos from a safe form to a deadly form are to blame - the Israeli butchers.

then you can try to answer the questions I asked you. Well, you probably can't, but whatever.

Asbestos has been a common building material for decades and wasn't banned in Britain for example until the 1980s.

Building material used in Gaza are manufactured in Israel. Asbestos is not yet actually banned in Israel but has been curtailed as a building material since 1997 with various restrictions.

Therefore any building built before say 2000 will probably be built using asbestos based products:

From the 1950s, asbestos was widely used in Israel predominantly for asbestos-cement building products4 for roofing, wallboards, pipes and chimneys.5 Government sources estimate that industrial buildings, agricultural structures, educational institutions, parking lots, army camps6 and private buildings in Israel contain up to 100 million square meters of asbestos cement. Asbestos was also used for thermal insulation, soundproofing and friction materials, including brake linings. Overall, 90% of all imported asbestos was chrysotile; the remainder was crocidolite.

Source: Israeli Asbestos Ban on the Horizon

The Israelis are so dumb and primitive that while the developed world banned the product some forty years ago, Israel has not.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

בּרוך דיין האמת

Indeed, do you claim the man is a liar then?

Your also suspiciously silent on this mutiny too.

 

[rosends]

So again, you admit being uninformed.

International Law Opposes Israel's Actions​

International law is unequivocal in its condemnation of Israel’s actions in Gaza. The following points summarize the key findings:

• Occupation: The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled that Israel’s presence in Palestinian territory, including Gaza, is unlawful. Israel’s occupation of Gaza, West Bank, and East Jerusalem since 1967 is in violation of international law.

there is an advisory opinion from a court that has no authority. Since international law defines those regions at (at most) disputed this fails.

• Siege: The imposition of a siege on Gaza, which severely limits access to food, water, and electricity, is prohibited under international humanitarian law. The siege constitutes collective punishment, a violation of Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

You could start with https://www.inss.org.il/publication/israel-duties/ and just scroll down to "siege". Then you could start to protest Egypt. My guess is you won't.

• Proportionality: Israel’s military responses to Hamas attacks have been criticized for being disproportionate and causing excessive harm to civilians and civilian infrastructure. International law requires that military actions be necessary and proportional to achieve a legitimate military objective.

Yeah...no. Proportionality Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means In Gaza

• Humanitarian Law: The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and other organizations have condemned Israel’s actions in Gaza as violating international humanitarian law. The ICRC has emphasized the need to protect civilians and civilian objects from the effects of armed conflict.

The same Red Cross which has done nothing to help the hostages? That took literally an entire calendar year to criticize the taking of Israeli hostages? And this, of course ignores what Israel has done to protect civilians. But I guess it is better for you to ignore that.

• Accountability: The lack of adequate investigations and prosecutions of Israeli military personnel for alleged war crimes and human rights violations has been widely criticized. International law requires that belligerents investigate and prosecute commanders and soldiers for crimes and violations.

Actually, Israel has investigated its own (and punished them) significantly more than any Arab countries have. But let's ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

• Human Rights: The UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory has consistently reported that Israel’s actions in Gaza amount to collective punishment and violate human rights.

The Rapporteur reported it? LOL. U.N. Special Rapporteur criticized for ‘extreme bias’ against Israel — Hillel Neuer on Sky News - UN Watch

but cute try.

 

[rosends]

How would one avoid breathing in particulate asbestos in Gaza after the destruction it has undergone? They cannot, therefore those who converted the asbestos from a safe form to a deadly form are to blame - the Israeli butchers.

They can move. Just ask Egypt. Done. Next?

Asbestos has been a common building material for decades and wasn't banned in Britain for example until the 1980s.

Still not an answer to what I asked.

Building material used in Gaza are manufactured in Israel. Asbestos is not yet actually banned in Israel but has been curtailed as a building material since 1997 with various restrictions.

So who built up Gaza after Israel left and the Arabs destroyed Israeli infrastructure (which was after 1997)? Did Arabs build using asbestos? With what money? If the buildings were already there, then why wasn't the asbestos abated with all the aid money?

Therefore any building built before say 2000 will probably be built using asbestos based products:

great -- and therefore the asbestos could have been abated. The money was there to do it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

They can move. Just ask Egypt. Done. Next?

Still not an answer to what I asked.

So who built up Gaza after Israel left and the Arabs destroyed Israeli infrastructure (which was after 1997)? Did Arabs build using asbestos? With what money? If the buildings were already there, then why wasn't the asbestos abated with all the aid money?

Because Israel never banned it so it was bought and sold by merchants and so on.

great -- and therefore the asbestos could have been abated. The money was there to do it.

How much would it cost to remove and make safe all of the asbestos in the Gaza strip? You must know else you could never argue "The money was there to do it"

 

[rosends]

Because Israel never banned it so it was bought and sold.

if after 1997 it wasn't used except in special situations are you claiming that all of Gaza was such a special case?

How much would it cost to remove and make safe all of the asbestos in the Gaza strip? You must know else you could never argue "The money was there to do it"

Having done it myself, I can tell you that it isn't very expensive and with the millions of aid that went to building tunnels for terrorists, it could have been done. Does the article explain if it is in floor tiles? Insulation (and if so, in spray form, mats or other coverings) or other uses? No, it doesn't. But clearly you know. So do tell.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

if after 1997 it wasn't used except in special situations are you claiming that all of Gaza was such a special case?

Gaza wasn't built after 1997, it's a very old place.

Having done it myself, I can tell you that it isn't very expensive and with the millions of aid that went to building tunnels for terrorists, it could have been done. Does the article explain if it is in floor tiles? Insulation (and if so, in spray form, mats or other coverings) or other uses? No, it doesn't. But clearly you know. So do tell.

I expected a number, a cost, don't you have that? a number?

The urge you have to victim blame is so overpowering for you that you'll stop at nothing to polish the turd, even irrationality, very similar to MAGA cult members, it's sad to watch.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Source: Gaza in rubble and ruin

Israel’s military campaign since Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack has devastated the Gaza Strip, leaving an estimated 42 million tonnes of debris piled where houses, mosques, schools and shops used to stand. In April a U.N. estimate reckoned that this would take 14 years to dispose of, while the U.N. official overseeing the problem said the clean-up would cost at least $1.2 billion.

The World Health Organization said large amounts of dust released from destroyed buildings are releasing hazardous materials that float into the air or seep into water supplies, risking serious health problems for Gaza’s 2.3 million people.

According to a damage assessment from UNOSAT, 163,778 structures were damaged in the Gaza Strip based on images taken on Sept. 3 and Sept. 6 amounting to 66% of the total. Of these, 78% were completely destroyed or severely or moderately damaged.

In total there are more than 128,000 buildings destroyed, or severely or moderately damaged in Gaza as a result of the conflict. That’s almost three times as many buildings as there are in Manhattan island, New York.

The sheer volume of this debris is enormous. If piled up, it would be the equivalent of around 11 enormous heaps, each the size of the Great Pyramid in Giza, Egypt.

In 2009, a UNEP post-conflict assessment of Gaza revealed the presence of asbestos in building debris and in landfills. Asbestos was found in debris from older buildings, temporary building extensions and sheds, as well as in roofs and walls of livestock facilities. The U.N. Environment Programme estimates that 2.3 million tonnes of debris generated by this conflict may be contaminated.

According to a UNEP report, asbestos is mainly found in the older buildings and structures of Gaza’s eight refugee camps, in particular, the asbestos cement sheets used for roofing.

Unlike the usual array of tents marked with UN logos typically seen in conflict areas, the camps in Gaza have developed over seven decades into massive built-up neighbourhoods, with schools, mosques, shops and hospitals.

The densely packed camps were set up in 1948 to shelter the wave of Palestinians who fled or were driven from their homes amid the fighting that accompanied the creation of the modern state of Israel.

Israeli airstrikes have devastated parts of refugee camps over the course of the conflict. The UN estimates that around 800,000 tons of debris from the camps may be contaminated with asbestos and should be handled as hazardous waste.

Israel destroys, that's all it ever did since the demonic force of reactionary Zionism darkened the once beautiful Palestine.

The consequences of mass destruction and the potential to induce cancers and other debilitating lung diseases is readily appreciated, that the Nazinyahu government ignored this reality is just another piece of evidence that genocide is intended even if that means that thousands and thousands of babies and children will be doomed to suffer and die young from being poisoned, the Israelis like the Nazis will stop at nothing to kill, they love killing non-Jews, be they babies or elderly, they are very good at killing and not much else.

The monstrous slaughter machine must be stopped and the despicable defenders of the state must be challenged at every opportunity and exposed for the disgusting barbarians they are, wherever we encounter these insane apologists we must confront them with their crimes and lies.

 

[Shusha]

Except that's not what you did.

Jews didn't return to the Jewish homeland? But you just said that the entire cause of the problem was Jewish people returning to their homeland. Make up your mind, already.

 

[gipper]

there is an advisory opinion from a court that has no authority. Since international law defines those regions at (at most) disputed this fails.

You could start with https://www.inss.org.il/publication/israel-duties/ and just scroll down to "siege". Then you could start to protest Egypt. My guess is you won't.

Yeah...no. Proportionality Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means In Gaza

The same Red Cross which has done nothing to help the hostages? That took literally an entire calendar year to criticize the taking of Israeli hostages? And this, of course ignores what Israel has done to protect civilians. But I guess it is better for you to ignore that.

Actually, Israel has investigated its own (and punished them) significantly more than any Arab countries have. But let's ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

The Rapporteur reported it? LOL. U.N. Special Rapporteur criticized for ‘extreme bias’ against Israel — Hillel Neuer on Sky News - UN Watch

but cute try.

Most of the world’s nations oppose your nation’s mass murder of defenseless people. It’s a crime what you're doing. If any other nation did as you’ve done, the consequences would be severe.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Most of the world’s nations oppose your nation’s mass murder of defenseless people. It’s a crime what you're doing. If any other nation did as you’ve done, the consequences would be severe.

You've been duped. Stop watching TV.