alan grayson threatens lawsuit on citizenship grounds if ted cruz is the gop nominee

[easyt65]

'alan grayson threatens lawsuit on citizenship grounds'

Grayson is a pathetic 'birther', a useless tool that is succeeding only in embarrassing those who elected him and sent him to Washington...

 

[Faun]

OK none of that is in the constitution. There are only natural born and naturalized citizens. There is no 3rd category.
So, when and where was Cruz naturalized as a US citizen?

So you're denying that Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States, under clause 5:

No person except a natural born Citizen...?

Seems fairly short cited, given the irrefutable nature of such, but its your reputation.

Understand... had the people adhered to the Constitution. As written, not as rationalized. obama would never have been President.

No, you flaming moron. He's denying your demented interpretation of that clause. As is just about everyone ... as us every presidential election in the history of the United States which has never held any candidate to such a restriction of requiring presidents to be born to two U.S. citizens.

But then, you have proven beyond any shadow of doubt that you are batshit crazy. You've expressed desire to behead Americans ... you've expressed desire to stand with ISIS in overthrowing America ... you've expressed desire to vote for ineligible presidential candidates.

You're as sick as they come, conservative. Hopefully, NSA is keeping a close eye on you.

 

[Faun]

What country was Cruz a citizen of when he was born?

Canada.

wrong.
Next question: When and where was Cruz naturalized as a US citizen?

He is not wrong. You're just a conservative. No one expects you to know any better. Cruz was born with dual citizenship, so yes, he was born a Canadian citizen just as that poster claimed. Need more proof, forum jester ?

Here's Cruz renouncing his Canadian citizenship ... something which obviously baffles you since you don't think he was a citizen of Canada...

Ted Cruz renounces Canadian citizenship | Fox News

The answer "Canadian" is wrong. He was born with dual citizenship, as you say.
That makes him a natural born citizen, ergo eligible.
Thanks for proving my point, you towering mountain of pig shit.

Umm, I just told you Cruz was born with dual citizenship.

And saying it is wrong to say Cruz was a citizen of Canada when he was born is idiotic: which is why you said it was wrong -- because you're an idiot. Now ya know.

 

[dcraelin]

where does it say it doesn't....it seems to me its up to bureaucrat discretion.

That above post by keys got an informative by me....yours never do.

be interesting to know when that law was passed and if it was during Obama pal Neil Abercrombe's governance.

If you find any post by Keys 'informative' then you are a lost cause.

Meanwhile- the Republican Director of Health- selected by the Republican Governor- confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- and that he is a natural born citizen.

http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/09-063.pdf

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEAL
TH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai
‛
i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State D
epartment of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citiz
en. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

I notice all that verbiage didnt answer my question......nor does it say anything but that the director of health saw previous records

Actually what it says is two things
a) that the original records in Hawaii say that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and
b) that he is a natural born citizen.

Birthers refuse to accept those facts- but that is the official statement of the Director of Health of Hawaii- admissible in court.

it dont answer the question I asked......

a lot of things are "admissible in court"

dont consider myself a birther but dont dismiss out of hand questions either.

What hard questions?

This?
"be interesting to know when that law was passed and if it was during Obama pal Neil Abercrombe's governance."

Since you haven't bothered to look up the answer- it appears that you really don't care about 'hard questions'

But you do appear to be interested in 'asking' irrelevant' questions.

didnt say it was a hard question so dont know why you're emphasizing that.

just that with you or whoevers post I originally responded to s vast knowledge you could tell be right off without a search through hawaii records.

 

[Syriusly]

'alan grayson threatens lawsuit on citizenship grounds'

Grayson is a pathetic 'birther', a useless tool that is succeeding only in embarrassing those who elected him and sent him to Washington...

Like Trump.

 

[Syriusly]

I keep pointing out that you are a liar....

The only one who keeps lying is YOU --

Feel free to point out where I have lied- you do realize right that you proclaiming that Obama is a liar has nothing to do with my posts?

Meanwhile- I have shown exactly where you have lied in this thread.

But please continue- its fun to watch the Conservative do the usual denial dance.

 

[easyt65]

'alan grayson threatens lawsuit on citizenship grounds'

Grayson is a pathetic 'birther', a useless tool that is succeeding only in embarrassing those who elected him and sent him to Washington...

Like Trump.

weren't you the one criticizing me for the 'off-topic' diversion earlier? Maybe not - you liberal apologists all look / sound alike...

 

[Syriusly]

OK none of that is in the constitution. There are only natural born and naturalized citizens. There is no 3rd category.
So, when and where was Cruz naturalized as a US citizen?

So you're denying that Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States, under clause 5:

No person except a natural born Citizen...?

And a natural born citizen?

The Indiana Court of Appeals then concludes:

Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.

Which is exactly what American voters, the Electoral College, Congress and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court decided also.

 

[easyt65]

Feel free to point out where I have lied- .

Okay, if you insist....AGAIN:

I pointed out - accurately ... FACTUALLY - that Obama has Repeatedly violated the CONSTITUTION, has been CAUGHT doing so, and has been STOPPED by Federal Courts AND the SCOTUS!

You called me a liar....declared that was not true.

In response I posted the following:

Obama tried to make recess appointments that were found to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

SCOTUS strikes appointments
SCOTUS strikes appointments

Obama's attempt to By-Pass Congress to pass Amnesty has been BLOCKED, found so far to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL...TWICE

Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions
Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions

Not only did you LIE, but I proved you DON'T know what you are talking about or either you are deliberately lying...but EITHER way you continue to FALSELY accuse ME of lying.... YOU have been proven wrong / to be the liar...

Yet you continuously deny, spin, call me a liar, and try to claim you did not do / say what you did....much like Obama and Hillary.

....so STFU, you lying ignorant little liberal bi@tch!

 

[Syriusly]

'alan grayson threatens lawsuit on citizenship grounds'

Grayson is a pathetic 'birther', a useless tool that is succeeding only in embarrassing those who elected him and sent him to Washington...

Like Trump.

weren't you the one criticizing me for the 'off-topic' diversion earlier? Maybe not - you liberal apologists all look / sound alike...

LOL- you are eager to talk about 'pathetic 'birthers'- when it comes to Grayson'- why so coy when the pathetic Birther is Trump?

As I have said(and you lied about what I said)- all Birthers are idiots.

Agree or disagree?

Because Trump is a big time Birther- and anyone who would support a pathetic Birther like Trump is pretty pathetic.

 

[Syriusly]

Feel free to point out where I have lied- .

You called me a liar....

I called you a liar based upon this lie of yours:


So now that we have established Grayson is another Liberal 'birther' that no Liberal will condemn for being so, are 'we' still attacking Cruz because this fat idiot 'birther' is trying to get some free un-warranted publicity?

As I pointed out- I had repeatedly condemned Grayson prior to that lie of yours- you had even responded to my posts- you just lied- because your goal here is smear liberals- and you are willing to lie to do so.

 

[easyt65]

LOL- you are eager to talk about 'pathetic 'birthers'- when it comes to Grayson'-.

THAT would be because this thread is about GRAYSON (or are you too STUPID to get that?!). If you can not stay on topic perhaps you should start another thread focused on Trump....

...but NO, you continually attempt to exercise the steps outlined in Saul Alynski's book, 'Rules For Radicals', trying to change the discussion / argument...like a good little Socialist.

 

[easyt65]

Feel free to point out where I have lied- .

You called me a liar....

I called you a liar based upon this lie of yours:.

LIAR!

AGAIN....as posted numerous times, as proven numerous times, as available for anyone and everyone to see....

I pointed out - accurately ... FACTUALLY - that Obama has Repeatedly violated the CONSTITUTION, has been CAUGHT doing so, and has been STOPPED by Federal Courts AND the SCOTUS!

You called me a liar....declared that was not true.

In response I posted the following:

Obama tried to make recess appointments that were found to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

'SCOTUS strikes appointments'

Obama's attempt to By-Pass Congress to pass Amnesty has been BLOCKED, found so far to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL...TWICE

'Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions'


Not only did you LIE, but I proved you DON'T know what you are talking about or either you are deliberately lying...but EITHER way you continue to FALSELY accuse ME of lying.... YOU have been proven wrong / to be the liar...

Yet you continuously deny, spin, call me a liar, and try to claim you did not do / say what you did....much like Obama and Hillary. Over and over you humiliate yourself by LYING over and over again, claiming you did not say something that has been repeatedly proven that you DID!

....so STFU, you lying ignorant little liberal bi@tch!

 

[Faun]

Feel free to point out where I have lied- .

You called me a liar....

I called you a liar based upon this lie of yours:.

LIAR!

AGAIN....as posted numerous times, as proven numerous times, as available for anyone and everyone to see....

I pointed out - accurately ... FACTUALLY - that Obama has Repeatedly violated the CONSTITUTION, has been CAUGHT doing so, and has been STOPPED by Federal Courts AND the SCOTUS!

You called me a liar....declared that was not true.

In response I posted the following:

Obama tried to make recess appointments that were found to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

SCOTUS strikes appointments
SCOTUS strikes appointments

Obama's attempt to By-Pass Congress to pass Amnesty has been BLOCKED, found so far to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL...TWICE

Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions
Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions

Not only did you LIE, but I proved you DON'T know what you are talking about or either you are deliberately lying...but EITHER way you continue to FALSELY accuse ME of lying.... YOU have been proven wrong / to be the liar...

Yet you continuously deny, spin, call me a liar, and try to claim you did not do / say what you did....much like Obama and Hillary.

....so STFU, you lying ignorant little liberal bi@tch!

Too funny. In back-to-back posts -- you criticize another poster for talking about Trump in a thread about Grayson .... followed up just minutes later by you admitting you were talking about Obama ... in this thread ... about Grayson.

You brain-dead conservatives are a riot!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

What country was Cruz a citizen of when he was born?

Canada.

wrong.
Next question: When and where was Cruz naturalized as a US citizen?

He is not wrong. You're just a conservative. No one expects you to know any better. Cruz was born with dual citizenship, so yes, he was born a Canadian citizen just as that poster claimed. Need more proof, forum jester ?

Here's Cruz renouncing his Canadian citizenship ... something which obviously baffles you since you don't think he was a citizen of Canada...

Ted Cruz renounces Canadian citizenship | Fox News

The answer "Canadian" is wrong. He was born with dual citizenship, as you say.
That makes him a natural born citizen, ergo eligible.
Thanks for proving my point, you towering mountain of pig shit.

It actually doesn't make him a natural born citizen.

As the term has no relevance to law. It speaks only the the NATURE of Citizenship; wherein there is no component of WHERE the newly born citizen slides down the birth canal.

A Natural Born Citizen is a person whose birth NATURALLY resulted in Citizenship. And that happens ONLY where the individual was born to TWO CITIZENS.

 

[Syriusly]

Feel free to point out where I have lied- .

You called me a liar....

I called you a liar based upon this lie of yours:.

LIAR!

Once again- I called you a liar when you lied- when you said this:


So now that we have established Grayson is another Liberal 'birther' that no Liberal will condemn for being so, are 'we' still attacking Cruz because this fat idiot 'birther' is trying to get some free un-warranted publicity?

Just another Conservative liar.

Lying.

Again.

 

[Syriusly]

What country was Cruz a citizen of when he was born?

Canada.

wrong.
Next question: When and where was Cruz naturalized as a US citizen?

He is not wrong. You're just a conservative. No one expects you to know any better. Cruz was born with dual citizenship, so yes, he was born a Canadian citizen just as that poster claimed. Need more proof, forum jester ?

Here's Cruz renouncing his Canadian citizenship ... something which obviously baffles you since you don't think he was a citizen of Canada...

Ted Cruz renounces Canadian citizenship | Fox News

The answer "Canadian" is wrong. He was born with dual citizenship, as you say.
That makes him a natural born citizen, ergo eligible.
Thanks for proving my point, you towering mountain of pig shit.

A Natural Born Citizen is a person whose birth NATURALLY resulted in Citizenship. And that happens ONLY where the individual was born to TWO CITIZENS.

According to you.

And a few other deranged individuals.

Not according to anyone else.

 

[Syriusly]

LOL- you are eager to talk about 'pathetic 'birthers'- when it comes to Grayson'-.

THAT would be because this thread is about GRAYSON (or are you too STUPID to get that?!). If you can not stay on topic perhaps you should start another thread focused on Trump....

...but NO, you continually attempt to exercise the steps outlined in Saul Alynski's book, 'Rules For Radicals', trying to change the discussion / argument...like a good little Socialist.

Birthers- idiots or not?

Or are you just another Conservative hypocrite that whines about Grayson but embraces a big fat Birther like Trump?

So- once again- Birthers- idiots or not?

Is an honest opinion from you just to much of a challenge for you?

 

[easyt65]

Once again- I called you a liar when you lied- when you said this:

LIAR!

AGAIN....as posted numerous times, as proven numerous times, as available for anyone and everyone to see....

I pointed out - accurately ... FACTUALLY - that Obama has Repeatedly violated the CONSTITUTION, has been CAUGHT doing so, and has been STOPPED by Federal Courts AND the SCOTUS!

You called me a liar....declared that was not true.

In response I posted the following:

Obama tried to make recess appointments that were found to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

'SCOTUS strikes appointments'

Obama's attempt to By-Pass Congress to pass Amnesty has been BLOCKED, found so far to be UN-CONSTITUTIONAL...TWICE

'Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration actions'


Not only did you LIE, but I proved you DON'T know what you are talking about or either you are deliberately lying...but EITHER way you continue to FALSELY accuse ME of lying.... YOU have been proven wrong / to be the liar...

Yet you continuously deny, spin, call me a liar, and try to claim you did not do / say what you did....much like Obama and Hillary. Over and over you humiliate yourself by LYING over and over again, claiming you did not say something that has been repeatedly proven that you DID!

....so STFU, you lying ignorant little liberal bi@tch!

--------
Why don't you ADMIT, which you refused to do the 1st time, that Obama has repeatedly violated the Constitution, has repeatedly been caught doing so, and has been repeatedly stopped by Federal Courts and the SCOTUS?

The 1st time I pointed this out you insisted I was lying. It has now been fully established and proven you had no clue what you were talking about when you called me a liar and denied it.

Do you STILL insist Obama has never violated the Constitution?
Do you STILL insist he has never been caught violating the Constitution?
Do you STILL insist no Federal Court or the SCOTUS has stopped him from doing so?

You did earlier...what about NOW? Ya gonna 'man up' or keep this pathetic charade going?

Either way, 'Alynski', you've been proven by the above denial to have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Now you can whine, spin, lie, and pontificate with YOUSELF all you want. I'm not 'feeding' the 'socialist troll' any more.

 

[Syriusly]

Once again- I called you a liar when you lied- when you said this:

LIAR!.

Once again- I called you a liar when you lied- when you said this:


So now that we have established Grayson is another Liberal 'birther' that no Liberal will condemn for being so, are 'we' still attacking Cruz because this fat idiot 'birther' is trying to get some free un-warranted publicity?

Just another Conservative liar.

Lying.

Again.