P F Tinmore
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"NYC Stands With Gaza Emergency Rally" in front of the Friends of the IDF headquarters New York City.
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Seema Malhotra MP urges UK to act against illegal Israeli annexation of Palestinian territory
You know, sarcasm doesn't get very far with me.Gee, so you are right and DDE was wrong? How amazing that I'm here with someone who knows more than the president of the US about international law. If you really want to understand what Article 51 includes, you need to do some reading.
Start here II H. Rolin, LE Droit MODERNE DE LA GUERRE 805 (1920) for the legal background. Then read U.N. Doc. S/PV.1343, at 36-37 (1967) (if a state of war existed enough to justify closing the straits, then, well a state of war already existed and Israel's actions were within the scope of wartime). Next, consider The Hague Convention and Declarations of 1899 AND 1907, at 122 (J. Scott. ed. 1915) (and the clarifying 2 L. Oppenheim, International Law 556 (H. Lauterpacht ed. 1952). Also if interest might be Gray “International Law and the Use of Force: Foundations of Public International Law”, pp.130-131; and Franck, “Fairness in International Law and Institutions”, pp.101-10
You know, sarcasm doesn't get very far with me.
Oh, I am very logical! Except when you ask troll questions?Neither does logic.
Oh, I am very logical! Except when you ask troll questions?
That's a troll question.You never said, whose land did Israel seize in 1967?
I guess the facts are too far for you then.You know, sarcasm doesn't get very far with me.
That's a troll question.
Facts are cool, sarcasm is not.I guess the facts are too far for you then.
I didn't say they stole the land.Just because you run away like a pussy doesn't mean it's a troll question.
You say they stole land, but can't say who from?
Pussy.
Facts are facts. Sarcasm is effective.Facts are cool, sarcasm is not.
Okay...Facts are facts. Sarcasm is effective.
Why? It’s a fair questionThat's a troll question.
I didn't say they stole the land.
They won the 67 War that was INITIATED by the Arabs, primarily Nasser
No it wasn't.
A better question is who belongs to a territory or society. People move around all the time and intermix all the time. It would be impossible to separate all of that out.
However, belonging is a two part question.
If these two things are met, he becomes a member of that society. If they are not, he does not belong there.
- A person goes to a place to become a member of a society.
- That person is accepted as a member of that society.