Almost $18.5 Trillion in debt.

[edthecynic]

We lost our AAA credit rating b/c obama ramped up the debt.

We lost our AAA rating because the GOP House would not accept a combination of spending cuts and tax increases to deal with the debt ceiling increase which the GOP was blocking. The rating service reported that the Obama plan would have kept the AAA rating. As is so typical of the Right, The GOP causes the downgrade and then they blame Obama.

This is the reason S&P gave for the downgrade:

"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year's wide-ranging debate, in our view, the differences between political parties have proven to be extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key to long-term fiscal sustainability."

What part of Obama spent way more than he could tax us for is to much for you to grasp?

He never had a single plan, not one idea to cut spending.

increase taxes? yes, he wanted to fuck the country as hard as possible.

You're leftist lack of understanding money comes from your inability to count to potato.

but wtf, I'll explain it, again.


If a company makes 1 mil and get taxed at 40%, they have 600k to work with.
if they get taxes at 20%, they have 800k to work with, that' 200k more
with that money, they could;
bank it, which is unlikely since a company needs to grow or get replaced (it's the leftist screech, I know, but recall, you're an idiot and can't count to potato)
hire more people, that can pay taxes, that will buy stuff that they will have to pay taxes on, which will increase demand for products and services that will force other companies to hire more people to meet this demand which means more people will be paying taxes.


At this point, I'd ask if you understand, but I already know you don't, so onto more of the list.

they can put money into R & D, which means they have to hire people, and you don't know what that means, but it's a good thing
they can expand, which means more employees paying more taxes.


But potato is racist so this won't work. So tax the fuck outta Americans and make us another socialist shithole, it's what you really want anyway

Bullshit!

 

[Two Thumbs]

Thank you St Ronnie and the GOP for turning this country from a creditor nation to a debtor nation.

'I don't worry about the deficit. It's big enough to take care of itself.'
Ronald Reagan

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter."
Dick Cheney

Are you literate?

Can you tell the dif between debt and def?

Yeah, each Reagan/GOP deficit increased the GOP/Reagan National Debt. The two are joined at the hip.

Another dumb c u n t going back to RR

obama has no excuse, now just shut the fuck up or admit you hate the country

 

[Two Thumbs]

We lost our AAA credit rating b/c obama ramped up the debt.

We lost our AAA rating because the GOP House would not accept a combination of spending cuts and tax increases to deal with the debt ceiling increase which the GOP was blocking. The rating service reported that the Obama plan would have kept the AAA rating. As is so typical of the Right, The GOP causes the downgrade and then they blame Obama.

This is the reason S&P gave for the downgrade:

"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year's wide-ranging debate, in our view, the differences between political parties have proven to be extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key to long-term fiscal sustainability."

What part of Obama spent way more than he could tax us for is to much for you to grasp?

He never had a single plan, not one idea to cut spending.

increase taxes? yes, he wanted to fuck the country as hard as possible.

You're leftist lack of understanding money comes from your inability to count to potato.

but wtf, I'll explain it, again.


If a company makes 1 mil and get taxed at 40%, they have 600k to work with.
if they get taxes at 20%, they have 800k to work with, that' 200k more
with that money, they could;
bank it, which is unlikely since a company needs to grow or get replaced (it's the leftist screech, I know, but recall, you're an idiot and can't count to potato)
hire more people, that can pay taxes, that will buy stuff that they will have to pay taxes on, which will increase demand for products and services that will force other companies to hire more people to meet this demand which means more people will be paying taxes.


At this point, I'd ask if you understand, but I already know you don't, so onto more of the list.

they can put money into R & D, which means they have to hire people, and you don't know what that means, but it's a good thing
they can expand, which means more employees paying more taxes.


But potato is racist so this won't work. So tax the fuck outta Americans and make us another socialist shithole, it's what you really want anyway

Bullshit!

See, I knew you were an idiot.

You actually do think potato is racist, that's why you never learned to count.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

$100 Billion????

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

The Republicans never have seen a tax cut for corporations and the rich they didn't like but never have quit spending for their pet projects and war machine:

These figures came from the bureau of the debt....they're easily verified:


..............................Total U S Debt.............................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

another idiot blaming the party that is out of power.

who's in charge?
(D) that's who

So whose fault is it that it's nearing $19 Trillion at $10k a second?

I know I know, St Ronny

you 'people' are fucking useless

 

[Two Thumbs]

Can a leftist pile of shit admit that they added to the debt?

Just once, one fucking time, say'; Ok, obama added to the debt, his lack of leadership caused us to lose our AAA credit rating, if he had tried just once to unite the country, things would be much better, but it's clear he's a racist and want to cloward-piven the country


that' would take incredible levels of honesty

so it will never happen

 

[rdean]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

3 trillion from the Bush Tax cuts
3 trillion from Iraq
1 trillion from drugs for vote
Unknown trillions lost from the GOP deregulated and ruined economy
another trillion for medical care for the tens of thousand maimed in Iraq

Then there are all the little stuffs, like the money lost from shutting down the economy and the cost of making people use the emergency room as primary health care.

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

 

[Wildman]

They are not self sustaining without some serious reform.

exactly, dump all illegals, able bodied and refugees from foreign countries who have no right to our $$$$$$$

 

[Two Thumbs]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

3 trillion from the Bush Tax cuts
3 trillion from Iraq
1 trillion from drugs for vote
Unknown trillions lost from the GOP deregulated and ruined economy
another trillion for medical care for the tens of thousand maimed in Iraq

Then there are all the little stuffs, like the money lost from shutting down the economy and the cost of making people use the emergency room as primary health care.

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

But St Ronny
But BOOOSSHH
but but but

we were just cleaning it when it went off


not one leftist can man up and admit obama is a fucking moron
let alone confess that increasing the size of government is a horrid idea.

never confess, never have an idea to fix things, just blame someone else.

thanks redean, 4th leftist moron on the thread, 4th in a row to blame someone else.

predictable

 

[rdean]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

3 trillion from the Bush Tax cuts
3 trillion from Iraq
1 trillion from drugs for vote
Unknown trillions lost from the GOP deregulated and ruined economy
another trillion for medical care for the tens of thousand maimed in Iraq

Then there are all the little stuffs, like the money lost from shutting down the economy and the cost of making people use the emergency room as primary health care.

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

But St Ronny
But BOOOSSHH
but but but

we were just cleaning it when it went off


not one leftist can man up and admit obama is a fucking moron
let alone confess that increasing the size of government is a horrid idea.

never confess, never have an idea to fix things, just blame someone else.

thanks redean, 4th leftist moron on the thread, 4th in a row to blame someone else.

predictable

It's not about blame. It's about history and taking responsibility. Two things Republicans easily forget and don't want. Blame is what the GOP does. I remember both Obama and Hillary saying at different times they boss and it was their responsibility. Could you imagine a Republican doing that? I couldn't.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

3 trillion from the Bush Tax cuts
3 trillion from Iraq
1 trillion from drugs for vote
Unknown trillions lost from the GOP deregulated and ruined economy
another trillion for medical care for the tens of thousand maimed in Iraq

Then there are all the little stuffs, like the money lost from shutting down the economy and the cost of making people use the emergency room as primary health care.

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

But St Ronny
But BOOOSSHH
but but but

we were just cleaning it when it went off


not one leftist can man up and admit obama is a fucking moron
let alone confess that increasing the size of government is a horrid idea.

never confess, never have an idea to fix things, just blame someone else.

thanks redean, 4th leftist moron on the thread, 4th in a row to blame someone else.

predictable

It's not about blame. It's about history and taking responsibility. Two things Republicans easily forget and don't want.

obama is at fault for our current debt and lose of our AAA credit rating

no leftist will ever admit that, even though you know it's true

You like to pretend it's just the gop, but it's not.

increasing spending comes with a need to increase taxes, you can't increase it more on the middle and you won't tax the poor, so you pretend that increasing taxes on the rich will have no effect on them.

or your just dumb enough to think that

your ideas will destroy the country, the people leading int he dnc polls will see that our debt explodes. There's not enough rich people to tax, there just isn't, but you know this, and support doing it anyway.

Why do you want to destroy the country, just curious.

 

[Wildman]

liberals are pathetic losers who never want to talk about their role in anything. the inescapable message they send is that they are inept and weak, and dumber than the people they THINK they are smarter than.

first off.., they do not "think", they FEEEEEL!! they also FEEEEL that only the "rich" are Republicans and Conservatives, if we took 98% of the wealth from "rich" liberscum and demorats the national debt could be paid down by half.

 

[SwimExpert]

But most wage earners live from paycheck to paycheck

So, stop taxing hundreds of dollars out of each paycheck for a SS program that results in a net loss. Let them roll that same money into a retirement fund of their own that will yield greater ROI.

 

[bedowin62]

Reagan's Deal With Democrats for Tax Increases Paired ...
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Dec 5, 2012 - The Democrats got the taxes, they say, but Reagan never got the cuts. ... seats gave Reagan working control of the House and voted for the cuts. ... “Of the spending cuts Congress allegedly owed, $100 billion consisted of

AS YOU CAN SEE Reagan made deals with his DEMOCRAT CONGRES for both tax cuts and tax increases.

but to listen to the endless crybaby whines of left-wing losers all over these message boards you would think Reagan was some kind of king that had no congress to work with

liberals are pathetic losers who never want to talk about their role in anything. the inescapable message they send is that they are inept and weak, and dumber than the people they THINK they are smarter than.

Just more lies, Reagan nixed the deal because the spending cuts included cuts to his pork barrel Star Wars crony boondoggle.

every time you losers are confronted with reality you start crying that somebody is lying.

just you saying something is a lie doesnt mean shit

 

[Wildman]

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

thank you for exposing the truth, the very first time ever.

 

[bedowin62]

I remember being pissed when it hit $100 billion.

Ya know how we try to explain to leftist that this much debt is bad and they don't seem to understand?

And you know how bent outta shape offended they get when they see this image;

I used to think is was b/c a heartless person was making fun of a retarded child.

But then it dawned on me.

They are made b/c they are jealous of the kid making it to potato when they can't.


How do you explain economics to someone that can't count to potato?
You can't

and that explains all their replies to our pleas to not spend more money, not enlarge the government, not pass more useless and redundant laws.

Look at this
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

The debt increases by $10k every second, every single second of everyday. That's $860 million a day.

And the top candidates for the dnc will gleefully increase it. They are getting cheered for their plans to increase the debt.


but potatoes are racist, brown on the outside and white on the inside, so I guess that makes it ok.

3 trillion from the Bush Tax cuts
3 trillion from Iraq
1 trillion from drugs for vote
Unknown trillions lost from the GOP deregulated and ruined economy
another trillion for medical care for the tens of thousand maimed in Iraq

Then there are all the little stuffs, like the money lost from shutting down the economy and the cost of making people use the emergency room as primary health care.

Thank God Republicans aren't responsible for any of it.

But St Ronny
But BOOOSSHH
but but but

we were just cleaning it when it went off


not one leftist can man up and admit obama is a fucking moron
let alone confess that increasing the size of government is a horrid idea.

never confess, never have an idea to fix things, just blame someone else.

thanks redean, 4th leftist moron on the thread, 4th in a row to blame someone else.

predictable

It's not about blame. It's about history and taking responsibility. Two things Republicans easily forget and don't want. Blame is what the GOP does. I remember both Obama and Hillary saying at different times they boss and it was their responsibility. Could you imagine a Republican doing that? I couldn't.

it is nothing short of hilarious to see a left-wing loser accusing ANYBODY of not taking responsibility for things

there is virtually nothing your community organizing Messiah hasnt blame on others

you're an idiot, one of the biggest left-wing losers on these boards, and everybody here knows it

 

[bedowin62]

The Blame Game at Its Finest: 21 Times Obama Has Passed ...
www.thepoliticalinsider.com/the-blame-game-at-its-finest-21-times-obam...

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The Blame Game at Its Finest: 21 Times Obama Has Passed the Buck. By Rusty Weiss ... Obama blames Bush for Fast and Furious scandal. Blamed Bush for

 

[MarcATL]

US Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillion
Economic Costs | Costs of War

The US spends more money on wars than anything else, by far. Not to mention the cost of lives. Both foreign and domestic.

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[bedowin62]

US Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillion
Economic Costs | Costs of War

The US spends more money on wars than anything else, by far. Not to mention the cost of lives. Both foreign and domestic.

Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Tapatalk

so? what's your point??

 

[edthecynic]

Reagan's Deal With Democrats for Tax Increases Paired ...
www.thedailybeast.com/.../reagan-s-deal-with-democrats-...

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Dec 5, 2012 - The Democrats got the taxes, they say, but Reagan never got the cuts. ... seats gave Reagan working control of the House and voted for the cuts. ... “Of the spending cuts Congress allegedly owed, $100 billion consisted of

AS YOU CAN SEE Reagan made deals with his DEMOCRAT CONGRES for both tax cuts and tax increases.

but to listen to the endless crybaby whines of left-wing losers all over these message boards you would think Reagan was some kind of king that had no congress to work with

liberals are pathetic losers who never want to talk about their role in anything. the inescapable message they send is that they are inept and weak, and dumber than the people they THINK they are smarter than.

Just more lies, Reagan nixed the deal because the spending cuts included cuts to his pork barrel Star Wars crony boondoggle.

every time you losers are confronted with reality you start crying that somebody is lying.

just you saying something is a lie doesnt mean shit

As I have pointed out over and over, whenever the Right gets caught lying, they simply lie some more.

It was St Ronnie who nixed the tax/spending deal worked out by Tip O'Neill and Bob Dole because it made cuts to his Star Wars pork barrel boondoggle.

Rosy Scenarios and Red Realities: Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and the Deficit

Reagan continued to rail against deficits while doing everything he could to protect his tax and defense programs that were their primary cause. In 1985 he adroitly outmaneuvered GOP Senate leader Bob Dole’s efforts to cut a deficit-reduction deal with House Democratic Speaker Tip O’Neill that included tax increases and defense cuts in return for entitlement economies.

Reconcilable Differences? "d0e4234"

Dole accused Reagan of "surrendering to the deficit." "If the President can't support us, he ought to keep his mouth shut,"

 

[bedowin62]

Reagan's Deal With Democrats for Tax Increases Paired ...
www.thedailybeast.com/.../reagan-s-deal-with-democrats-...

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Dec 5, 2012 - The Democrats got the taxes, they say, but Reagan never got the cuts. ... seats gave Reagan working control of the House and voted for the cuts. ... “Of the spending cuts Congress allegedly owed, $100 billion consisted of

AS YOU CAN SEE Reagan made deals with his DEMOCRAT CONGRES for both tax cuts and tax increases.

but to listen to the endless crybaby whines of left-wing losers all over these message boards you would think Reagan was some kind of king that had no congress to work with

liberals are pathetic losers who never want to talk about their role in anything. the inescapable message they send is that they are inept and weak, and dumber than the people they THINK they are smarter than.

Just more lies, Reagan nixed the deal because the spending cuts included cuts to his pork barrel Star Wars crony boondoggle.

every time you losers are confronted with reality you start crying that somebody is lying.

just you saying something is a lie doesnt mean shit

As I have pointed out over and over, whenever the Right gets caught lying, they simply lie some more.

It was St Ronnie who nixed the tax/spending deal worked out by Tip O'Neill and Bob Dole because it made cuts to his Star Wars pork barrel boondoggle.

Rosy Scenarios and Red Realities: Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and the Deficit

Reagan continued to rail against deficits while doing everything he could to protect his tax and defense programs that were their primary cause. In 1985 he adroitly outmaneuvered GOP Senate leader Bob Dole’s efforts to cut a deficit-reduction deal with House Democratic Speaker Tip O’Neill that included tax increases and defense cuts in return for entitlement economies.

Reconcilable Differences? "d0e4234"

Dole accused Reagan of "surrendering to the deficit." "If the President can't support us, he ought to keep his mouth shut,"

you morons are simply laughable
this whole item boils down to people like YOU LYING. lying to whom???

TO YOURSELVES.

you and your ilk are such pussies you do this every day here and have been making the same moronic excuses for almost forty years
so many DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR REAGANS POLICIES IN CONGRESS AND AT THE VOTING BOOTH THAT THE TERM REAGAN DEMOCRAT WAS COINED TO REFER TO THEM.
which of course makes your whole point moot. what an idiot seriously why do you losers insist in trying to re-write history??

is it because you just cant handle it/??