Americans have had over 200 years to prove democracy can work, but...

[zaangalewa]

The USA is not and has never been a democracy. ...

100% wrong and totally stupid nonsense. What is your nationality? Chinese? Russian? Trumpican? ...

 

[Unkotare]

100% wrong and totally stupid nonsense. What is your nationality? Chinese? Russian? Trumpican? ...

I am an American. America is a republic.

 

[Curried Goats]

I am an American. America is a republic.

And a democracy.

 

[Hum Dinger]

A failure of a democracy is a failure of its people. Look at us! Are we Americans the stupidest people on the planet? A democracy requires agreement among the people, yet we can't even agree that we even are a democracy. Our nation appears to be failing. The only thing nearly all people can agree on is - exactly who is responsible for our failure. Nearly everyone will say "It's the Other Side!". And they have PROOF! They can provide links to mounds of evidence on the internet supporting their beliefs. The problem with the internet is, and we should all know this by now, no matter what your beliefs are or how crazy they are, you can always find supporting evidence for them on the internet. There undoubtedly is some honest, rational information available on the internet, but who needs it if it challenges our own beliefs and there is an unlimited amount of alternative 'truth' online that we can spread instead?

Without blaming "the Other Side", can anyone see a way out of this mess?

Democracy was never intended to be a love fest.

It's a system of contention, negotiation and compromise. It's a civilized alternative to war.

In a Democracy no one is ever totally happy. Everyone must accept compromise.

What makes Democracy work is people accepting the outcome of Democracy even if they hate the outcome.

What's is failing is due to people who refuse to accept the outcome of elections and trying to violently force their desired outcomes, and people who refuse to negotiation and compromise.

It's especially problematic when people gain politically by refusing to negotiate and compromise - because they benefit politically from ongoing contention.

 

[BackAgain]

It was abolished in America after the war you dumb dumb and whether or not anyone alive today was a slave makes no difference on whether or not the Founders were tyrants, which they obviously were.

You are beating off. In other words, you’re busy beating a dead jackass.

Meanwhile, back here in reality, I’m glad you’ve figured out that slavery is a terrible thing. But it isn’t a form of government. And it doesn’t exist here anymore. And, as always, you’re a plodding pointless. simpleton.

 

[BackAgain]

And a democracy.

False. You aren’t right about practically anything.

 

[BackAgain]

100% wrong and totally stupid nonsense. What is your nationality? Chinese? Russian? Trumpican? ...

You are entirely wrong. What is your nationality? You appear to be a subject of the People’s Democratic Republic of Assholes.

The United States of America is not now and has never been a “democracy,” thank God and the Framers.

 

[Curried Goats]

You are beating off. In other words, you’re busy beating a dead jackass.

Meanwhile, back here in reality, I’m glad you’ve figured out that slavery is a terrible thing. But it isn’t a form of government. And it doesn’t exist here anymore. And, as always, you’re a plodding pointless. simpleton.

Who says slavery has to be a form of government to count as tyranny? What does form of government even mean? Clearly many in government were slave owners. 10 of the first 12 Presidents of the United States owned slaves.

False. You aren’t right about practically anything.

You're stupid. Calling America a democracy is perfectly fine description. After all, we elect our representatives democratically.

 

[BackAgain]

Who says slavery has to be a form of government to count as tyranny? What does form of government even mean? Clearly many in government were slave owners. 10 of the first 12 Presidents of the United States owned slaves.

You're stupid. Calling America a democracy is perfectly fine description. After all, we elect our representatives democratically.

The tyranny out Framers were concerned with was the kind that involved form of government.

It isn’t surprising that a dipshit like you cannot grasp even that much.

 

[Curried Goats]

The tyranny out Framers were concerned with was the kind that involved form of government.

Who cares what those slavers were concerned with? That they weren't concerned with their own tyranny and own mistreatment of others and their own theft of their lives and the product of their labor doesn't mean they weren't tyrants. That's like telling me the murderer doesn't think himself a bad guy. Well no shit.

It isn’t surprising that a dipshit like you cannot grasp even that much.

It's amazing you haven't realized yet that I'm the one inviting you to run your mouth and be an advocate for your stupid ideas.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

you mean the government

If the government were actually upholding the Constitution you might have a point but we all know that's not the case.

The Constitution Lets Power-Hungry Opportunists Define the Constitution

At the very least you'd honestly have to say that the Constitution is too weak to get the political class it established to follow it. After all, your glorified Founding Fodder were practically the same people who wrote the unworkable Articles of Confederation.

 

[Blues Man]

The Constitution Lets Power-Hungry Opportunists Define the Constitution

At the very least you'd honestly have to say that the Constitution is too weak to get the political class it established to follow it. After all, your glorified Founding Fodder were practically the same people who wrote the unworkable Articles of Confederation.

The founders never envisioned the political class

 

[BackAgain]

Who cares what those slavers were concerned with?

Americans care about with what the Framers (only some of whom were slave holders) were concerned with. I get it that asshole-licking jerkoffs like you wouldn’t care about the enlightened viewpoint on governments crafted by our Framers.

Send up a flare if you ever have an original or honest thing to say.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You are no problern a silver bullet is not able to solve, full-time-idiot. Why do you - nor anyone else on this planet including Jews - not lives in fear of Germans? Any idea about?

Lack of Pride Is What Really "Goeth Before a Fall"

Decadent Rome and decadent 20th Century Europe did have reason to fear the Nordic beasts. If we don't fear the ongoing American decadence, well be awakened too late by a goosestep surprise.

 

[Curried Goats]

Americans care about with what the Framers (only some of whom were slave holders) were concerned with. I get it that asshole-licking jerkoffs like you wouldn’t care about the enlightened viewpoint on governments crafted by our Framers.

No, I don't as do fewer and fewer educated people. We successfully lead a campaign to destroy and shit on the legacy of Confederates, we'll get there with the Founders are well.

Send up a flare if you ever have an original or honest thing to say.

Says the guy guzzling propaganda....

 

[BackAgain]

No, I don't

You don’t apply logic or reason or consistency or objectivity. That is for sure.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The founders never envisioned the political class

In Order to Be That Ignorant, They Had to Ignore History

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

100% wrong and totally stupid nonsense. What is your nationality? Chinese? Russian? Trumpican? ...

America Has Become Far Too "American" (In Your Sense)

 

[Curried Goats]

You don’t apply logic or reason or consistency or objectivity. That is for sure.

It's objectively true that slavery is tyranny and that the Founder's were either slavers or collaborators with slavers who together created a Slave State.

 

[BackAgain]

It's objectively true that slavery is tyranny

It isn’t. It is a repulsive system, but it isn’t a form of government. That is what’s called objective reality. Get to know it.

and that the Founder's were either slavers or collaborators with slavers who together created a Slave State.

Also false. Some of the Framers were slave holders. Others were not. And those who were not didn’t collaborate with the slave holders except on crafting a republic.

So your meaningless and dishonest hyperbole amounts to just you farting some more. Jerkoff Goat, you’re pathetic.