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It is illegal. period. The law says so.not if you don't have national background checksChuckleMost people don't say "ban" guns. normal people just want them away from crazies and criminals.What we've got here is failure to communicate. The Left has failed to change the Constitution by arbitrary means, but it doesn't seem to compute.
The 2nd Amendment stands. The guns are out there. You will never get them back. Any attempt to ban citizen gun ownership would be met with guffaws, and be ignored.
I mean, who would turn them in?
It is illegal for "crazies" and criminals to have guns.
How do you propose those guns are "taken away"?
Funny how you have to lie to make a point.Shirley. and 2nd amendment NRA nutbars don't want ANY regulation.
How is anyone of sound mind persuaded by the words of an anti-gun loon?Mark Kelly: The Time For NRA's 'Extreme Rhetoric Is Over'Why are the NRA nutbars? They want to preserve the balance between citizens and government.
Mark Kelly The Time For NRA s Extreme Rhetoric Is Over
The government knows a total gun ban means civil war.Why is it when faced with death tolls as high as Charleston or Sandy Hook or Aurora do we fail to understand that the weaponry used should be banned, those obtaining weapons should be scrutinized and get passed the straw man argument that gun control means a ban on all weapons?
"Would have" The question presume the act has not yet happened. Your response is dishonest.Q. What sort of control do you believe would have prevented the Charleston shooting?
A. A complex question or loaded question is an informal fallacy. A serious answer is very little if any form of gun control can be said to prevent an act already completed.
And so....?Q. For starters, how about criminal control.
A. Many mass murders and many murders in general are committed by persons with no criminal record.
Welcome to existing federal and state. law.However, persons with a propensity for violence (arrests for battery, sexual battery, domestic violence, child or animal abuse) or a history of substance abuse (two or more DUI's; arrests for possession of dangerous drugs or treatment for drug overdose) and persons determined to be a dangerous to themselves or others ought to forfeit their Second Amendment Rights and be denied the ability to own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun.
Said licensing, while violating the Constitution, will have no such effect.The only way to enforce this form of Criminal Control is to license every person who want to own, possess, etc. a gun.
Perfect, a thread that accuses "the left aka the boogeyman" of wanting something they dont want.
This is when you choose one wack a doodle and claim that person is a representative for the left.
Individuality? Whats that?
You are full of shit, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
^^Common response when a charlatan has been caught charlataning <----I just made that up for you
Yeah well you make EVERYTHING up anyway. How could I be charlataning when that was my first post in the thread idiot?
Why is it when faced with death tolls as high as Charleston or Sandy Hook or Aurora do we fail to understand that the weaponry used should be banned, those obtaining weapons should be scrutinized and get passed the straw man argument that gun control means a ban on all weapons?
Perfect, a thread that accuses "the left aka the boogeyman" of wanting something they dont want.
This is when you choose one wack a doodle and claim that person is a representative for the left.
Individuality? Whats that?
You are full of shit, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
^^Common response when a charlatan has been caught charlataning <----I just made that up for you
Yeah well you make EVERYTHING up anyway. How could I be charlataning when that was my first post in the thread idiot?
Because your first post was you charlataning? Is this hard for you?
Perfect, a thread that accuses "the left aka the boogeyman" of wanting something they dont want.
This is when you choose one wack a doodle and claim that person is a representative for the left.
Individuality? Whats that?
You are full of shit, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
^^Common response when a charlatan has been caught charlataning <----I just made that up for you
Yeah well you make EVERYTHING up anyway. How could I be charlataning when that was my first post in the thread idiot?
Because your first post was you charlataning? Is this hard for you?
Read your own post moron. How fucking stupid are you really?
Hint: remember studying "tense" in grade school grammar. You did make it that far didn't you?
You are full of shit, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
^^Common response when a charlatan has been caught charlataning <----I just made that up for you
Yeah well you make EVERYTHING up anyway. How could I be charlataning when that was my first post in the thread idiot?
Because your first post was you charlataning? Is this hard for you?
Read your own post moron. How fucking stupid are you really?
Hint: remember studying "tense" in grade school grammar. You did make it that far didn't you?
^^Common response when a charlatan has been caught charlataning
Good job, 3 posts in and you didnt address one thing I said. You're too busy looking into my big brown eyes
"Would have" The question presume the act has not yet happened. Your response is dishonest.Q. What sort of control do you believe would have prevented the Charleston shooting?
A. A complex question or loaded question is an informal fallacy. A serious answer is very little if any form of gun control can be said to prevent an act already completed.
And so....?Q. For starters, how about criminal control.
A. Many mass murders and many murders in general are committed by persons with no criminal record.
Assume everyone will commit a crime and write laws to treat them as if they have?
Welcome to existing federal and state. law.However, persons with a propensity for violence (arrests for battery, sexual battery, domestic violence, child or animal abuse) or a history of substance abuse (two or more DUI's; arrests for possession of dangerous drugs or treatment for drug overdose) and persons determined to be a dangerous to themselves or others ought to forfeit their Second Amendment Rights and be denied the ability to own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun.
Said licensing, while violating the Constitution, will have no such effect.The only way to enforce this form of Criminal Control is to license every person who want to own, possess, etc. a gun.
This is a lie, you and I both know that you cannot cite any post where I have displayed any degree of emotional impetus when discussing this issue; you on the other hand, have shown yourself incapable of honest and open discussion on same.You're way to emotional to debate any issue on gun violence or gun control!"Would have" The question presume the act has not yet happened. Your response is dishonest.Q. What sort of control do you believe would have prevented the Charleston shooting?
A. A complex question or loaded question is an informal fallacy. A serious answer is very little if any form of gun control can be said to prevent an act already completed.
And so....?Q. For starters, how about criminal control.
A. Many mass murders and many murders in general are committed by persons with no criminal record.
Assume everyone will commit a crime and write laws to treat them as if they have?
Welcome to existing federal and state. law.However, persons with a propensity for violence (arrests for battery, sexual battery, domestic violence, child or animal abuse) or a history of substance abuse (two or more DUI's; arrests for possession of dangerous drugs or treatment for drug overdose) and persons determined to be a dangerous to themselves or others ought to forfeit their Second Amendment Rights and be denied the ability to own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun.
Said licensing, while violating the Constitution, will have no such effect.The only way to enforce this form of Criminal Control is to license every person who want to own, possess, etc. a gun.
You don't like the fact that I remind everyone of the fact that you ran away from the honest and open discussion you asked for.Your signature line is simply spam
This is, of course, another lie; it also presupposes a concept you know you cannot soundly support, that there is no place for the 2nd in a legitimate conversation regarding gun control. All of this was addressed at length in the open and honest conversation you asked for but ran away from.Your arguments are circular, for they begin with the Second and end with the Second.
Keep the weapons out of the hands of crooks, crazies, and drug abusers!!! THAT is the real issue!!!Why is it when faced with death tolls as high as Charleston or Sandy Hook or Aurora do we fail to understand that the weaponry used should be banned, those obtaining weapons should be scrutinized and get passed the straw man argument that gun control means a ban on all weapons?
