Another win for Religious Liberty

[Coyote]

So ironic.

What did God have to say about illegal immigrants?

The foreigners residing among you must be treated as native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.—Leviticus 19:34

Seems to me he is reminding us of another people, fleeing into a foreign country to escape terrible things....and how we should treat them. I am not seeing any strings attached either.

Jesus was a migrant. Imagine if he were born today...we’d separate the family and then deport them.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Matthew 25:35-40 New International Version (NIV)
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

And yet God, in His infinite wisdom told the Jews to build a wall! God, unlike our liberals, had no problem identifying the enemy...

So, illegals who cross the border without papers, a misdemeanor, makes them equivalent to God's enemy? Glad I don't go to your church, Ram.

Well... somewhat, yes. You know the law.... you know you are not supposed to break the law....

What does the bible say about lawlessness?

What Does the Bible Say About Lawlessness?

I don't see much there that is good.

Again, I have no problem with people coming to the US legally..... but illegally.... yeah, that's not something G-d is in favor of.

Well, I guess that I am going to hell, too, because I, too, committed a misdemeanor. I got a speeding ticket for 15 MPH over the speed limit. God, have mercy on me!

That's why I set my cruise control. I got exactly 65 in the 65 zone. People pass me on both sides, and I just smile.

Even then however, there is a huge difference between you accidentally speeding, and people who are knowingly, intentionally, choosing to violate the law.

Most people who are caught speeding, are just not paying attention. (again that's why I set the cruise. I am real bad at just looking down and going CRUD! I'm going to fast!).

But illegals are not just randomly wandering around, and accidentily crossing a desert and entering the country illegally.

It's not like they walk out of the desert in Tucson, and say "Wait! This isn't Hermosillo!!".

They know exactly what they are doing. That's why they are in the desert.

Even so.... lets even say that. G-d is all about repentance. You repent of speeding.... by not speeding anymore. For me, that's setting the cruise control.

For illegally entering the US, that's going back to Mexico, or where ever, and staying their or trying to enter legally.

Then you are not an enemy of G-d.

That illegal alien is conspiring to take your job at the chicken packing plant, of trimming off the beak and feet. Therefore, God is offended, and demands a crusade to rid him from our presence!

 

[Vandalshandle]

Andy, your compassion for the illegals dying in the desert, because some guy leaves them water, really moves me in your sincerity….

Well.... do you want more people dying, or less?

This is like California handing out free needles, which has resulted in mass increase in drug use and more illness and diseases.

The solution is to hinder and discourage risky behavior. Not encourage it.

The same is true in all areas of life. If you have an alcoholic or gambling brother-in-law, and he comes to you saying he blew this months rent....... Do you pay his rent? Or do you direct him to the nearest addiction center?

If you pay his rent, then he'll continue and get worse at his addition, until he destroys his life.

The solution is to direct him to the addition center. Let him face the consequences of his actions, and then he'll hopefully learn from his mistakes and choose not to do it.

And not only him, but other people seeing what happens to him will serve to teach them. If they see him drinking and partying, and you pay all his bills, other people will do the same.

If they see him getting kicked out of his apartment, and then end up in a addiction recovery center, they will learn that is a bad plan.

In all cases.... rewarding dangerous and risky behavior is a terrible terrible option that dooms more people to hurt and pain and suffering. And by the way, is the default ideological view of all left-wingers, and the result of their views is always pain and suffering for everyone.

There is an evangelical shelter operating, I believe in Texas right now, and they will help anyone that comes to the shelter, who is immigrating across the border. They do not at all, go find people in the desert, specifically for this reason. They don't want to encourage people to take an extremely dangerous trek through the desert. They want them to come across the border at a port of entry, and they will gladly serve food, give shelter, and provide family services, and even teach basic English classes to those who want it.

What you guys do.... kills people. Period.

What we do, helps people. End of story.

...and a very amusing story, too!

And 100% true, as well!

Yes, and feeding the hungry encourages them to stay on welfare!

Not really. Giving them free food from government does, yes. But actual real charity does not generally.

Feeding the hungry, doesn't mean letting them live off you, and most Christian charities operate on that idea.

For example, when I worked at the homeless shelter down town, the vast majority of people that stayed there, generally were out in a month.

In fact, one of the duties that I was part of, was creating move-in boxes. This was a large box of common items for moving into a apartment. We have family, and individual boxes. They would contain a set of plates, cups, silverware, bathroom items, soap, shampoo, towels, tooth paste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, even some small pillows and some bed sheets, and usually a 3 pack of light bulbs.

We made hundreds of those boxes.

When people came and stayed there, and fed there, and so on... part of real charity is not just doing that, but also helping people back on their feet.

Another example, is the convict shelter, again run by an evangelical mission. You can stay there, free room, free food, free everything. But... you have to get a job. Any job. Must work 40 hours a week, and they had work placement programs for all convicts. Again, no rent payment, nothing.

Also you must take a class. Any class. A class on typing. A class on pipe-fitting. A class on reading and writing if you need it. But you have to take a class.

All the food you can eat, no cost on a room, no other requirements. And these convicts would graduate from classes, and work full time jobs, and eventually they would move out.

Again... you are helping people to succeed in life. Not helping them stay in their miserable condition for life.

And this is where the Bible is very clear.... 2 Thess 3:10

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
​

So when a person shows up wanting food... yes you feed them. And you help them as best you can. But when you find out that they simply don't want to work, then you cut them off.

All those charities, have that as a rule. The homeless shelter, if the same guy in there for a month, has made no effort to enroll in a training program, has made no effort to get a job, then the shelter manager will sit the guy down, explain how this works, and if he still refuses to do anything... they kick him out.

Not going to feed some perfectly able bodied person who has no mental issues, simply because he wants to be lazy and live in his poverty on the backs of working people... not a chance. So they kick the guy out.

You don't work, you don't eat. And again, we are talking about able bodied people, who don't have mental issues.

But this is the exact opposite of left-wing ideology, where AOC wants a living wage so people can be professional useless people, who sit at home being lazy on the backs of working people. This is the exact opposite of the Bernie, everyone is entitled to help, no matter how irresponsible they are.

Left-wing ideology encourages the worst of human behavior with rewards.

Please post the Cliff Notes version of your heroic charitable activities.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Glad I don't go to your church, Ram.

Me too.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Judge's Ruling Shows Religious Freedom Isn’t Just For The Christian Right

For Scott Warren, a 37-year-old geography teacher from Ajo, Arizona, freedom of religion means making sure migrants crossing a treacherous stretch of desert along the U.S.-Mexico border don’t die of dehydration.

What do you all think, does this fall under Religious Liberty?

This illustrates how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone with this ‘religious liberty’ nonsense.

Businesses open to the general public should be required to serve all patrons, business owners shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate based on their religious beliefs, as public accommodations laws are perfectly just and Constitutional.

Likewise, Scott Warren should be subject to prosecution for leaving water jugs in a wildlife refuge, where laws protecting such lands are also perfectly just and Constitutional.

Whether it’s public accommodations laws or laws protecting a wildlife refuge, neither measure imposes a burden on the exercising of one’s religion – ‘substantial’ or otherwise.

We need to return to making the rule of law paramount and stop undermining necessary, just, and proper laws with inane and unwarranted concerns about ‘religious liberty.’

 

[Andylusion]

And yet God, in His infinite wisdom told the Jews to build a wall! God, unlike our liberals, had no problem identifying the enemy...

So, illegals who cross the border without papers, a misdemeanor, makes them equivalent to God's enemy? Glad I don't go to your church, Ram.

Well... somewhat, yes. You know the law.... you know you are not supposed to break the law....

What does the bible say about lawlessness?

What Does the Bible Say About Lawlessness?

I don't see much there that is good.

Again, I have no problem with people coming to the US legally..... but illegally.... yeah, that's not something G-d is in favor of.

Well, I guess that I am going to hell, too, because I, too, committed a misdemeanor. I got a speeding ticket for 15 MPH over the speed limit. God, have mercy on me!

That's why I set my cruise control. I got exactly 65 in the 65 zone. People pass me on both sides, and I just smile.

Even then however, there is a huge difference between you accidentally speeding, and people who are knowingly, intentionally, choosing to violate the law.

Most people who are caught speeding, are just not paying attention. (again that's why I set the cruise. I am real bad at just looking down and going CRUD! I'm going to fast!).

But illegals are not just randomly wandering around, and accidentily crossing a desert and entering the country illegally.

It's not like they walk out of the desert in Tucson, and say "Wait! This isn't Hermosillo!!".

They know exactly what they are doing. That's why they are in the desert.

Even so.... lets even say that. G-d is all about repentance. You repent of speeding.... by not speeding anymore. For me, that's setting the cruise control.

For illegally entering the US, that's going back to Mexico, or where ever, and staying their or trying to enter legally.

Then you are not an enemy of G-d.

That illegal alien is conspiring to take your job at the chicken packing plant, of trimming off the beak and feet. Therefore, God is offended, and demands a crusade to rid him from our presence!

Does breaking the law, depend on motive?

"that speeder is conspiring to take your job at the chicken packing plant, of trimming off the beak and feet. Therefore, God is offended, and demands a crusade to rid him from our presence!"

Implication, you can do 200 mph in a school zone, because you are just trying to get to work?

Breaking the law, is breaking the law. If you don't like the law, then change it. But you don't sit there and give pathetic excuses for why breaking the law is perfectly fine.

Unless you can make the case that it is a direct violation of some sort of intrinsic human right.... but entering a country is not a human right. If you go to France, it's 3 years in prison, and you are banned from attempting to legally enter France for 10 years.

If you go to Mexico illegally, you'll spend 3 years in prison. Not only that, but law enforcement is required by law to assist in border enforcement *AND* so is the Mexican military *AND* native Mexicans are authorized to make citizen-arrests of illegals found in their country.

Denmark, 3 years in prison. Finland, 1 year in prison.

I could go on and on. The vast majority of all countries have laws against illegal immigration.

And I don't see people in those countries arguing that it should be different. Why are you making this case?

And if you are not making the case that people should be able to enter the country without us knowing who they are why they are coming, then you can't logically argue we should allow them to break the law, without penalty.

And if they shouldn't break the law, then you also should not be aiding criminal activity.

What part of this logic, is difficult?

 

[Andylusion]

So ironic.

What did God have to say about illegal immigrants?

The foreigners residing among you must be treated as native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.—Leviticus 19:34

Seems to me he is reminding us of another people, fleeing into a foreign country to escape terrible things....and how we should treat them. I am not seeing any strings attached either.

Jesus was a migrant. Imagine if he were born today...we’d separate the family and then deport them.

Jesus was a legal migrant. And his family did not violate the laws of the land. Therefore if Jesus family came to the US, they would not be violating our laws either, and thus wouldn't be separated.

If you are going to quote Leviticus, then you also have to follow 24:22

"You are to have the same law for the foreigner and the native-born. I am the LORD your God."​

Everyone has to follow the law. Doesn't matter if you are foreigner, we have laws, and you need to follow them.

Separation of families, is their fault. Not our fault. If you drink a beer, and get pulled over with your children in the car, you are going to be separated. You don't get the "family" exemption from being separated when you violate a law.

 

[Andylusion]

Well.... do you want more people dying, or less?

This is like California handing out free needles, which has resulted in mass increase in drug use and more illness and diseases.

The solution is to hinder and discourage risky behavior. Not encourage it.

The same is true in all areas of life. If you have an alcoholic or gambling brother-in-law, and he comes to you saying he blew this months rent....... Do you pay his rent? Or do you direct him to the nearest addiction center?

If you pay his rent, then he'll continue and get worse at his addition, until he destroys his life.

The solution is to direct him to the addition center. Let him face the consequences of his actions, and then he'll hopefully learn from his mistakes and choose not to do it.

And not only him, but other people seeing what happens to him will serve to teach them. If they see him drinking and partying, and you pay all his bills, other people will do the same.

If they see him getting kicked out of his apartment, and then end up in a addiction recovery center, they will learn that is a bad plan.

In all cases.... rewarding dangerous and risky behavior is a terrible terrible option that dooms more people to hurt and pain and suffering. And by the way, is the default ideological view of all left-wingers, and the result of their views is always pain and suffering for everyone.

There is an evangelical shelter operating, I believe in Texas right now, and they will help anyone that comes to the shelter, who is immigrating across the border. They do not at all, go find people in the desert, specifically for this reason. They don't want to encourage people to take an extremely dangerous trek through the desert. They want them to come across the border at a port of entry, and they will gladly serve food, give shelter, and provide family services, and even teach basic English classes to those who want it.

What you guys do.... kills people. Period.

What we do, helps people. End of story.

...and a very amusing story, too!

And 100% true, as well!

Yes, and feeding the hungry encourages them to stay on welfare!

Not really. Giving them free food from government does, yes. But actual real charity does not generally.

Feeding the hungry, doesn't mean letting them live off you, and most Christian charities operate on that idea.

For example, when I worked at the homeless shelter down town, the vast majority of people that stayed there, generally were out in a month.

In fact, one of the duties that I was part of, was creating move-in boxes. This was a large box of common items for moving into a apartment. We have family, and individual boxes. They would contain a set of plates, cups, silverware, bathroom items, soap, shampoo, towels, tooth paste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, even some small pillows and some bed sheets, and usually a 3 pack of light bulbs.

We made hundreds of those boxes.

When people came and stayed there, and fed there, and so on... part of real charity is not just doing that, but also helping people back on their feet.

Another example, is the convict shelter, again run by an evangelical mission. You can stay there, free room, free food, free everything. But... you have to get a job. Any job. Must work 40 hours a week, and they had work placement programs for all convicts. Again, no rent payment, nothing.

Also you must take a class. Any class. A class on typing. A class on pipe-fitting. A class on reading and writing if you need it. But you have to take a class.

All the food you can eat, no cost on a room, no other requirements. And these convicts would graduate from classes, and work full time jobs, and eventually they would move out.

Again... you are helping people to succeed in life. Not helping them stay in their miserable condition for life.

And this is where the Bible is very clear.... 2 Thess 3:10

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
​

So when a person shows up wanting food... yes you feed them. And you help them as best you can. But when you find out that they simply don't want to work, then you cut them off.

All those charities, have that as a rule. The homeless shelter, if the same guy in there for a month, has made no effort to enroll in a training program, has made no effort to get a job, then the shelter manager will sit the guy down, explain how this works, and if he still refuses to do anything... they kick him out.

Not going to feed some perfectly able bodied person who has no mental issues, simply because he wants to be lazy and live in his poverty on the backs of working people... not a chance. So they kick the guy out.

You don't work, you don't eat. And again, we are talking about able bodied people, who don't have mental issues.

But this is the exact opposite of left-wing ideology, where AOC wants a living wage so people can be professional useless people, who sit at home being lazy on the backs of working people. This is the exact opposite of the Bernie, everyone is entitled to help, no matter how irresponsible they are.

Left-wing ideology encourages the worst of human behavior with rewards.

Please post the Cliff Notes version of your heroic charitable activities.

I suppose that was pretty long read, for someone like you, who simply does not care about helping people.

 

[dblack]

Businesses open to the general public should be required to serve all patrons,

But they're not. They're only required to serve those who have enough political influence.

 

[DBA]

Judge's Ruling Shows Religious Freedom Isn’t Just For The Christian Right

For Scott Warren, a 37-year-old geography teacher from Ajo, Arizona, freedom of religion means making sure migrants crossing a treacherous stretch of desert along the U.S.-Mexico border don’t die of dehydration.

What do you all think, does this fall under Religious Liberty?

This will expose conservatives for the hypocrites they are; citizens will exercise their religious liberty in ways many on the right won’t like or approve of.

Conservatives can’t have it both ways.

How quickly liberals minds would change if these immigrants become citizens and turn Repblican one they realize that the Democratic Party is anti-religion, particularly Christianity. My guess is the Democrats would look to lock down the border as soon as possible. In the meantime, they are hoping the mainstream media will continue to do their work for them and brainwash new immigrants into voting for Democrats.

 

[DBA]

Religious freedom is not a license to commit criminal acts.

Giving aid and comfort to foreign invaders is treason, one of the most serious criminal acts that an American citizen can commit. This should not stand, any more than it would stand for someone to claim a religious obligation to rob banks, or murder unbelievers.

Wrong.

Immigrants and migrants entering the country are not ‘invaders.’

That an immigrant might be undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal.’

Undocumented immigrants are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of law.

Like most on the right you’re an ignorant, frightened, hateful bigot.

If they are here without authorization it is the equivalent of having a smoking gun in their hands. Deport immediately and prosecute those who helped.

Leaving food and water is encouraging more to come and those might not be so lucky. It is an argument used by the cartels in shaking down would be invaders. Don't worry. Stupid Americans leave supplies everywhere. More come. More die.

Irrelevant to the topic. Try making the case that there is no religious basis for helping people.

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

 

[DBA]

So ironic.

What did God have to say about illegal immigrants?

The foreigners residing among you must be treated as native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.—Leviticus 19:34

Seems to me he is reminding us of another people, fleeing into a foreign country to escape terrible things....and how we should treat them. I am not seeing any strings attached either.

Jesus was a migrant. Imagine if he were born today...we’d separate the family and then deport them.

You are making the ridiculously naive assumption that all the people crossing the border are nice, law abiding citizens who are seeking asylum. Some may be, if not most even, but the fact is that bad apples are crossing over as well and the ignorant and careless Democrats don't care because they are hoping these folks will be voting for them one day.

 

[occupied]

Wrong.

Immigrants and migrants entering the country are not ‘invaders.’

That an immigrant might be undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal.’

Undocumented immigrants are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of law.

Like most on the right you’re an ignorant, frightened, hateful bigot.

If they are here without authorization it is the equivalent of having a smoking gun in their hands. Deport immediately and prosecute those who helped.

Leaving food and water is encouraging more to come and those might not be so lucky. It is an argument used by the cartels in shaking down would be invaders. Don't worry. Stupid Americans leave supplies everywhere. More come. More die.

Irrelevant to the topic. Try making the case that there is no religious basis for helping people.

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

 

[DBA]

If they are here without authorization it is the equivalent of having a smoking gun in their hands. Deport immediately and prosecute those who helped.

Leaving food and water is encouraging more to come and those might not be so lucky. It is an argument used by the cartels in shaking down would be invaders. Don't worry. Stupid Americans leave supplies everywhere. More come. More die.

Irrelevant to the topic. Try making the case that there is no religious basis for helping people.

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

I am not in favor of people breaking the law nor encouraging it. Jesus also taught us to abide by the law. I am most in favor of creating a all to prevent the majority of this in the first place.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Irrelevant to the topic. Try making the case that there is no religious basis for helping people.

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

I am not in favor of people breaking the law nor encouraging it. Jesus also taught us to abide by the law. I am most in favor of creating a all to prevent the majority of this in the first place.

Leaving water to help keep people from dying does not encourage anyone to come here. That is bullshit and you are like the 5th person on this thread to make the claim and not a one of you can back it up.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So ironic.

What did God have to say about illegal immigrants?

The foreigners residing among you must be treated as native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.—Leviticus 19:34

Seems to me he is reminding us of another people, fleeing into a foreign country to escape terrible things....and how we should treat them. I am not seeing any strings attached either.

Jesus was a migrant. Imagine if he were born today...we’d separate the family and then deport them.

Jesus did not mention those who stole their way into the country illegally. Not all foreigners are here illegally.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

I am not in favor of people breaking the law nor encouraging it. Jesus also taught us to abide by the law. I am most in favor of creating a all to prevent the majority of this in the first place.

Leaving water to help keep people from dying does not encourage anyone to come here. That is bullshit and you are like the 5th person on this thread to make the claim and not a one of you can back it up.

Back it up????

The invaders are still coming.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

I am not in favor of people breaking the law nor encouraging it. Jesus also taught us to abide by the law. I am most in favor of creating a all to prevent the majority of this in the first place.

Leaving water to help keep people from dying does not encourage anyone to come here. That is bullshit and you are like the 5th person on this thread to make the claim and not a one of you can back it up.

Back it up????

The invaders are still coming.

And they come whether people leave water out or not...thanks for proving my point that leaving water is not what makes them come here.

 

[occupied]

Irrelevant to the topic. Try making the case that there is no religious basis for helping people.

The Bible makes the case quite well. If the invaders repented and went home, then they can be helped.

Go back and read the scripture I posted on page one, Jesus did not qualify his commandment to minister to the downtrodden. Quote the biblical basis for letting people die for lack of water.

Maybe you should leave milk and cookies out every night just in case someone breaks into your home and gets hungry and thirsty while looting. Better yet, leave them a few hundred dollars on the table...they obviously need the money. Would that be the Christian thing to do or just plain stupid?

Well now we know what side of this moral question you have taken. Funny how the people who think they own Jesus is firmly on the side of just letting people die.

I am not in favor of people breaking the law nor encouraging it. Jesus also taught us to abide by the law. I am most in favor of creating a all to prevent the majority of this in the first place.

Jesus didn't teach you anything if you think secular law is more important than helping alleviate suffering in the world.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Saying that giving water to illegal immigrants is encouraging or assisting them in illegally immigrating is the equivalent of saying feeding people in prison encourages them to commit new crimes.