Antisemitism is growing on American campuses

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I have never heard of IS being given pass by anyone. Someone is clutching at straws.

I think we both mean, actual nation-states that are Islamic.

 

[surada]

there are a lot of self-hating Jews with a death wish in Israel, mostly left wing, and while a lot of racist right wing Jews throw out the 'antisemite' card over any criticisms at all, the claim that Israel has no right to exist at all can certainly be classified as antisemitism. Also keep in mind there are ultra-Orthodox sects that oppose 'Zionism' as well.

An historical perspective on the 'new Left' and its antisemitism. It actually began rising on college campuses in the 1960's; this is old news.

Being Leftist and Anti-Semitic in Germany - Susanne Urban

Being Leftist and Anti-Semitic in Germany - Susanne Urban

www.jcpa.org

"Common Ground between Right and Left​

Today's German anti-Semitism is deeply connected to the Nazi period and the wish to expunge guilt and responsibility for dealing with it. Right-wing extremism, neo-Nazism, and extreme conservatism seem "naturally" linked to denial or minimalization of the Holocaust, or calling for a new one. As elsewhere in Europe, a relatively new "brotherhood" has emerged in Germany between the extreme Right and fundamentalist Islam.


Anti-Zionism, however - which is not mere criticism of Israeli policies, but the denial of the Jewish people's right to live in their own state - also links leftists and rightists. Since the Six Day War of 1967, both the extreme and the mainstream Left in Europe have shown strong anti-Zionist tendencies, not always distinguishable from anti-Semitism. Although leftist anti-Zionism seemed to decline after the fall of Communism in 1990, it was reanimated by the Second Intifada and the antiglobalization movement, which is today a main source of leftist anti-Semitism.


In a May 2002 survey in the weekly magazine Der Spiegel, 25% agreed that "what the state of Israel does to the Palestinians is no different than what the Nazis did during the Third Reich to the Jews."2 A new scholarly book analyzes how deeply anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are rooted in German society.3 Since 1989, united Germany seems to stand on two main pillars: a strong anti-American and anti-Israeli attitude.

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Student Radicalization​

During the Six Day War, the New Left definitively transformed its hitherto moderate pro-Arab positions into full support for Arab states and the Palestinians, and its fragile pro-Israeli attitudes dissolved into anti-Semitic slogans thinly disguised as "anti-imperialist" criticism of a "fascist state."


After 1967, however, not only the radicals but large parts of the German Left turned their backs on Israel. This went hand in hand with protests against the Vietnam War, against the conservative mainstream in Adenauer's Germany and afterward the "Great Coalition" that was headed from 1966 by Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger, a former member of the Nazi Party.6 The New Left also idealized Communist China and Ho Chi Minh, despite their involvement in mass murder against their own people.7


Well-known intellectuals who were more moderate leftists tried to dissuade the New Left from its extreme positions. Ernst Bloch, Jean Amery, Herbert Marcuse, Iring Fetscher, and Jean-Paul Sartre argued with the radicals and discouraged blind solidarity with the PLO, as opposed to legitimate criticism of Israeli policies. They warned that notions of Israel's annihilation were intolerable and linked to National Socialist ideology. However, they were not heeded by the radicals.8"

More at the link. Pseudo-intellectual 'academics' in U.S. universities and colleges were always slaves to Euro commie fads.

Islam has nothing to do with it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And we should be appalled by the human rights abuses in Muslim countries, or in any country. That includes the abuses against Muslims, in places like China and Myanmar.

 

[marvin martian]

And we should be appalled by the human rights abuses in Muslim countries, or in any country. That includes the abuses against Muslims, in places like China and Myanmar.

Your Chinese-owned president refuses to discuss that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your Chinese-owned president refuses to discuss that.

Oh yeah?

Biden signs bill banning goods from China's Xinjiang over abuse of Uyghurs

The measure is part of the U.S. pushback against Beijing's treatment of the China's Uyghur Muslim minority, which Washington has labeled genocide.

www.nbcnews.com

4 days ago. Please try to pay attention.

 

[surada]

Your Chinese-owned president refuses to discuss that.

LOLOL.. Aren't you pushing for the Keystone XL? Who do you think benefits?

 

[MisterBeale]

I can’t think of any, it just doesn’t like that big a deal other than tasteless.

What may, or may not seem like a "big deal," to you, seems to be something. . . that is based on emotion, or implicit bias.

For folks that have the opinion that national origin and borders no longer matter? I have no doubt, it is no big deal to them.

If you have any empathy skills at all, you might, just maybe, try to put yourself, in the shoes of folks that don't feel that way. By making a statement like, "it just doesn't seem like that big a deal," you. . in the words of social justice warriors, commit verbal violence on deeply held views of a large portion of America.

Just letting you know.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

For folks that have the opinion that national origin and borders no longer matter?

Like Israelis pushing for illegal settlements, per the laws and treaties to which they agreed.

Like them?

There is a lot of criticism to go around.

 

[Lisa558]

Give an example of another American that wrapped themselves in the flag of a foreign nation when they won elected office to this nation. . . I'll wait.

Can you imagine if upon Lee Zeldin’s election to Congress, he draped himself in the Israeli flag? The antisemitic Democrats would be screaming about “dual loyalty”. But because Tlaib belongs to one of the protected minorities - Muslims - it’s all fine and dandy.

 

[MisterBeale]

Can you imagine if upon Lee Zeldin’s election to Congress, he draped himself in the Israeli flag? The antisemitic Democrats would be screaming about “dual loyalty”. But because Tlaib belongs to one of the protected minorities - Muslims - it’s all fine and dandy.

Point of fact on the duel citizenship law. .. .

I find some monumental hypocrisy, and a plot to undermine the nation.

In most instances? The establishment denies the legitimacy of Titles of Nobility Amendment. But? then uses that as reasoning to incorporate duel citizenship, where only nine years before it denied a Mexican, so it is good enough for an Israeli Communist?

Nope, something stinks.

Afroyim v. Rusk - Wikipedia

Perez v. Brownell - Wikipedia

Nationality Act of 1940 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JoeB131]

How about you shut your Nazi mouth and realize you don't get a say?

Americans are already tired of sending their boys off to die for Zionists... Sorry.

More Islamic terrorist ass-kissing. You just can't help it, can you?

You're perfectly fine with Palestinians strapping bombs on their kids to kill Jews...and you somehow claim to hold the moral high ground.

Despicable.

I'm not okay with it... I just understand why it happens. These people are at war, and all is fair in love and war.

Secondly, if I came home tomorrow and my neighbors were putting up banners wishing my death and strapping bombs onto their kids to kill me... I'd move.

Third, WHY IS THIS MY PROBLEM? Why are we allowing the Zionist Entity to send our young men and women off to war so they can feel "safer"?

You sure do hate it when people don't validate your hatred of Jews.

I hate it when a bunch of foreigners play us for fools. Don't you?

 

[JoeB131]

HUH?! So you’re saying there’s an Islamic story about G-d turning Jews into apes and pigs, and you’re using that antisemitic Islamic teaching as your “source”?? Well, that’s the point, Jew-hater.

Um, you claimed that Muslims say that Jews evolved from Pigs. That's not what that story was about. For the record, I don't think God turned Jews into Apes. I also don't believe he sent she-bears to maul Jewish Children (2 Kings 2:23-24) for making fun of a bald prophet. I don't believe he drowned every baby in the world (Genesis 6) or any of the other horrible things he did in the Bible.

So are we going to have an argument over whose Magic Sky Fairy punished who the worst?

And why are you, being a liberal, on other threads going on about how awful racism is toward blacks? And then you spew your anti-Jew venom here?

Can we ratchet down the hysterics just a tad?

Coyote….THIS is what I’m talking about! These liberals who are enraged about what they perceive as horrible treatment of blacks, and then go on to repeat the disgusting Islamic attitudes about Jews.

Hey, tell you what, when the blacks have their own country and are mistreating a third party that had nothing to do with past wrongs, I'll be the first to come back here and condemn them.

You think that the Zionists walling in Palestinians into slums and bombing them on a regular basis is okay, but oh my gosh, some White Kid had to go to a community college because he didn't get into an elite school!!! Talk about someone who has no sense of perspective.

And P.S. Why all the venom for Jews chasing out Muslims? The Muslims chased out MORE Jews from THEIR homes.

That was already proven false. 850K Jews were driven out of the Islamic World and welcomed in Israel. 5.6 MILLION Palestinians live as refugees.

 

[JoeB131]

You STILL don’t recognize your pro-Muslim liberal bias, do you?

In the above, you are quick to defend the disgusting rhetoric of Quran, the very basis of Islamic teaching, by downplaying it and saying it does not say ALL Jews are apes and pigs (just some, apparently), and then in an attempt to offset that, pick out some isolated individuals who have said some disgusting things about Muslims

Except that the story is in a Hadith, not the Koran. Hadiths aren't scriptures. They could be considered literature of the Islamic World, but you' have to compare it to Christian literature of the same time.

My favorite was the Siege of Beziers during the Albegisinian Crusade. When asked how to tell a Heretic from a Christian, the Papal Legate said "Kill them all, for God knows his own". (Or Kill them all and let God sort them out.)

Yes, religious fanatics write all sorts of awful things.

Combat bigotry and hate? You just defended parents swathing their toddlers in fake suicide vests because it was just dress-up, and this despite the fact that you know the real ones are used to murder Jews and the intent of the parents is to instill murderous hatred. You HAVE to know this. You cannot possibly be that utterly stupid.

Okay, how is that any more horrifying than this...

 

[daveman]

It looks to be growing (or at least coming out) on the Right also.

You had a marvelous opportunity to condemn the anti-Semitism on the left.

You chose to throw it away.

 

[JoeB131]

The 900,000 Jews who were driven from Arab lands do not matter to her. I have pointed this out to her many times in the past, but she does not care. They are only Jews, after all, so they do not matter any more than it matters to her that over 3/4 of the Mandate of Palestine was given to Arabs.

Well, let's look at that. 850,000 Jews did relocate from Islamic Countries from 1948 to 1979. This was as much a policy encouraged by Israeli authorities as it was policies by the governments involved. But sure, some of them were driven out against their will. Oddly, none of them are living in Camps today.

MEANWHILE, according to the UN, 5.6 MILLION Palestinians are classified as displaced persons.

Palestinian refugees - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As of 2019, more than 5.6 million Palestinians were registered with UNRWA as refugees,[3] of which more than 1.5 million live in UNRWA-run camps.[4] The term "Palestine refugee" does not include internally displaced Palestinians, who became Israeli citizens and neither displaced Palestinian Jews. According to some estimates, as many as 1,050,000–1,380,000[5] people, who descend from displaced people of Mandatory Palestine are not registered under UNRWA and neither UNHCR mandates.

Seems like the Palestinians got the worst end of this deal.

 

[daveman]

The Islamic States get no pass. Which one is under our nuclear umbrella and gets such military and social aid from us?

Do you not see why they would be held to a higher standard?

Also, they are the western style democracy. So they get treated more like "a grown up" cou try. Sadly, we have lower expectations for the backwards Muslim countries. Can't make any progress at all with them, if we set and demand a Bar now that they are nowhere close to clearing.

You wear your White Man's Burden just as proudly as Comrade Iosef does. "Muslims are just brown people. They don't know any better!"

 

[Coyote]

OMG. Your anti-Jew, pro-Muslim bias jumps off the page with every post, although I admit you’re not as bad as some of the other liberals in this thread.

Link please, to where I condemned Jews as a group the way you claim.

Thank you.

 

[daveman]

Americans are already tired of sending their boys off to die for Zionists... Sorry.



I'm not okay with it... I just understand why it happens. These people are at war, and all is fair in love and war.

Secondly, if I came home tomorrow and my neighbors were putting up banners wishing my death and strapping bombs onto their kids to kill me... I'd move.

Third, WHY IS THIS MY PROBLEM? Why are we allowing the Zionist Entity to send our young men and women off to war so they can feel "safer"?



I hate it when a bunch of foreigners play us for fools. Don't you?

...says the guy obediently repeating Islamic terrorist propaganda.

 

[daveman]

Okay, how is that any more horrifying than this...

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Who are they being taught to kill?

 

[Coyote]

And we should be appalled by the human rights abuses in Muslim countries, or in any country. That includes the abuses against Muslims, in places like China and Myanmar.

Totally agree.

Yet, there were folks on here (rightwingers) who felt the Rohinga deserved it.