Any Privacy Difference Between Nat. Voter Registry & Nat. Gun Registry?

[Timmy]

You are right , we have 2nd protection. So why the freak out over "gun confiscation " when that would be blatently illegal ?

It's none of the federal government's business on firearm ownership, that's why a firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional.

And where is that written in the constitution?

You want people to provide cat scan results before they can vote , but gun Registration is rediculous ?

Show us in the Constitution were firearm ownership is any of the federal government business?
Only cowards would want a firearm registry. Please quit falling down the well

"Life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ". Ala being able to walk down the street without some nut job blowing my head off.

That is why we have the 2nd Amendment......to keep those guys from doing it to you...

And how's that working out ?

Illegal guns are so prevalent even A 17 yr old can afford one .

 

[Rustic]

Enforce the laws on the books, new frivolous gun laws are unnecessary. A firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional...
Criminals are called criminals because they perform criminal behavior thus, they do not obey laws. Jack weed

The laws on the books have been systematically weakened to the point of obvious ineffectiveness by the gun lobby. It's no secret. It's their motto and is pretty clearly evidenced.

What does this mean for the laws and enforcement? Nothing good. Like I laid out earlier, it's easy for buyers to purchase and sell into the black market. If you don't believe me, try looking it up rather than covering your ears and eyes and shouting fake news.

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

We don't live in England jack ass... you white folk left there for a reason.
If you want their socialism why don't you go back?

 

[2aguy]

Enforce the laws on the books, new frivolous gun laws are unnecessary. A firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional...
Criminals are called criminals because they perform criminal behavior thus, they do not obey laws. Jack weed

The laws on the books have been systematically weakened to the point of obvious ineffectiveness by the gun lobby. It's no secret. It's their motto and is pretty clearly evidenced.

What does this mean for the laws and enforcement? Nothing good. Like I laid out earlier, it's easy for buyers to purchase and sell into the black market. If you don't believe me, try looking it up rather than covering your ears and eyes and shouting fake news.

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Our gun crime rates are going down, British gun crime rates are skyrocketing...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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Voters’ perceptions of crime continue to conflict with reality

Official government crime statistics paint a strikingly different picture. Between 2008 and 2015 (the most recent year for which data are available), U.S. violent crime and property crime rates fell 19% and 23%, respectively, according to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program, which tallies serious crimes reported to police in more than 18,000 jurisdictions around the nation.

Another Justice Department agency, the Bureau of Justice Statistics, produces its own annual crime report, based on a survey of more than 90,000 households that counts crimes that aren’t reported to police in addition to those that are. BJS data show that violent crime and property crime rates fell 26% and 22%, respectively, between 2008 and 2015 (again, the most recent year available).

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These polling trends stand in sharp contrast to the long-term crime trends reported by the FBI and BJS. Both agencies have documented big decreases in violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s, when U.S. crime rates reached their peak. The BJS data, for instance, show that violent and property crime levels in 2015 were 77% and 69% below their 1993 levels, respectively.

 

[2aguy]

It's none of the federal government's business on firearm ownership, that's why a firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional.

And where is that written in the constitution?

You want people to provide cat scan results before they can vote , but gun Registration is rediculous ?

Show us in the Constitution were firearm ownership is any of the federal government business?
Only cowards would want a firearm registry. Please quit falling down the well

"Life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ". Ala being able to walk down the street without some nut job blowing my head off.

That is why we have the 2nd Amendment......to keep those guys from doing it to you...

And how's that working out ?

Illegal guns are so prevalent even A 17 yr old can afford one .

When you steal them, they are free....moron.

 

[Rustic]

The laws on the books have been systematically weakened to the point of obvious ineffectiveness by the gun lobby. It's no secret. It's their motto and is pretty clearly evidenced.

What does this mean for the laws and enforcement? Nothing good. Like I laid out earlier, it's easy for buyers to purchase and sell into the black market. If you don't believe me, try looking it up rather than covering your ears and eyes and shouting fake news.

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yes......their gun crime rate went up 42% in London last year....our gun crime rate went down 75% as more Americans bought and carried guns.....

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Timmy]

The laws on the books have been systematically weakened to the point of obvious ineffectiveness by the gun lobby. It's no secret. It's their motto and is pretty clearly evidenced.

What does this mean for the laws and enforcement? Nothing good. Like I laid out earlier, it's easy for buyers to purchase and sell into the black market. If you don't believe me, try looking it up rather than covering your ears and eyes and shouting fake news.

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yes......their gun crime rate went up 42% in London last year....our gun crime rate went down 75% as more Americans bought and carried guns.....

Another example of lying with stats !

Compare per capita , not the change from last year .

If London had 4 deaths and the next year 8 deaths you'd be "there gun deaths doubled "!

 

[Rustic]

It's none of the federal government's business on firearm ownership, that's why a firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional.

And where is that written in the constitution?

You want people to provide cat scan results before they can vote , but gun Registration is rediculous ?

Show us in the Constitution were firearm ownership is any of the federal government business?
Only cowards would want a firearm registry. Please quit falling down the well

"Life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ". Ala being able to walk down the street without some nut job blowing my head off.

That is why we have the 2nd Amendment......to keep those guys from doing it to you...

And how's that working out ?

Illegal guns are so prevalent even A 17 yr old can afford one .

Firearm ownership is no one else's business but the owner, stealing a firearm does not make anybody owner of a firearm. You need to quit falling down the well

 

[2aguy]

Enforce the laws on the books, new frivolous gun laws are unnecessary. A firearm registry is absolutely unconstitutional...
Criminals are called criminals because they perform criminal behavior thus, they do not obey laws. Jack weed

The laws on the books have been systematically weakened to the point of obvious ineffectiveness by the gun lobby. It's no secret. It's their motto and is pretty clearly evidenced.

What does this mean for the laws and enforcement? Nothing good. Like I laid out earlier, it's easy for buyers to purchase and sell into the black market. If you don't believe me, try looking it up rather than covering your ears and eyes and shouting fake news.

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yeah....42% increase is a big problem when you have already banned and confiscated guns...and you live on an island....

Met warns of steep rise in London gun and knife crime

Britain’s largest police force has warned there has been steep increases in gun and knife crime in the capital over the past year, adding that years of budget cuts may at least be partially responsible.

The Metropolitan police said gun and knife crime rose 42% and 24% respectively and that recorded crime was up across virtually every category, in figures released two days after Cressida Dick took over as commissioner.

 

[Rustic]

And where is that written in the constitution?

You want people to provide cat scan results before they can vote , but gun Registration is rediculous ?

Show us in the Constitution were firearm ownership is any of the federal government business?
Only cowards would want a firearm registry. Please quit falling down the well

"Life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ". Ala being able to walk down the street without some nut job blowing my head off.

That is why we have the 2nd Amendment......to keep those guys from doing it to you...

And how's that working out ?

Illegal guns are so prevalent even A 17 yr old can afford one .

When you steal them, they are free....moron.

You have to excuse timmy when he falls down the well... anti-gun nutters like him to not understand most violent crime is performed by criminals who do not obey laws that have stolen firearms in their possession. Rural area with high firearm ownership do not have this affliction...

 

[2aguy]

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yes......their gun crime rate went up 42% in London last year....our gun crime rate went down 75% as more Americans bought and carried guns.....

Another example of lying with stats !

Compare per capita , not the change from last year .

If London had 4 deaths and the next year 8 deaths you'd be "there gun deaths doubled "!

It's not lying with stats moron.......Britain confiscated guns, they banned guns.....they live on an island........and their gun crime rate is going up......not down...and the policies they are putting in place are not going to lower the gun crime rate, they are cutting their police forces, and they are engaging in attacking their police because of Political Correctness.......

 

[2aguy]

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

--------

“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yes......their gun crime rate went up 42% in London last year....our gun crime rate went down 75% as more Americans bought and carried guns.....

Another example of lying with stats !

Compare per capita , not the change from last year .

If London had 4 deaths and the next year 8 deaths you'd be "there gun deaths doubled "!

Moron...

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.


The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.

Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.

Gun and knife crime soaring in London, official figures show

More worryingly, there was also a rise in the number of guns being fired on London’s streets, up from 239 cases in 2015/16 to 306 cases in the last financial year.

There was also a 20 per cent increase in the rate of knife attacks involving injuries to victims, up from 3,663 to 4,415 in 2016/17.

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“We are concerned about the rise of gun crime and rise of knife crime offences committed by young people and the changing nature of the offenders. “

He said there was evidence that more young people are carrying knives for a variety of reasons including status, criminality and self-protection but said only around a quarter are affiliated with gangs.

He said police were focusing on reducing stabbings by taking weapons and dangerous offenders off the streets and trying to prevent and divert people from crime.
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“With double-digit growth in gun and knife crime - and a youth homicide almost every fortnight - the crime challenge for London is real and serious and has serious impacts for London’s most disadvantaged communities.”
He added: “With 600 victims of serious youth violence each month, the Met needs a new plan to tackle the violence on our capital’s streets if they are to help impoverished communities.
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Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

 

[2aguy]

How have they been weakened dipshit? Throwing that out, straight from your ass is meaningless....the problem is democrats keep letting violent criminals back onto the streets...including the same people you want arrested for trafficking in guns...

Notice who is trying to keep gun criminals in jail...the NRA...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The real question is why is it so easy for a 17 yr old to get a gun.

Britain is an island nation...they have banned and confiscated guns......and yet...their 17 year olds are also getting guns....how is that possible...

Liverpool youngster warns gun crime is 'creating fear in our city'

Young Liverpool FC star Trent Alexander-Arnold has encouraged children to stay away from street gangs and warned that gun crime is creating “fear in our city.”

Last month saw a spate of violence across Liverpool, with teenager Yusuf Sonko shot dead in Toxteth amid several other shooting incidents.

There were 11 shootings in June, including 10 over a 23-day period.

The Sonko murder followed a series of fatal shootings over the last year, which saw the deaths of Mark Hillman, Blake Brown, Thomas Baker and Aaron Lewis - and more than 30 other injury shootings.

Alexander-Arnold, from West Derby, called in to St Ambrose Primary in Speke to encourage local kids to stay away from gangs.

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“Gang and gun crime is a massive problem ...creating fear in our city. James’s workshops and message enable children to understand the realities and dangers and how to keep themselves safe. It’s a great project and message, and I hope other local sportspeople get involved so we can inspire and make our city a safer place for everyone.”

Nothing is 100%.

You want to compare englands gun crime stats wh ours?

Yes......their gun crime rate went up 42% in London last year....our gun crime rate went down 75% as more Americans bought and carried guns.....

Another example of lying with stats !

Compare per capita , not the change from last year .

If London had 4 deaths and the next year 8 deaths you'd be "there gun deaths doubled "!

And more gun violence across Britain, not just the 42% increase in London...

Violent crime rising in England and Wales, police figures show

The ONS says the police figures show “small but genuine increases in some types of high-harm but small-volume violent crime”. They include a 13% increase in gun crime to 5,864 incidents, driven by greater criminal use of handguns and shotguns. These figures are confirmed by ambulance response records.

 

[Timmy]

You gun freaks are so intellectually dishonest. None of you took up my apples to apples challenge on gun nut vs gun control states .

 

[2aguy]

You gun freaks are so intellectually dishonest. None of you took up my apples to apples challenge on gun nut vs gun control states .

Because it isn't an apples to apples challenge......the all white Massechuesetts to Arizona which is on the border with the Narco state of Mexico where the drug cartels do their business...nice try asswipe.

 

[postman]

The 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments say so.......and the made up right to privacy......you know, the one you guys made up...if you can kill your baby because of a Right to privacy then there is no government right to know if you own a gun....

Then there is no government right to know if you voted.

Right?

 

[2aguy]

You gun freaks are so intellectually dishonest. None of you took up my apples to apples challenge on gun nut vs gun control states .

I gave you a map of murder in every county in the U.S........and those counties with the most murder have the most gun control......that is as apples to apples as you can get, and it isn't cherry picking the way you want to do...

 

[2aguy]

The 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments say so.......and the made up right to privacy......you know, the one you guys made up...if you can kill your baby because of a Right to privacy then there is no government right to know if you own a gun....

Then there is no government right to know if you voted.

Right?

Yes...there is......so that you don't vote more than once. they can't know how you voted, just that you voted once, where you live, and no where else....

 

[Timmy]

You gun freaks are so intellectually dishonest. None of you took up my apples to apples challenge on gun nut vs gun control states .

Because it isn't an apples to apples challenge......the all white Massechuesetts to Arizona which is on the border with the Narco state of Mexico where the drug cartels do their business...nice try asswipe.

Fine . You choose the states .

 

[Timmy]

You gun freaks are so intellectually dishonest. None of you took up my apples to apples challenge on gun nut vs gun control states .

I gave you a map of murder in every county in the U.S........and those counties with the most murder have the most gun control......that is as apples to apples as you can get, and it isn't cherry picking the way you want to do...

Comparing hard # of NYC with like 9 million people to people killed in Little Rock with 500,000 population is dishonest .

 

[postman]

there is no government right to know if you own a gun....

Then there is no government right to know if you voted.
Right?

Yes...there is......so that you don't vote more than once. they can't know how you voted, just that you voted once, where you live, and no where else....

Isn't that a state government right, and not a right of the federal government?

10th amendment.