Are Blacks More Racist Than Whites? Most Americans Say Yes

[IM2]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

Another use of the false equivalence by whites pertains to the issues of history and cultural identification. For example, whites have been whining for years about why they cannot have a white history month. To ask this question, one must either be severely mentally challenged, suffering from psychosis, or are a racist purposefully building a strawman. I’m serious when I say that. I am always stumped when I am asked that question. Are these people really that stupid? Do they not pay attention to how American history has been portrayed? Is it that just because it’s not called white history do they not think that whites have not been described as part of history?


How much plainer does it need to be made? The founders of this nation were all white men. Do we need to say that 55 white men founded this nation for whites to feel they have been given their accurate place in American history? Do we describe George Washington as the first white president and continue to name 44 presidents as the white presidents for some whites to understand just how much white history has been taught? They whine about February but what do we call the other months in reference to American history? Should we call the 11 other months of the year white history month so that whites can understand?

 

[IM2]

What's your point? Anything?

You know my point bitch and you understand it completely Mr.White free stuff.

I didn't get anything for free, I worked for what I have. You should try it sometime.

Sorry bud, but the facts show that whites have been by far the largest recipients of government handouts.

I never have. Poor you.

Sure Taz.

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

Another use of the false equivalence by whites pertains to the issues of history and cultural identification. For example, whites have been whining for years about why they cannot have a white history month. To ask this question, one must either be severely mentally challenged, suffering from psychosis, or are a racist purposefully building a strawman. I’m serious when I say that. I am always stumped when I am asked that question. Are these people really that stupid? Do they not pay attention to how American history has been portrayed? Is it that just because it’s not called white history do they not think that whites have not been described as part of history?


How much plainer does it need to be made? The founders of this nation were all white men. Do we need to say that 55 white men founded this nation for whites to feel they have been given their accurate place in American history? Do we describe George Washington as the first white president and continue to name 44 presidents as the white presidents for some whites to understand just how much white history has been taught? They whine about February but what do we call the other months in reference to American history? Should we call the 11 other months of the year white history month so that whites can understand?

See? You went apeshit, I was right. Again.

 

[IM2]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

 

[IM2]

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

Another use of the false equivalence by whites pertains to the issues of history and cultural identification. For example, whites have been whining for years about why they cannot have a white history month. To ask this question, one must either be severely mentally challenged, suffering from psychosis, or are a racist purposefully building a strawman. I’m serious when I say that. I am always stumped when I am asked that question. Are these people really that stupid? Do they not pay attention to how American history has been portrayed? Is it that just because it’s not called white history do they not think that whites have not been described as part of history?


How much plainer does it need to be made? The founders of this nation were all white men. Do we need to say that 55 white men founded this nation for whites to feel they have been given their accurate place in American history? Do we describe George Washington as the first white president and continue to name 44 presidents as the white presidents for some whites to understand just how much white history has been taught? They whine about February but what do we call the other months in reference to American history? Should we call the 11 other months of the year white history month so that whites can understand?

See? You went apeshit, I was right. Again.

You have not ever been right before and nothing has changed.

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

This is one of the first subjects I talked about when I started posting on message boards. Are Blacks on average more racist than whites?
I've always believed that they are. Something that I discovered growing up was that almost every black in America thinks about race every day, whereas most whites don't. There's a reason for this, but this simple fact is being used by the left to divide America.

A Rassmussen survey asked the question 5 years ago, and my guess is it would be even worse today.

Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Americans consider blacks more likely to be racist than whites and Hispanics in this country.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults think most black Americans are racist, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 15% consider most white Americans racist, while 18% say the same of most Hispanic Americans. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

There is a huge ideological difference on this topic. Among conservative Americans, 49% consider most blacks racist, and only 12% see most whites that way. Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans.

From a partisan perspective, 49% of Republicans see most black Americans as racist, along with 36% of unaffiliated adults and 29% of Democrats.

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

Among white adults, 10% think most white Americans are racist; 38% believe most blacks are racist, and 17% say most Hispanics are racist.

Overall, just 30% of all Americans now rate race relations in the United States as good or excellent. Fourteen percent (14%) describe them as poor. Twenty-nine percent (29%) think race relations are getting better, while 32% believe they are getting worse. Thirty-five percent (35%) feel they are staying about the same.

These figures reflect more pessimism than was found in April when 42% gave race relations positive marks and 39% said race relations were improving. However, the April number reflected all-time highs while the current numbers are more consistent with the general attitudes of recent years.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Adults was conducted on July 1-2, 2013 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

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Blacks are slightly more optimistic about the current state of race relations in American than whites and Hispanics are. But 37% of blacks and 38% of Hispanics believe those relations are getting worse, compared to 29% of whites.​

Links

Questions - Racism - July 1-2, 2013 - Rasmussen Reports®

More Americans View Blacks As Racist Than Whites, Hispanics - Rasmussen Reports®​

Chris Rock is not the person to cite on this topic.

But this man is.

Why white Americans don’t see themselves when they hear the word ‘race’



So do us a favor, provide to us the list of laws and policies enacted by blacks that were done to deny whites or you Asians equal opportunity.

Because:

Why Do We Call Asian Americans The Model Minority? | AJ+



Stay puppitized because you are dumb and this is expected.

The Democrats make politics about race because they are Racist.

 

[JQPublic1]

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

Unless angry whites decide to burn down prosperous black communities and projects again.

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

You do know that you're not talking to impoverished Blacks here don't you? You'll have to look elsewhere...You're wasting your time giving unneeded advice to the well heeled black gents posting on USMB. I suspect most of us are probably wealthier and more successful than you can hope to be. Just sayin'

Not likely (about being wealthier).

But I'm talking in general, sure, there are successful blacks and they didn't get that way by standing around waiting for a hand-out... oops, I mean reparations, like IM2 thinks it should be like.

Well, no...many blacks accumulated their fortunes via sports, entertainment and as clergy. But most stay above the poverty line by working several marginal jobs that dont pay living wages. And couples cohabit to raise their children: even as white statisticians ignore this, relying instead on marriage data to mislabel black men publicly as absentee fathers..
Another pervasive myth is the notion of widespread violence, especially murder, in black populations.
Only 12 out of every 100,000 blacks were arrested in 2016 for murder OR negligent homicide but that miniscule number is embellished proportionally to indict the majority of non criminal blacks.
I could go on and on but what's the use?
You don't care. You're locked into your social conditioning and many blacks are too.
But I'll keep putting my worldview out there
Because some one has to defend decent black citizens against the blitz of hate directed against us by overwhelming forces.

 

[JQPublic1]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. (racist comment deleted)

They did say All lives matter until white people showed blacks their lives were less valuable. Since Black cops aren't killing dozens of unarmed white people across the nation there is no need for equal billing on the BLM signs.

 

[JQPublic1]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

You've already got 11 other months snd all school curriculums to highlight white history.
Why would you give all that up and reduce your history to one fuggin month?

 

[JQPublic1]

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

Another use of the false equivalence by whites pertains to the issues of history and cultural identification. For example, whites have been whining for years about why they cannot have a white history month. To ask this question, one must either be severely mentally challenged, suffering from psychosis, or are a racist purposefully building a strawman. I’m serious when I say that. I am always stumped when I am asked that question. Are these people really that stupid? Do they not pay attention to how American history has been portrayed? Is it that just because it’s not called white history do they not think that whites have not been described as part of history?


How much plainer does it need to be made? The founders of this nation were all white men. Do we need to say that 55 white men founded this nation for whites to feel they have been given their accurate place in American history? Do we describe George Washington as the first white president and continue to name 44 presidents as the white presidents for some whites to understand just how much white history has been taught? They whine about February but what do we call the other months in reference to American history? Should we call the 11 other months of the year white history month so that whites can understand?

See? You went apeshit, I was right. Again.

No, he didn't. He threw a cyber left hook that knocked you on your ass.

 

[JQPublic1]

This is one of the first subjects I talked about when I started posting on message boards. Are Blacks on average more racist than whites?
I've always believed that they are. Something that I discovered growing up was that almost every black in America thinks about race every day, whereas most whites don't. There's a reason for this, but this simple fact is being used by the left to divide America.

A Rassmussen survey asked the question 5 years ago, and my guess is it would be even worse today.

Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Americans consider blacks more likely to be racist than whites and Hispanics in this country.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults think most black Americans are racist, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 15% consider most white Americans racist, while 18% say the same of most Hispanic Americans. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

There is a huge ideological difference on this topic. Among conservative Americans, 49% consider most blacks racist, and only 12% see most whites that way. Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans.

From a partisan perspective, 49% of Republicans see most black Americans as racist, along with 36% of unaffiliated adults and 29% of Democrats.

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

Among white adults, 10% think most white Americans are racist; 38% believe most blacks are racist, and 17% say most Hispanics are racist.

Overall, just 30% of all Americans now rate race relations in the United States as good or excellent. Fourteen percent (14%) describe them as poor. Twenty-nine percent (29%) think race relations are getting better, while 32% believe they are getting worse. Thirty-five percent (35%) feel they are staying about the same.

These figures reflect more pessimism than was found in April when 42% gave race relations positive marks and 39% said race relations were improving. However, the April number reflected all-time highs while the current numbers are more consistent with the general attitudes of recent years.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Adults was conducted on July 1-2, 2013 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

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Blacks are slightly more optimistic about the current state of race relations in American than whites and Hispanics are. But 37% of blacks and 38% of Hispanics believe those relations are getting worse, compared to 29% of whites.​

Links

Questions - Racism - July 1-2, 2013 - Rasmussen Reports®

More Americans View Blacks As Racist Than Whites, Hispanics - Rasmussen Reports®​

Chris Rock is not the person to cite on this topic.

But this man is.

Why white Americans don’t see themselves when they hear the word ‘race’



So do us a favor, provide to us the list of laws and policies enacted by blacks that were done to deny whites or you Asians equal opportunity.

Because:

Why Do We Call Asian Americans The Model Minority? | AJ+



Stay puppitized because you are dumb and this is expected.

The Democrats make politics about race because they are Racist.

Who told you that?

 

[JQPublic1]

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

I'd rather eat health food like bananas and watermelon instead of the carcinogen filled fast food and sugar filled drinks White Americans are killing us and themselves with.

 

[Yarddog]

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

Plantains are better than bananas, secondly, I get tired of the monkey references to black people. If they are monkeys than all of us are as well. The differences between black and white people are extremely slight. We all have the same blood. Time to get over the 5th grade mentality a long time ago, and people who cant do that are only debasing themself

 

[ATL]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

You have left reality and arrived at stupidity. You didn't even need GPS, it's a frequently traveled route.

 

[ATL]

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

Plantains are better than bananas, secondly, I get tired of the monkey references to black people. If they are monkeys than all of us are as well. The differences between black and white people are extremely slight. We all have the same blood. Time to get over the 5th grade mentality a long time ago, and people who cant do that are only debasing themself

Amazing how so many are calling IM2 racist, yet someone like TAZ makes a racist post, and those hollering racist are nowhere to be found...

 

[Taz]

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

You do know that you're not talking to impoverished Blacks here don't you? You'll have to look elsewhere...You're wasting your time giving unneeded advice to the well heeled black gents posting on USMB. I suspect most of us are probably wealthier and more successful than you can hope to be. Just sayin'

Not likely (about being wealthier).

But I'm talking in general, sure, there are successful blacks and they didn't get that way by standing around waiting for a hand-out... oops, I mean reparations, like IM2 thinks it should be like.

Well, no...many blacks accumulated their fortunes via sports, entertainment and as clergy. But most stay above the poverty line by working several marginal jobs that dont pay living wages. And couples cohabit to raise their children: even as white statisticians ignore this, relying instead on marriage data to mislabel black men publicly as absentee fathers..
Another pervasive myth is the notion of widespread violence, especially murder, in black populations.
Only 12 out of every 100,000 blacks were arrested in 2016 for murder OR negligent homicide but that miniscule number is embellished proportionally to indict the majority of non criminal blacks.
I could go on and on but what's the use?
You don't care. You're locked into your social conditioning and many blacks are too.
But I'll keep putting my worldview out there
Because some one has to defend decent black citizens against the blitz of hate directed against us by overwhelming forces.

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

Plantains are better than bananas, secondly, I get tired of the monkey references to black people. If they are monkeys than all of us are as well. The differences between black and white people are extremely slight. We all have the same blood. Time to get over the 5th grade mentality a long time ago, and people who cant do that are only debasing themself

i made a reference to bananas, YOU made it about monkeys.

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.

Stop lying. Who has stopped any white man from saying what ever the fuck he wants to say? Another white man? Who is this anonymous cretin that has your tongue in his hands...name him. It sure isn't big daddy Trump. I thought he set you free.

You all would cry RACISM!!! so fucking loud if someone tried to have a white history month. Like TOTALLY APESHIT!!!!!

You have left reality and arrived at stupidity. You didn't even need GPS, it's a frequently traveled route.

Frequently travelled by who? You?

 

[Taz]

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

Plantains are better than bananas, secondly, I get tired of the monkey references to black people. If they are monkeys than all of us are as well. The differences between black and white people are extremely slight. We all have the same blood. Time to get over the 5th grade mentality a long time ago, and people who cant do that are only debasing themself

Amazing how so many are calling IM2 racist, yet someone like TAZ makes a racist post, and those hollering racist are nowhere to be found...

Now bananas are racist?

 

[JQPublic1]

• C

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

You do know that you're not talking to impoverished Blacks here don't you? You'll have to look elsewhere...You're wasting your time giving unneeded advice to the well heeled black gents posting on USMB. I suspect most of us are probably wealthier and more successful than you can hope to be. Just sayin'

Not likely (about being wealthier).

But I'm talking in general, sure, there are successful blacks and they didn't get that way by standing around waiting for a hand-out... oops, I mean reparations, like IM2 thinks it should be like.

Well, no...many blacks accumulated their fortunes via sports, entertainment and as clergy. But most stay above the poverty line by working several marginal jobs that dont pay living wages. And couples cohabit to raise their children: even as white statisticians ignore this, relying instead on marriage data to mislabel black men publicly as absentee fathers..
Another pervasive myth is the notion of widespread violence, especially murder, in black populations.
Only 12 out of every 100,000 blacks were arrested in 2016 for murder OR negligent homicide but that miniscule number is embellished proportionally to indict the majority of non criminal blacks.
I could go on and on but what's the use?
You don't care. You're locked into your social conditioning and many blacks are too.
But I'll keep putting my worldview out there
Because some one has to defend decent black citizens against the blitz of hate directed against us by overwhelming forces.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences.

What part of that do you not understand?

If they weren't racist, they'd say ALL LIVES MATTER. Now go eat some bananas, you seem to be low in vitamin B6.

BLM is not racist. There is no debate to be had with your punk ass about it.I just reported your ass. Because I'm tired of you calling me a monkey. Don't play stupid and try making up a story about how that's not what you meant because that's exactly what you meant..

B6 in bananas is good for brain function, which is what you would need, better brain function.

Plantains are better than bananas, secondly, I get tired of the monkey references to black people. If they are monkeys than all of us are as well. The differences between black and white people are extremely slight. We all have the same blood. Time to get over the 5th grade mentality a long time ago, and people who cant do that are only debasing themself

i made a reference to bananas, YOU made it about monkeys.

No i didn't...pay attention to who said what.