Are Blacks More Racist Than Whites? Most Americans Say Yes

[baileyn45]

Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.

This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.


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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.

Your an idiot. In what none dictatorial political construct does there not exist an opposition party? If you think that liberalism is based upon race, the world over, you are an idiot.

In conclusion: You are an idiot.

You're either a liar or a fool....you can choose.



This is the reason why Liberals keep the racism farrago going:


But, the Dems can's take a chance on losing the black constituency....so, here we are.
They're pretty much saddled with this donkey.


"...what would happen if a smaller percentage of blacks turned out:

- At 90 percent black turn-out, Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes slide into the GOP column.

- At 75 percent black turn-out, Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes go Republican.

- At 70 percent Michigan’s 17 electoral votes turn from blue to red.

- At 50 percent the GOP collects Delawre’s three electoral votes.

I don’t know what a realistic number to project is for the effects of angry black apathy, but I’ll stop at 50 percent. It may be that going as low as 75 percent is unrealistic. Most likely it’s impossible to say. (And this doesn’t take into account things like congressional districts where black voters make the margin of difference.)"

Do Democrats need the black vote? | RobertEmmet





But what exactly would that mean? In how many states do black voters make the difference? I ran some rough numbers over at Robert Emmet -- check them out. Depending on how much of a drop-off you assume, it could cost the Democrats 10 to 76 electoral votes.

The Democrats and the Black Vote | HuffPost



Democrats are heavily dependent on the black vote. That’s an opportunity for the GOP.
The black vote has become important enough to the Democratic party that a small drop in support could make a big difference.

in the 1992 election, 13 percent of the Democratic vote came from black voters. In 2014, it was 23 percent.

That's the overall trend. On a state-by-state basis -- which is much more important in presidential politics -- it's more complex.

If there'd been a one-point swing from Obama to McCain in North Carolina in 2008, McCain would have won the state. And if the black vote in Florida and Ohio in 2012 had been as strong for the Republicans as it was in 2004 -- in the pre-Obama era -- Romney would have won both." Democrats are heavily dependent on the black vote. That’s an opportunity for the GOP.

The democrats are not dependent upon the black vote. The Democratic party was a viable party winning elections before blacks started voting democrat in large percentages. What happened is that RACE led many whites to vacate the democratic party due to the dems support of efforts to undo racial injustice. If there were no blacks in this country the majority of whites would lean to the left politically, like whites do in nearly every other white majority nation.

What a crock. Study a little history. The "dixiecrats" never left the dems. With the exception of strom thurmand. the Dems have been the party of racists since before Lincoln and continue to be.If you are black and don't vote dem you have "left the plantation". If black america continues to vote dem, they will forever be victims and never escape the bondage they percieve.

 

[baileyn45]

I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?

Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.

On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.

Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.

This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.

Wow are YOU ignorant. a lot of White people in both parties have racial issues. The White democrats in Ferguson proved that. On the whole, however, the appeal of the Democrat support for labor has brought smart white and black people together under the Democrat umbrella for the common good.

I'm ignorant? Ferguson? Some punk idiot gets his ass shot while trying to disarm a cop? And no that's not the attitude of some white supremacist, it's the testimony of black eye witnesses. Ever wonder why the Eric Holder led dept of justice didn't proceed with charges? No "white evil people there". Must really piss the left off. If only he'd really had his hands up saying " don't shoot". Unfortunately, for the left it never happened. It will of course not stop the left from pretending otherwise. Why miss a chance to make up bull puckey.

As far as, "White people in both parties have racial issues", you base this on what? I've spent 58 years in Cleveland, Ohio, have I seen racists? Sure, but you are 50 years behind the times. No one gives a crap anymore. The dems can not survive with that reality.

 

[baileyn45]

You were not a slave, you are due nothing from slavery. So, you are saying because a white man was free but chose to fight for the blacks to be free, they aren't worthy of compensation too? If it weren't for them, blacks might not have gained their freedom.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Who freed the slaves?

Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was limited to freeing only slaves in states that had seceded--slave masters in the border states that had remained officially neutral were exempt, as were any parts of the Confederacy already under Union control. Still, the document was a recognition that the goals of a Union victory to keep the United States together and the destruction of slavery were tied together and inseparable. Since the proclamation could only apply in reality if the North won the war, the Northern army became a de facto army of liberation--with slaves escaping to Union lines to gain their freedom.

Soon thereafter, the Union finally agreed to arm and train Black soldiers. Large numbers of Black men poured into the Union Army, more than half of them former slaves. Their sacrifices were enormous. Blacks suffered a casualty rate 40 percent higher than white soldiers (of the 38,000 who died, only 2,870 were actually killed in combat, reflecting the horrific living conditions for these soldiers.)

Black troops fought in nearly every major campaign. As a result of one battle alone in Virginia, 14 African Americans received the Medal of Honor. Yet these soldiers faced discrimination at every turn--racist treatment at the hands of all-white officers, disparity in pay, the worst assignments, outdated equipment.

Some white officers fought for the dignity of their troops. Robert Gould Shaw, the commander of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, whose story was immortalized in the excellent film Glory, was one example. The entire 54th--including the white officers who weren't subject to unfair wages--refused their unequal pay for an entire year. Towards the end of the war, the government relented and granted full and equal back pay.

Not surprisingly, armed Black soldiers terrified the Confederacy, which vowed to return to slavery or put to death any so-called "slave insurrectionists" caught in uniform (as well as any white officers leading them).

Blacks also played a crucial role in the war effort from behind Southern lines--engaging in sabotage, strikes, individual acts of violence, conspiracy, rebellion and marronage (forming illegal communities.) These slave disturbances drained Confederate resources, with militia and army units forced to patrol at home rather than fight the Union Army.

Confederate President Jefferson Davis' own slaves eavesdropped on his meetings--and passed information to Union agents, who were often Black women.

One of the more brazen acts of resistance came on the morning of May 13, 1862. Robert Smalls and a crew of seven other slaves snuck aboard the Confederate ship Planter with their families and piloted it over to Union lines. Smalls joined the Union Navy--and later became a five-term member of Congress from South Carolina during the short-lived Reconstruction era.

African American resistance is important to note because conservative historians attempted to obliterate this record.

Who freed the slaves?

The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says United Nations

The United Nations released its final report this week outlining a host of concerns about the treatment of African-Americans in the United States.

In short, it isn’t pretty, and it’s a reflection of what many activists have been saying for a long time.

The 22-page document issued by the U.N. Working Group includes 37 “manifestations of racial discrimination” in criminal justice, health care, education, and more.

Many of the conclusions relate to criminal justice, specifically policing and incarceration and their relation to history.

"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent," the report states. "Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching. Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency."

The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says U.N. Report

Those whites who died fighting were paid. You don't get reparations for choosing to join the army. And as you see if you can read are that the violations extend to today and are not just about slavery.

Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.

Blacks today are owed. Your excuses do not cover for the fact that all who were wronged by this government have got reparations but us. You are just repeating silly white racist opinion without thinking. Whites have not worked get what they have. You've been shown that. This is not just about slavery. But you are dumb so you don't have the capacity to understand that reality. So run along molly because you're dumb and until you get better informed maybe you'd better off staying quiet untii you are.

There you go with your name calling again. Everything i have i worked for, no handouts. Nothing you have done has benefitted me, i owe you nothing. It is a shame that you resort to demeaning replies instead of showing hiw you came to your conclusions, realistic conclusions.

I have shown you actual supreme court cases and you still cling to ignorance. The US government does owe us. And when you can understand that we are asking the US government instead of arguing the race baited and race pimped argument of how we are asking for your money, then I will treat you with respect,. As long as you continue arguing race baited garbage it's going to be called that.

You really don't get it. No one can ever give you what you seek. Money? Screw you. It will accomplish nothing. Racial quotas? It will accomplish nothing. I keep hearing about "white supremacy", and yet asians come here and do great, caribbean black folks come here and do great, people come from africa and do great, what do they have in common? Attitude, they aren't victims. They are individual human beings that have decided to stand up. And the "white supremacist"
society has not only embraced them but they are thriving.

It always blows my mind. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and the most successful, intelligent black people I meet are from Kenya or Nigeria. What is the difference? They weren't told to not study, it's "too white". They stand on their own, not relying on "woe is me' No one gives a damn about the color of skin, who you are as a human being matters. If you are whining useless twit you will treated as such.

 

[JQPublic1]

I've given you the source of my premise so what prompted YOUR conclusions?

Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.

On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.

Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.

"Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue."

You can't really believe that, can you? I know 8 year olds that aren't that stupid.

The vile racism that "permeates" the internet? A bunch of 14 year olds sitting in their parents basement, trying to get a rise out of idiots? And succeeding?

Russians posing as BLM? And the Trump supporters are naive?

Putin is truly grinning. "hey someone put a green frog on the internet, let's watch people freak out about fascism".

You are in denial. Virtually every news media outlet out there has reported on this, yet somehow you missed it.
You need to get your face out of the video games and start watching the world around you. But I I'm amazed to learn that you really didn't know that some of the stuff right-wing conservatives point to as militant BLM rhetoric is really Russians posing as BLM.
Russians were also the impetus behind some of .the Trump rallies. Does it take a rocket scientist to connect the dots?

Connect the dots? Dear lord child, every media outlet has reported on this, and show me the one with any proof to their assertions other than another media outlet reporting on it. This is what's known as a circle jerk. "CNN has reported that the Wash Post has an article citing the BBC who has named anonymous sources...". Repeat nonsense long enough, idiots believe it. How do people on the left get on with their lives? The russians control everything in the media, the nazis are everywhere, patriarchy, misogyny, racism, white supremacy, the phobia olympics (trans, homom, islam....). it must be a miserable way to live.

And your sources are better than mine? BTW
the few sources you named above are just the "tip of the iceberg." keep looking...you've got hundreds more to go. Pay attention to those articles written by the people who actually researched the evidence..

 

[JQPublic1]

Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.

On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.

Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.

This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.


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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.

Wow are YOU ignorant. a lot of White people in both parties have racial issues. The White democrats in Ferguson proved that. On the whole, however, the appeal of the Democrat support for labor has brought smart white and black people together under the Democrat umbrella for the common good.

I'm ignorant? Ferguson? Some punk idiot gets his ass shot while trying to disarm a cop? And no that's not the attitude of some white supremacist, it's the testimony of black eye witnesses. Ever wonder why the Eric Holder led dept of justice didn't proceed with charges? No "white evil people there". Must really piss the left off. If only he'd really had his hands up saying " don't shoot". Unfortunately, for the left it never happened. It will of course not stop the left from pretending otherwise. Why miss a chance to make up bull puckey.

As far as, "White people in both parties have racial issues", you base this on what? I've spent 58 years in Cleveland, Ohio, have I seen racists? Sure, but you are 50 years behind the times. No one gives a crap anymore. The dems can not survive with that reality.

I didn't mention Micharl Brown on purpose. I was trying to get you to focus on the scathing DOJ report that outlined a laundry list of discriminatory practices by city hall against the black citizens thereof. Do i have your attention?

The 12 key highlights from the DOJ’s scathing Ferguson report

 

[JQPublic1]

This whole topic is probably a Russian bot contrivance constructed to inflame and divide on an impossible to prove and meaningless point. Who is more racist? What a totally useless subject.


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The Russians need do nothing. Without screaming "racism" there would be no democratic party.

Your an idiot. In what none dictatorial political construct does there not exist an opposition party? If you think that liberalism is based upon race, the world over, you are an idiot.

In conclusion: You are an idiot.

You're either a liar or a fool....you can choose.



This is the reason why Liberals keep the racism farrago going:


But, the Dems can's take a chance on losing the black constituency....so, here we are.
They're pretty much saddled with this donkey.


"...what would happen if a smaller percentage of blacks turned out:

- At 90 percent black turn-out, Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes slide into the GOP column.

- At 75 percent black turn-out, Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes go Republican.

- At 70 percent Michigan’s 17 electoral votes turn from blue to red.

- At 50 percent the GOP collects Delawre’s three electoral votes.

I don’t know what a realistic number to project is for the effects of angry black apathy, but I’ll stop at 50 percent. It may be that going as low as 75 percent is unrealistic. Most likely it’s impossible to say. (And this doesn’t take into account things like congressional districts where black voters make the margin of difference.)"

Do Democrats need the black vote? | RobertEmmet





But what exactly would that mean? In how many states do black voters make the difference? I ran some rough numbers over at Robert Emmet -- check them out. Depending on how much of a drop-off you assume, it could cost the Democrats 10 to 76 electoral votes.

The Democrats and the Black Vote | HuffPost



Democrats are heavily dependent on the black vote. That’s an opportunity for the GOP.
The black vote has become important enough to the Democratic party that a small drop in support could make a big difference.

in the 1992 election, 13 percent of the Democratic vote came from black voters. In 2014, it was 23 percent.

That's the overall trend. On a state-by-state basis -- which is much more important in presidential politics -- it's more complex.

If there'd been a one-point swing from Obama to McCain in North Carolina in 2008, McCain would have won the state. And if the black vote in Florida and Ohio in 2012 had been as strong for the Republicans as it was in 2004 -- in the pre-Obama era -- Romney would have won both." Democrats are heavily dependent on the black vote. That’s an opportunity for the GOP.

The democrats are not dependent upon the black vote. The Democratic party was a viable party winning elections before blacks started voting democrat in large percentages. What happened is that RACE led many whites to vacate the democratic party due to the dems support of efforts to undo racial injustice. If there were no blacks in this country the majority of whites would lean to the left politically, like whites do in nearly every other white majority nation.

What a crock. Study a little history. The "dixiecrats" never left the dems. With the exception of strom thurmand. the Dems have been the party of racists since before Lincoln and continue to be.If you are black and don't vote dem you have "left the plantation". If black america continues to vote dem, they will forever be victims and never escape the bondage they percieve.

I don't know if you are just showing your ignorance or that you are just conscientiously stupid.. Who the fuck said anything about a few politicians called the dixiecrats? We are talking about the mass exodus of millions of white racist Southern conservatives from the Democrat party into the Republican party..
That old style conservatism , originating in the Old Southern Democrat Party, was touted by every white hate group in the south, all of them driven to join the GOP when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Bill. And blacks, the majority of whom had been Republicans, reacted to the unprecedented gesture by voting Democrat ever since.

 

[IM2]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Who freed the slaves?

Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was limited to freeing only slaves in states that had seceded--slave masters in the border states that had remained officially neutral were exempt, as were any parts of the Confederacy already under Union control. Still, the document was a recognition that the goals of a Union victory to keep the United States together and the destruction of slavery were tied together and inseparable. Since the proclamation could only apply in reality if the North won the war, the Northern army became a de facto army of liberation--with slaves escaping to Union lines to gain their freedom.

Soon thereafter, the Union finally agreed to arm and train Black soldiers. Large numbers of Black men poured into the Union Army, more than half of them former slaves. Their sacrifices were enormous. Blacks suffered a casualty rate 40 percent higher than white soldiers (of the 38,000 who died, only 2,870 were actually killed in combat, reflecting the horrific living conditions for these soldiers.)

Black troops fought in nearly every major campaign. As a result of one battle alone in Virginia, 14 African Americans received the Medal of Honor. Yet these soldiers faced discrimination at every turn--racist treatment at the hands of all-white officers, disparity in pay, the worst assignments, outdated equipment.

Some white officers fought for the dignity of their troops. Robert Gould Shaw, the commander of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, whose story was immortalized in the excellent film Glory, was one example. The entire 54th--including the white officers who weren't subject to unfair wages--refused their unequal pay for an entire year. Towards the end of the war, the government relented and granted full and equal back pay.

Not surprisingly, armed Black soldiers terrified the Confederacy, which vowed to return to slavery or put to death any so-called "slave insurrectionists" caught in uniform (as well as any white officers leading them).

Blacks also played a crucial role in the war effort from behind Southern lines--engaging in sabotage, strikes, individual acts of violence, conspiracy, rebellion and marronage (forming illegal communities.) These slave disturbances drained Confederate resources, with militia and army units forced to patrol at home rather than fight the Union Army.

Confederate President Jefferson Davis' own slaves eavesdropped on his meetings--and passed information to Union agents, who were often Black women.

One of the more brazen acts of resistance came on the morning of May 13, 1862. Robert Smalls and a crew of seven other slaves snuck aboard the Confederate ship Planter with their families and piloted it over to Union lines. Smalls joined the Union Navy--and later became a five-term member of Congress from South Carolina during the short-lived Reconstruction era.

African American resistance is important to note because conservative historians attempted to obliterate this record.

Who freed the slaves?

The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says United Nations

The United Nations released its final report this week outlining a host of concerns about the treatment of African-Americans in the United States.

In short, it isn’t pretty, and it’s a reflection of what many activists have been saying for a long time.

The 22-page document issued by the U.N. Working Group includes 37 “manifestations of racial discrimination” in criminal justice, health care, education, and more.

Many of the conclusions relate to criminal justice, specifically policing and incarceration and their relation to history.

"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent," the report states. "Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching. Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency."

The U.S. Owes African-Americans Reparations, Says U.N. Report

Those whites who died fighting were paid. You don't get reparations for choosing to join the army. And as you see if you can read are that the violations extend to today and are not just about slavery.

Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.

Blacks today are owed. Your excuses do not cover for the fact that all who were wronged by this government have got reparations but us. You are just repeating silly white racist opinion without thinking. Whites have not worked get what they have. You've been shown that. This is not just about slavery. But you are dumb so you don't have the capacity to understand that reality. So run along molly because you're dumb and until you get better informed maybe you'd better off staying quiet untii you are.

There you go with your name calling again. Everything i have i worked for, no handouts. Nothing you have done has benefitted me, i owe you nothing. It is a shame that you resort to demeaning replies instead of showing hiw you came to your conclusions, realistic conclusions.

I have shown you actual supreme court cases and you still cling to ignorance. The US government does owe us. And when you can understand that we are asking the US government instead of arguing the race baited and race pimped argument of how we are asking for your money, then I will treat you with respect,. As long as you continue arguing race baited garbage it's going to be called that.

You really don't get it. No one can ever give you what you seek. Money? Screw you. It will accomplish nothing. Racial quotas? It will accomplish nothing. I keep hearing about "white supremacy", and yet asians come here and do great, caribbean black folks come here and do great, people come from africa and do great, what do they have in common? Attitude, they aren't victims. They are individual human beings that have decided to stand up. And the "white supremacist"
society has not only embraced them but they are thriving.

It always blows my mind. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and the most successful, intelligent black people I meet are from Kenya or Nigeria. What is the difference? They weren't told to not study, it's "too white". They stand on their own, not relying on "woe is me' No one gives a damn about the color of skin, who you are as a human being matters. If you are whining useless twit you will treated as such.

Whites have been given everything by this government since it started. For 188 years racial quotas were 100 percent white. That's what you don't get. Until you do, shut up.

50 years after the Kerner Commission
African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

The year 1968 was a watershed in American history and black America’s ongoing fight for equality. In April of that year, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in Memphis and riots broke out in cities around the country. Rising against this tragedy, the Civil Rights Act of 1968 outlawing housing discrimination was signed into law. Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised their fists in a black power salute as they received their medals at the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City. Arthur Ashe became the first African American to win the U.S. Open singles title, and Shirley Chisholm became the first African American woman elected to the House of Representatives.

The same year, the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, better known as the Kerner Commission, delivered a report to President Johnson examining the causes of civil unrest in African American communities. The report named “white racism”—leading to “pervasive discrimination in employment, education and housing”—as the culprit, and the report’s authors called for a commitment to “the realization of common opportunities for all within a single [racially undivided] society.”1 The Kerner Commission report pulled together a comprehensive array of data to assess the specific economic and social inequities confronting African Americans in 1968.

Where do we stand as a society today?

In this brief report, we compare the state of black workers and their families in 1968 with the circumstances of their descendants today, 50 years after the Kerner report was released. We find both good news and bad news. While African Americans are in many ways better off in absolute terms than they were in 1968, they are still disadvantaged in important ways relative to whites. In several important respects, African Americans have actually lost ground relative to whites, and, in a few cases, even relative to African Americans in 1968.

Following are some of the key findings:

50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

I'm done arguing with dumb people. I know the facts. Apparently you don't.

 

[IM2]

How The U.S. Government Gave White Americans An Advantage

 

[baileyn45]

Reality. Not the ramblings of morons on the internet. Have you ever bothered to look at how americans view race? In 1960 4% of americans approved of interracial marriage, in 2010 that number was 87%. My god the horrors of racism rearing it's ugly head.

On a personal level, I grew up in a predominantly white suburb. I went and watched the 4th of July fireworks last year in the same park I watched as a child. White kids, black kids, chinese kids, arab kids, indian kids, korean kids, hispanic kids and a whole boatload that I'd have to guess what mix. None of them segregated, just like the parents. Oh No, racism everywhere.
The political left in this country MUST keep race alive as an issue, otherwise they have nothing.

Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue. Trump rules by texting and he galvanizes his base by that means. That reality in and of itself denotes the seriousness of the vile racism that permeates the Internet. Russia has discovered that medium to be useful too. Some of the hate is generated by Russians posing as Black Lives Matter bloggers or or Trump supporters. And the naive Trump bots suck it up and become emboldened by it. Putin is, in the meantime grinning from ear to ear.

"Rumblings of "morons" on the Internet are more reflective of true feelings than face to face dialogue."

You can't really believe that, can you? I know 8 year olds that aren't that stupid.

The vile racism that "permeates" the internet? A bunch of 14 year olds sitting in their parents basement, trying to get a rise out of idiots? And succeeding?

Russians posing as BLM? And the Trump supporters are naive?

Putin is truly grinning. "hey someone put a green frog on the internet, let's watch people freak out about fascism".

You are in denial. Virtually every news media outlet out there has reported on this, yet somehow you missed it.
You need to get your face out of the video games and start watching the world around you. But I I'm amazed to learn that you really didn't know that some of the stuff right-wing conservatives point to as militant BLM rhetoric is really Russians posing as BLM.
Russians were also the impetus behind some of .the Trump rallies. Does it take a rocket scientist to connect the dots?

Connect the dots? Dear lord child, every media outlet has reported on this, and show me the one with any proof to their assertions other than another media outlet reporting on it. This is what's known as a circle jerk. "CNN has reported that the Wash Post has an article citing the BBC who has named anonymous sources...". Repeat nonsense long enough, idiots believe it. How do people on the left get on with their lives? The russians control everything in the media, the nazis are everywhere, patriarchy, misogyny, racism, white supremacy, the phobia olympics (trans, homom, islam....). it must be a miserable way to live.

And your sources are better than mine? BTW
the few sources you named above are just the "tip of the iceberg." keep looking...you've got hundreds more to go. Pay attention to those articles written by the people who actually researched the evidence..

Research? Do some of your own. Every year in the US there are roughly the same number of confrontations between whites and police and blacks and police. Every year nearly twice as many whites die. Racism, right? If you get into a confrontation with the police in the US you are statistically twice as likely to die in that confrontation if you are white. Go ahead, prove me wrong, without the opinions of CNN(hint: you can find the answers at the DOJ, try doing it yourself and not rely on the "hundreds of of people reporting each others bull puckey". I've done my home work. Find those in he MSM that have done the same, you can't.

 

[baileyn45]

Blacks today are owed nothing. How do you know who is or who is not a decendent of slaves? How do you pay those mixed people who's parents were blacks who willingly had children with whites? How about everyone work for what they get and not expect handouts, that is what that is. I can't control whether or not the Native Americans get reparations. This does not mean everyone who had oppressed ancestors are due something.

Blacks today are owed. Your excuses do not cover for the fact that all who were wronged by this government have got reparations but us. You are just repeating silly white racist opinion without thinking. Whites have not worked get what they have. You've been shown that. This is not just about slavery. But you are dumb so you don't have the capacity to understand that reality. So run along molly because you're dumb and until you get better informed maybe you'd better off staying quiet untii you are.

There you go with your name calling again. Everything i have i worked for, no handouts. Nothing you have done has benefitted me, i owe you nothing. It is a shame that you resort to demeaning replies instead of showing hiw you came to your conclusions, realistic conclusions.

I have shown you actual supreme court cases and you still cling to ignorance. The US government does owe us. And when you can understand that we are asking the US government instead of arguing the race baited and race pimped argument of how we are asking for your money, then I will treat you with respect,. As long as you continue arguing race baited garbage it's going to be called that.

You really don't get it. No one can ever give you what you seek. Money? Screw you. It will accomplish nothing. Racial quotas? It will accomplish nothing. I keep hearing about "white supremacy", and yet asians come here and do great, caribbean black folks come here and do great, people come from africa and do great, what do they have in common? Attitude, they aren't victims. They are individual human beings that have decided to stand up. And the "white supremacist"
society has not only embraced them but they are thriving.

It always blows my mind. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and the most successful, intelligent black people I meet are from Kenya or Nigeria. What is the difference? They weren't told to not study, it's "too white". They stand on their own, not relying on "woe is me' No one gives a damn about the color of skin, who you are as a human being matters. If you are whining useless twit you will treated as such.

Whites have been given everything by this government since it started. For 188 years racial quotas were 100 percent white. That's what you don't get. Until you do, shut up.

50 years after the Kerner Commission
African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

The year 1968 was a watershed in American history and black America’s ongoing fight for equality. In April of that year, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in Memphis and riots broke out in cities around the country. Rising against this tragedy, the Civil Rights Act of 1968 outlawing housing discrimination was signed into law. Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised their fists in a black power salute as they received their medals at the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City. Arthur Ashe became the first African American to win the U.S. Open singles title, and Shirley Chisholm became the first African American woman elected to the House of Representatives.

The same year, the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, better known as the Kerner Commission, delivered a report to President Johnson examining the causes of civil unrest in African American communities. The report named “white racism”—leading to “pervasive discrimination in employment, education and housing”—as the culprit, and the report’s authors called for a commitment to “the realization of common opportunities for all within a single [racially undivided] society.”1 The Kerner Commission report pulled together a comprehensive array of data to assess the specific economic and social inequities confronting African Americans in 1968.

Where do we stand as a society today?

In this brief report, we compare the state of black workers and their families in 1968 with the circumstances of their descendants today, 50 years after the Kerner report was released. We find both good news and bad news. While African Americans are in many ways better off in absolute terms than they were in 1968, they are still disadvantaged in important ways relative to whites. In several important respects, African Americans have actually lost ground relative to whites, and, in a few cases, even relative to African Americans in 1968.

Following are some of the key findings:
The difference is that once give
50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

I'm done arguing with dumb people. I know the facts. Apparently you don't.

1968? That's 2 years after my mothers father died of black lung. My fathers father died from the same way 5 year later. Do you know what the govt did for them? During the mine strikes they were occasionally allowed to pick potatoes from govt fields. 2 of my 5 aunts were born in those fields. Tell me more of who has given my people what. The difference is that once given a chance they took it. They didn't spend their lives being a professional victims. Life has sucked for the majority of people that have come to this country, quit whining and stand, or don't, and wait for handouts and special treatment /pity.

 

[IM2]

Blacks today are owed. Your excuses do not cover for the fact that all who were wronged by this government have got reparations but us. You are just repeating silly white racist opinion without thinking. Whites have not worked get what they have. You've been shown that. This is not just about slavery. But you are dumb so you don't have the capacity to understand that reality. So run along molly because you're dumb and until you get better informed maybe you'd better off staying quiet untii you are.

There you go with your name calling again. Everything i have i worked for, no handouts. Nothing you have done has benefitted me, i owe you nothing. It is a shame that you resort to demeaning replies instead of showing hiw you came to your conclusions, realistic conclusions.

I have shown you actual supreme court cases and you still cling to ignorance. The US government does owe us. And when you can understand that we are asking the US government instead of arguing the race baited and race pimped argument of how we are asking for your money, then I will treat you with respect,. As long as you continue arguing race baited garbage it's going to be called that.

You really don't get it. No one can ever give you what you seek. Money? Screw you. It will accomplish nothing. Racial quotas? It will accomplish nothing. I keep hearing about "white supremacy", and yet asians come here and do great, caribbean black folks come here and do great, people come from africa and do great, what do they have in common? Attitude, they aren't victims. They are individual human beings that have decided to stand up. And the "white supremacist"
society has not only embraced them but they are thriving.

It always blows my mind. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and the most successful, intelligent black people I meet are from Kenya or Nigeria. What is the difference? They weren't told to not study, it's "too white". They stand on their own, not relying on "woe is me' No one gives a damn about the color of skin, who you are as a human being matters. If you are whining useless twit you will treated as such.

Whites have been given everything by this government since it started. For 188 years racial quotas were 100 percent white. That's what you don't get. Until you do, shut up.

50 years after the Kerner Commission
African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

The year 1968 was a watershed in American history and black America’s ongoing fight for equality. In April of that year, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in Memphis and riots broke out in cities around the country. Rising against this tragedy, the Civil Rights Act of 1968 outlawing housing discrimination was signed into law. Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised their fists in a black power salute as they received their medals at the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City. Arthur Ashe became the first African American to win the U.S. Open singles title, and Shirley Chisholm became the first African American woman elected to the House of Representatives.

The same year, the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, better known as the Kerner Commission, delivered a report to President Johnson examining the causes of civil unrest in African American communities. The report named “white racism”—leading to “pervasive discrimination in employment, education and housing”—as the culprit, and the report’s authors called for a commitment to “the realization of common opportunities for all within a single [racially undivided] society.”1 The Kerner Commission report pulled together a comprehensive array of data to assess the specific economic and social inequities confronting African Americans in 1968.

Where do we stand as a society today?

In this brief report, we compare the state of black workers and their families in 1968 with the circumstances of their descendants today, 50 years after the Kerner report was released. We find both good news and bad news. While African Americans are in many ways better off in absolute terms than they were in 1968, they are still disadvantaged in important ways relative to whites. In several important respects, African Americans have actually lost ground relative to whites, and, in a few cases, even relative to African Americans in 1968.

Following are some of the key findings:
The difference is that once give
50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

I'm done arguing with dumb people. I know the facts. Apparently you don't.

1968? That's 2 years after my mothers father died of black lung. My fathers father died from the same way 5 year later. Do you know what the govt did for them? During the mine strikes they were occasionally allowed to pick potatoes from govt fields. 2 of my 5 aunts were born in those fields. Tell me more of who has given my people what. The difference is that once given a chance they took it. They didn't spend their lives being a professional victims. Life has sucked for the majority of people that have come to this country, quit whining and stand, or don't, and wait for handouts and special treatment /pity.

The report saod that 50 years later that African-Americans are still disadvantaged. The present is what they are talking about. But let me answer your first question.

Black Lung Benefits Act of 1973

The Black Lung Benefits Act (BLBA) is a U.S. federal law which provides monthly payments and medical benefits to coal miners totally disabled from pneumoconiosis (black lung disease) arising from employment in or around the nation's coal mines. The law also provides monthly benefits to a miner's dependent survivors if pneumoconiosis caused or hastened the miner's death.

Black Lung Benefits Act of 1973 - Wikipedia

Now just be quiet since it's apparent you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[IM2]

The matter has been addressed by a UN commitee with results favoring reparations for the black collective domiciled in America.
Proposals for dissemination of the judgement agreed upon were narrowed to one that is most practical:

"full implementation of special programs based on education, socioeconomic, and environmental rights."

UN committee urges US government to pay reparations for slavery

How do you suppose they figure out who gets what?

I would personally propose that every native born black citizen be eligible for sponsorship in the special programs suggested by the UN.

Not all native born black people came from slavery. A lot of native born black people are mixed races. Again, how do you determine how much and who gets what?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

Unless angry whites decide to burn down prosperous black communities and projects again.

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

 

[Taz]

How do you suppose they figure out who gets what?

I would personally propose that every native born black citizen be eligible for sponsorship in the special programs suggested by the UN.

Not all native born black people came from slavery. A lot of native born black people are mixed races. Again, how do you determine how much and who gets what?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

Unless angry whites decide to burn down prosperous black communities and projects again.

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

 

[IM2]

I would personally propose that every native born black citizen be eligible for sponsorship in the special programs suggested by the UN.

Not all native born black people came from slavery. A lot of native born black people are mixed races. Again, how do you determine how much and who gets what?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

Unless angry whites decide to burn down prosperous black communities and projects again.

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

 

[IM2]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

 

[Taz]

Not all native born black people came from slavery. A lot of native born black people are mixed races. Again, how do you determine how much and who gets what?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

Unless angry whites decide to burn down prosperous black communities and projects again.

You just want hand outs instead of working and earning your way. If you are successful, why do you need charity?

And you actually think what we have endured means we are asking for charity? Then you wondrr why you get called dumb? You can't read apparetly?

All native born blacks faced racial discrimination and American Aparthied. A mixed race black was considered black. .I think if you are going to argue, you should know what you are arguing abut instead of seeking ways to discredit an argument based in not knowing any of the facts. I am quite sure we are capable of determining eligibility for reparations and the majority opinion seems to be that the money be put in funds for specific types of programs instead of paying individuals. If you thought about this with some common sense instead of race baited thinking, you would see this is the perfect solution. If blacks are awarded reparations and we piss it away with no improvements, we have nothing more to complain about as whites would have done all they could do to make up for the wrongs done..

So I will not get any money unless I am developing a program or business in the black community to increase economic development and growth in that community.

So read this again and understand that you have no logical argument.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion


A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites

Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights Act was enacted almost 40 years ago.

What we don't readily acknowledge is that racial preferences have a long, institutional history in this country - a white history. Here are a few ways in which government programs and practices have channeled wealth and opportunities to white people at the expense of others.

Let us continue....

Affirmative action in the American "workplace" first began in the late 17th century when European indentured servants - the original source of unfree labor on the new tobacco plantations of Virginia and Maryland - were replaced by African slaves. In exchange for their support and their policing of the growing slave population, lower-class Europeans won new rights, entitlements, and opportunities from the planter elite.

White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers. The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.

The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only "free white persons" to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property. In this century, Alien Land Laws passed in California and other states, reserved farm land for white growers by preventing Asian immigrants, ineligible to become citizens, from owning or leasing land. Immigration restrictions further limited opportunities for nonwhite groups. Racial barriers to naturalized U.S. citizenship weren't removed until the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, and white racial preferences in immigration remained until 1965.

In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman's Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave "40 acres and a mule" as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation - not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.

When slavery ended, its legacy lived on not only in the impoverished condition of Black people but in the wealth and prosperity that accrued to white slaveowners and their descendents. Economists who try to place a dollar value on how much white Americans have profited from 200 years of unpaid slave labor, including interest, begin their estimates at $1 trillion.

Let us continue.....

Less known are more recent government racial preferences, first enacted during the New Deal, that directed wealth to white families and continue to shape life opportunities and chances.

The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian. As low-income workers, they also had the least opportunity to save for their retirement. They couldn't pass wealth on to their children. Just the opposite. Their children had to support them.

Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s. In 1972, for example, every single one of the 3,000 members of Los Angeles Steam Fitters Local #250 was still white.

But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.

Let us continue....

Today, Black and Latino mortgage applicants are still 60% more likely than whites to be turned down for a loan, even after controlling for employment, financial, and neighborhood factors. According to the Census, whites are more likely to be segregated than any other group. As recently as 1993, 86% of suburban whites still lived in neighborhoods with a black population of less than 1%.

Let us continue....

One result of the generations of preferential treatment for whites is that a typical white family today has on average eight times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family, according to economist Edward Wolff. Even when families of the same income are compared, white families have more than twice the wealth of Black families. Much of that wealth difference can be attributed to the value of one's home, and how much one inherited from parents.

But a family's net worth is not simply the finish line, it's also the starting point for the next generation. Those with wealth pass their assets on to their children - by financing a college education, lending a hand during hard times, or assisting with the down payment for a home. Some economists estimate that up to 80 percent of lifetime wealth accumulation depends on these intergenerational transfers. White advantage is passed down, from parent to child to grand-child. As a result, the racial wealth gap - and the head start enjoyed by whites - appears to have grown since the civil rights days.

In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion | White Advantage

Of course you'll use the I did not get, I did not do argument. I doesn't exist at the macro level. WE do. And we are talking about a macro level situation. Do you know the difference between micro and macro level?

"In 1865, just after Emancipation, it is not surprising that African Americans owned 0.5 percent of the total worth of the United States. But by 1990, a full 135 years after the abolition of slavery, Black Americans still possessed only a meager 1 percent of national wealth."

So maybe it's time for you all to pull your pants up, stay in school, then get to work?

Or are you expecting someone to simply give it to you?

What's your point? Anything?

 

[JQPublic1]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

For White People Who Compare Black Lives Matter to White Supremacy

Argument: Both white supremacists and Black Lives Matter are racist.
White supremacist groups like the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the American Nazi Party and others are specifically dedicated to the uplift and empowerment of white people. A few white supremacists and alt-right adherents claim that they aren’t racist and that they have no qualm with people of other colors, genders and sexualities. This notion is the simplest to debunk of all. Simply send a person of color to a KKK meeting, a neo-Nazi gathering or a white nationalist convention and watch what happens.

Conversely, every Black Lives Matter meeting, rally or symposium is filled with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual preferences. Black Lives Matter states it is “committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.”

https://www.theroot.com/for-white-people-who-compare-black-lives-matter-to-whit-1798349198

Both orgs promote their own race. But at one BLM protest, they hired a bus to get there and wanted the whites to sit in the back.

 

[Taz]

BLM is the black KKK. But BLM = good, and KKK = bad. As per usual.

Not even close.

Both promote their own race. But these days, whites aren't allowed to.