Are Blacks More Racist Than Whites? Most Americans Say Yes

[IM2]

You're a joke. I've never said you had to agree with me. You came in here talking about standing up to someone and got your ass handed to you. We do not have to accept your racist views, and we don't have to tolerate them. Refusing to tolerate racism is not bigotry. And blacks doing that are not extremists. There are no black extremists here.

I don't have a definition of racism, but the dictionary does.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b : a political or social system founded on racism

So you show me where in the hell this definition says that opposing racist ideology and beliefs such as what you have presented is racism.

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

This reply is a continuation of posts 1445 and 1448:

I have established in prior posts that the founders created a Constitution that was specific to building a constitutional Republic for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (their race) as evidenced by most of the early state constitutions.

America has fought many wars to secure the Liberties of foreign nations - and all without claiming a single acre of land for themselves. The policies of this country include giving BILLIONS of dollars to countries whose people wanting their own homeland. katsteve2012 wrote:

"Those are thinly veiled inferences that unless you study the past, you will not understand.

Keeping with thought, those "ideals" often translate to this "statement" in the minds of non whites:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

I would say that katsteve2012 was at least 80 percent right in that assessment. What pisses me off about the whites is that, it is like katsteve2012 says, "Those are thinly veiled inferences..." In my mind, whites don't have a clue as to their history nor their destiny. In many cases they DO cherry pick which laws and which tidbits they want to post on these boards in support of their ideology - which is almost as weak as that of the black extremists.

I realize that black people don't want to hear this, but whites DID build this nation. Pharaoh Khufu is credited with building the Great Pyramid in about 2551 B.C. So, when you Google him you will find that he is credited with that feat. Did he haul the rocks, sweat his ass off, and do the physical labor? No. Did he draw up the blueprints and supervise all the laborers? So, who were the people that DID the physical labor? Nobody cares and nobody bothers to record it for the most part.

Our system of laws; the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the many major decisions that took the idea and put them into an achievable form in the United States was the product of white people.

Their intention was to build a homeland for whites. While you think on that I'm going to be thinking about the rest of the answer to katsteve2012's response that every tax paying citizen has a "right" to be here. He'll be coming back. He cannot afford to miss the answer.

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

You're a spineless little man / woman without integrity, courage, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears to me that you are getting your ass kicked on a forum made up of a cross section of America and you want others to step into an all black forum because when the audience is diverse, you are being laughed at for the nutjob you've proven to be.

LOL!

 

[MizMolly]

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

.]
You would think using the "N" word amongst themselves would be nothing but a reason to incite anger with white people, why use a word you hate to be called by white people, unless it is to start shit?

These ae just 2..
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You call people racists (as I've pointed out before.) You just dance around the subject and let others hint at it while you second their sentiment. You're part of that group people call the KIan with a tan.

There is no klan with a tan. What you define as racism is not racism.

How was that post racist? Wtf?

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

.]
You would think using the "N" word amongst themselves would be nothing but a reason to incite anger with white people, why use a word you hate to be called by white people, unless it is to start shit?

These ae just 2..
.

You call people racists (as I've pointed out before.) You just dance around the subject and let others hint at it while you second their sentiment. You're part of that group people call the KIan with a tan.

There is no klan with a tan. What you define as racism is not racism.

Total bullshit. I have never said anything racist.

Of course you never have Molly. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Truth

 

[Cecilie1200]

Feigned affront
vs.
The following - the first image should be very familiar to some of you - what were you all saying about "that's the past"? I'd swear I've heard some of these "slogans" as recently as the last 30 days)

Hate is hate, and henious crimes are henious crimes no matter what color you are. Now go and get all the tragic cases of hate crimes and murder over the years be it white or black victims involved.

Those you noted above are definitely tragic and sad for sure, and most in America find such history and current events deplorable.

Dwelling on the past when the majority is moving on from it, does make the motives appear suspect when asking for money and such to be distributed to individuals that are not true to the causes of abolishing racism. Sadly they may actually take the money in order to fuel the hate and vengeful thinking of those who would use the past for evil intent and purposes, instead of truly using it as a way for all here to continue to heal by finally someday being unified, and not instead being divided.

This section of USMB is a high definition exhibition of how the majority hasn't moved past a damn thing. And if you want us to stop asking for reparations then stop paying Native Americans reparations for things that happened in the past.

Or drop that argument.

1) This is an exhibition of how YOU haven't moved past a damned thing, and the majority has moved past caring about your whining and sniveling.

2) We don't pay reparations to Native Americans, Chuckles. You're talking out of your ass. Again.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

.]
You would think using the "N" word amongst themselves would be nothing but a reason to incite anger with white people, why use a word you hate to be called by white people, unless it is to start shit?

These ae just 2..
.

You call people racists (as I've pointed out before.) You just dance around the subject and let others hint at it while you second their sentiment. You're part of that group people call the KIan with a tan.

There is no klan with a tan. What you define as racism is not racism.

How was that post racist? Wtf?

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

These ae just 2..
.

You call people racists (as I've pointed out before.) You just dance around the subject and let others hint at it while you second their sentiment. You're part of that group people call the KIan with a tan.

There is no klan with a tan. What you define as racism is not racism.

Total bullshit. I have never said anything racist.

Of course you never have Molly. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Truth

Here's how you're racist, Molly. You might wanna take notes for future reference.

1) You did not immediately slap on a hair shirt and grovel for forgiveness because you were born with low melanin content in your skin.

2) You have not shouted a single mea culpa because people who lived over a century before you were born - who may or may not have been distantly related to you, but who knows? - kept slaves who lived over a century before IM was born, and may or may not have been distantly related to HIM.

3) In short, you have completely failed to invalidate IM2's belief that his life is garbage because some eeeeevil conspiracy of white people is personally targeting him, rather than because he's a meaningless piece of shit who hasn't earned an iota of the self-esteem he feels himself entitled to.

There. Now you know. Don't do it again.

 

[MizMolly]

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

.]
You would think using the "N" word amongst themselves would be nothing but a reason to incite anger with white people, why use a word you hate to be called by white people, unless it is to start shit?

These ae just 2..
.

Actually, that's just one. Maybe spend a little less time and energy being butthurt, and a little more getting educated and being coherent.

Also, she didn't say anything racist. She asked a perfectly valid, logical question. The fact that you don't like it is not evidence of racism . . . at least, not on HER part.

Thank you. I did not say anything racist. This is the thought of all white people I know. I really could care less what anyone calls each other. If they deem this a term of endearment, bless their warped hearts. It was just my opinion that using the word was ironic considering blacks hate whites using it. Even if it has different meanings, why in the hell would someone want to use a word they find offensive? It was a question, not a racist statement

 

[MizMolly]

Molly doesn't seem to understand why she's been called a racist. In her mind she's has never made a racist commemt.

.]
You would think using the "N" word amongst themselves would be nothing but a reason to incite anger with white people, why use a word you hate to be called by white people, unless it is to start shit?

These ae just 2..
.

m.
Actually, that's just one. Maybe spend a little less time and energy being butthurt, and a little more getting educated and being coherent.

Also, she didn't say anything racist. She asked a perfectly valid, logical question. The fact that you don't like it is not evidence of racism . . . at least, not on HER part.

Aw shut up. These are two examples of racism. And if I wanted to take the time, I could find many more. .I don't use white ethnic slurs even when I hear whites using them among themselves. But whites like you think you can ask us questions justify why you can use the word because you have no respect for our wishes and that is racist.

LOL you have not shown ANY examples of me posting any form of racism.

 

[MizMolly]

Prejudice, bigotry, intolerance - call it what you like. Wrong is wrong.

The attitude that I have to agree with views such as yours in order to express an opinion may not be your definition of racism, but no matter what you'd like to call it, it is wrong.

You're a joke. I've never said you had to agree with me. You came in here talking about standing up to someone and got your ass handed to you. We do not have to accept your racist views, and we don't have to tolerate them. Refusing to tolerate racism is not bigotry. And blacks doing that are not extremists. There are no black extremists here.

I don't have a definition of racism, but the dictionary does.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b : a political or social system founded on racism

So you show me where in the hell this definition says that opposing racist ideology and beliefs such as what you have presented is racism.

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

This reply is a continuation of posts 1445 and 1448:

I have established in prior posts that the founders created a Constitution that was specific to building a constitutional Republic for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (their race) as evidenced by most of the early state constitutions.

America has fought many wars to secure the Liberties of foreign nations - and all without claiming a single acre of land for themselves. The policies of this country include giving BILLIONS of dollars to countries whose people wanting their own homeland. katsteve2012 wrote:

"Those are thinly veiled inferences that unless you study the past, you will not understand.

Keeping with thought, those "ideals" often translate to this "statement" in the minds of non whites:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

I would say that katsteve2012 was at least 80 percent right in that assessment. What pisses me off about the whites is that, it is like katsteve2012 says, "Those are thinly veiled inferences..." In my mind, whites don't have a clue as to their history nor their destiny. In many cases they DO cherry pick which laws and which tidbits they want to post on these boards in support of their ideology - which is almost as weak as that of the black extremists.

I realize that black people don't want to hear this, but whites DID build this nation. Pharaoh Khufu is credited with building the Great Pyramid in about 2551 B.C. So, when you Google him you will find that he is credited with that feat. Did he haul the rocks, sweat his ass off, and do the physical labor? No. Did he draw up the blueprints and supervise all the laborers? So, who were the people that DID the physical labor? Nobody cares and nobody bothers to record it for the most part.

Our system of laws; the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the many major decisions that took the idea and put them into an achievable form in the United States was the product of white people.

Their intention was to build a homeland for whites. While you think on that I'm going to be thinking about the rest of the answer to katsteve2012's response that every tax paying citizen has a "right" to be here. He'll be coming back. He cannot afford to miss the answer.

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

Nobody ambushes you. If is the other way around. Your mindthought seems to lean toward violence. What an angry little man, pity.

 

[Humorme]

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

This reply is a continuation of posts 1445 and 1448:

I have established in prior posts that the founders created a Constitution that was specific to building a constitutional Republic for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (their race) as evidenced by most of the early state constitutions.

America has fought many wars to secure the Liberties of foreign nations - and all without claiming a single acre of land for themselves. The policies of this country include giving BILLIONS of dollars to countries whose people wanting their own homeland. katsteve2012 wrote:

"Those are thinly veiled inferences that unless you study the past, you will not understand.

Keeping with thought, those "ideals" often translate to this "statement" in the minds of non whites:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

I would say that katsteve2012 was at least 80 percent right in that assessment. What pisses me off about the whites is that, it is like katsteve2012 says, "Those are thinly veiled inferences..." In my mind, whites don't have a clue as to their history nor their destiny. In many cases they DO cherry pick which laws and which tidbits they want to post on these boards in support of their ideology - which is almost as weak as that of the black extremists.

I realize that black people don't want to hear this, but whites DID build this nation. Pharaoh Khufu is credited with building the Great Pyramid in about 2551 B.C. So, when you Google him you will find that he is credited with that feat. Did he haul the rocks, sweat his ass off, and do the physical labor? No. Did he draw up the blueprints and supervise all the laborers? So, who were the people that DID the physical labor? Nobody cares and nobody bothers to record it for the most part.

Our system of laws; the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the many major decisions that took the idea and put them into an achievable form in the United States was the product of white people.

Their intention was to build a homeland for whites. While you think on that I'm going to be thinking about the rest of the answer to katsteve2012's response that every tax paying citizen has a "right" to be here. He'll be coming back. He cannot afford to miss the answer.

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

You're a spineless little man / woman without integrity, courage, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears to me that you are getting your ass kicked on a forum made up of a cross section of America and you want others to step into an all black forum because when the audience is diverse, you are being laughed at for the nutjob you've proven to be.

LOL!

While you LOL at your predicament ...

This is Part 5 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the first three parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 and 1477

I left off with making the point that Liberty is a God given - unalienable Right. It is a foundational principle upon which America was built.

"Our Consolation must be this, my dear, that Cities may be rebuilt, and a People reduced to Poverty, may acquire fresh Property: But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it." (Excerpt from a letter written by John Adams to Abigail Adams 7 July 1775)

There is a misconception by both the right and the left. BOTH sides believe that Liberty is tied to citizenship. It isn't. Citizenship, like voting is a privilege. Neither are unalienable Rights. We may call them rights (sic), but they lack some important attributes that are unlike unalienable Rights. Some of what we call "rights" are actually privileges. Unlike unalienable Rights, a government "right" is given to you by a government, not a Creator. It is revocable and an unalienable Right isn't, and the majority can vote your government into oblivion. Unalienable Rights are NOT subject to a popularity vote.

In the THIRD part of this ongoing ran (see Post #1460) catsteve2012 wrote:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

Here, catsteve2012 makes an inaccurate (and racist) statement. We do not see blacks stepping up to the plate and offering the Israelites reparations for their hard work while held in slavery. And now, the blacks claim they "built" America. Well, they may have put in the labor, but, unfortunately, that is NOT the meaning of the word the way we use it. See my previous posts for more info.

Today, we find ourselves in very precarious predicament. The Preamble of the Constitution states, unequivocally, WHO that document pertains to along with the first Naturalization laws saying that in order to become a citizen, one had to be a white person of good character. That is all fact. Then history records that the Dred Scott decision confirming that inspired the Republicans to pass the 14th Amendment... which was done illegally:

The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

14th Amendment is actually ILLEGAL as it was never RATIFIED!

http://www.constitution.org/14ll/no14th.htm

Legality of the 14th Amendment (Congressional Record)

When you have judges, lawyers, historians, civil libertarians, news outlets, and constitutionalists calling the 14th Amendment into question, the matter deserves to be discussed.

IF the 14th Amendment was not legally ratified, then the black people who are claiming citizenship are no more "citizens" than migrant worker who slid under the wall from Mexico. Now, my personal position is that even IF whites ever addressed the legality of the 14th Amendment and over-turned it, there is STILL the issue of whether or not all men have unalienable Rights. Today, the Trumpeteers make this asinine argument that the 14th Amendment did not include children who were born here, but their parents had no papers.

I can promise you today that argument will fail in the Courts. It has nothing to do with what side of this argument you perceive me to be on, but based upon the FACTS as I know them. WHEN that crazy argument fails them, the Trumpeteers are left with two choices: challenging the legality of the 14th Amendment or an internal and civil war. The alternative is that the liberals and non-whites will vote the conservatives and whites into oblivion.

IM2, stay tuned. Things are just beginning to warm up.

 

[katsteve2012]

Sure there is. You made an argument that your friend was justified in calling me a vile insult for no reason.


You lost that argument. You lose.


That this is an anonymous forum, doesn't change that. That it won't change your life, doesn't change that.


Nothing about my statement implies real significant harm to you.


Yet, you took a stupid stance, and you lost.



In our society, "racist" is a very serious insult. Careers, lives are ruined by being labeled as such, whether the accusation is true or not.


To deny that it is a vile insult, is absurd.


Only because assholes like to call people names. Nothing I have said in this thread justifies calling me such a name, and I have demonstrated that, by challenging your friend to back it up, and her utter failure to do so.




I am quick to call people on race baiting. It is a real problem in our society, and assholes who do it, need to be called on their shit.


My morals are fine.


ANd that's just an ass trying to minimizing my proper response to asses being asses.


Your lie is rejected.


I'm well aware that the world if full of lefty race baiting assholes, and I enjoy that on this site I get to call them on their bullshit.


My arguments stand on their own merits or don't. That you feel a need to attack me personally, shows that my arguments are such that you cannot refute them.






Nope. Nothing I have said supports that stupid claim.


Said the man that thinks that not answering a question is reason to call someone racist.

I get called racist. Nowhere have I even hinted that I am, because I am not.

Ive been called the same, but Ive never implied that any race is superior to another.

Do you support discrimination based on race? Do you think that blacks have a right to judge whites and decide if something they said is a micro agression?

I do not support discrimination of any kind, but no race of people has a monopoly on doing so.

People are judged here everyday, based on what they take personally. What I see as a "micro agression may differ from someone elses perception.

Speaking for myself, I refuse to give someone on an anonymous message board that kind of power over me.

Face to face in real time will get a much different reaction.

What are you talking about? What "power" over you?

Are you serious? How about the fact that some person that I don't know and could not care less about getting me upset enough for what they say to matter to me at all.

 

[beagle9]

You're a joke. I've never said you had to agree with me. You came in here talking about standing up to someone and got your ass handed to you. We do not have to accept your racist views, and we don't have to tolerate them. Refusing to tolerate racism is not bigotry. And blacks doing that are not extremists. There are no black extremists here.

I don't have a definition of racism, but the dictionary does.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b : a political or social system founded on racism

So you show me where in the hell this definition says that opposing racist ideology and beliefs such as what you have presented is racism.

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

This reply is a continuation of posts 1445 and 1448:

I have established in prior posts that the founders created a Constitution that was specific to building a constitutional Republic for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (their race) as evidenced by most of the early state constitutions.

America has fought many wars to secure the Liberties of foreign nations - and all without claiming a single acre of land for themselves. The policies of this country include giving BILLIONS of dollars to countries whose people wanting their own homeland. katsteve2012 wrote:

"Those are thinly veiled inferences that unless you study the past, you will not understand.

Keeping with thought, those "ideals" often translate to this "statement" in the minds of non whites:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

I would say that katsteve2012 was at least 80 percent right in that assessment. What pisses me off about the whites is that, it is like katsteve2012 says, "Those are thinly veiled inferences..." In my mind, whites don't have a clue as to their history nor their destiny. In many cases they DO cherry pick which laws and which tidbits they want to post on these boards in support of their ideology - which is almost as weak as that of the black extremists.

I realize that black people don't want to hear this, but whites DID build this nation. Pharaoh Khufu is credited with building the Great Pyramid in about 2551 B.C. So, when you Google him you will find that he is credited with that feat. Did he haul the rocks, sweat his ass off, and do the physical labor? No. Did he draw up the blueprints and supervise all the laborers? So, who were the people that DID the physical labor? Nobody cares and nobody bothers to record it for the most part.

Our system of laws; the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the many major decisions that took the idea and put them into an achievable form in the United States was the product of white people.

Their intention was to build a homeland for whites. While you think on that I'm going to be thinking about the rest of the answer to katsteve2012's response that every tax paying citizen has a "right" to be here. He'll be coming back. He cannot afford to miss the answer.

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

You're a spineless little man / woman without integrity, courage, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears to me that you are getting your ass kicked on a forum made up of a cross section of America and you want others to step into an all black forum because when the audience is diverse, you are being laughed at for the nutjob you've proven to be.

Who are you referring to, someone at the WHCD - (White House Correspondence Dinner)?? Now that was an eye opener. Wow.

Dispicable stuff.

Hollywood has lost it's flipping mind in producing the kind of entertainers that it has now loosed upon society in which it is producing these days. Hollyweird has been highjacked over the years, and gone are the days of decency found in the humble products produced by the Giants like Disney and others that were once in tune with the character of decency, Christianity, ethics, morals, in which were once connected to the heartbeat of America (not anymore).

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Dwelling on the past when the majority is moving on from it, does make the motives appear suspect when asking for money and such to be distributed to individuals that are not true to the causes of abolishing racism. Sadly they may actually take the money in order to fuel the hate and vengeful thinking of those who would use the past for evil intent and purposes, instead of truly using it as a way for all here to continue to heal by finally someday being unified, and not instead being divided.

There are tried and true methods for detecting patterns and practices employed by criminal enterprises, just as an example. Why does all that science get tossed out of the window when the subject is racism? IM2 rightfully pointed out previously that sans racism, everyone seems to understand the lingering residual negative impact of certain policies and procedures which were in place, yet when it comes to the topic of racism, everything that we know, that has previously been proven suddenly has no validity.

What I keep hearing is that the past has no impact on today yet somehow I don't think even if I were to provide evidence that this type of racism is still going on, although it might not be as in your face as in the past, it nonetheless still exists. And when wounds from the past are left unhealed and people are told to move on without ever achieving a sense of justice, this is what remains, particularly when someone like the following shows up and then gets mad because we won't let his nastiness and antagonism go unaddressed

Snouter said: ↑
What kindergarden did you drop out of you ridiculous, racist moron. IMO it is sad folks are brainwashed into thinking Blacks built anything. Embarrassing actually. Sorry Black folks! But look at your homeland. Grass huts, genital mutilation, eating dirt, etc. Reality can be mean, but truth will set you free!

You really should get your nose out of those National Geographic magazines.

I don't have time to cherry pick more than a few examples so here's a link to the skylines of about 50 African cities: African cities skylines

Luanda, Angola (in Africa)

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa

Casablanca, Morocco

Lagos, Nigeria

​

 

[Humorme]

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

This reply is a continuation of posts 1445 and 1448:

I have established in prior posts that the founders created a Constitution that was specific to building a constitutional Republic for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (their race) as evidenced by most of the early state constitutions.

America has fought many wars to secure the Liberties of foreign nations - and all without claiming a single acre of land for themselves. The policies of this country include giving BILLIONS of dollars to countries whose people wanting their own homeland. katsteve2012 wrote:

"Those are thinly veiled inferences that unless you study the past, you will not understand.

Keeping with thought, those "ideals" often translate to this "statement" in the minds of non whites:

"We built America, not you. You exist here because we allow you too. and based on its history, we have the right to determine if YOU should be here or not"

Of course, since for the most part, EVERY tax paying American citizen who was born here and resides here, has a right to be here..."

I would say that katsteve2012 was at least 80 percent right in that assessment. What pisses me off about the whites is that, it is like katsteve2012 says, "Those are thinly veiled inferences..." In my mind, whites don't have a clue as to their history nor their destiny. In many cases they DO cherry pick which laws and which tidbits they want to post on these boards in support of their ideology - which is almost as weak as that of the black extremists.

I realize that black people don't want to hear this, but whites DID build this nation. Pharaoh Khufu is credited with building the Great Pyramid in about 2551 B.C. So, when you Google him you will find that he is credited with that feat. Did he haul the rocks, sweat his ass off, and do the physical labor? No. Did he draw up the blueprints and supervise all the laborers? So, who were the people that DID the physical labor? Nobody cares and nobody bothers to record it for the most part.

Our system of laws; the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the many major decisions that took the idea and put them into an achievable form in the United States was the product of white people.

Their intention was to build a homeland for whites. While you think on that I'm going to be thinking about the rest of the answer to katsteve2012's response that every tax paying citizen has a "right" to be here. He'll be coming back. He cannot afford to miss the answer.

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

You're a spineless little man / woman without integrity, courage, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears to me that you are getting your ass kicked on a forum made up of a cross section of America and you want others to step into an all black forum because when the audience is diverse, you are being laughed at for the nutjob you've proven to be.

Who are you referring to, someone at the WHCD - (White House Correspondence Dinner)?? Now that was an eye opener. Wow.

Dispicable stuff.

Hollywood has lost it's flipping mind in producing the kind of entertainers that it has now loosed upon society in which it is producing these days. Hollyweird has been highjacked over the years, and gone are the days of decency found in the humble products produced by the Giants like Disney and others that were once in tune with the character of decency, Christianity, ethics, morals, in which were once connected to the heartbeat of America (not anymore).

My comments were directed at IM2. He wants us to believe he is the ultimate authority on all things race related, but has to get into whizzing contests and call people names because, obviously, he has no point to make. I'm making my point about this in a series of rants and before I'm finished, many links will be offered in support of the position. Maybe someone can find useful info from it while IM2 presents it to all liberal forums so they investigate me for heresy.

 

[beagle9]

Dwelling on the past when the majority is moving on from it, does make the motives appear suspect when asking for money and such to be distributed to individuals that are not true to the causes of abolishing racism. Sadly they may actually take the money in order to fuel the hate and vengeful thinking of those who would use the past for evil intent and purposes, instead of truly using it as a way for all here to continue to heal by finally someday being unified, and not instead being divided.

There are tried and true methods for detecting patterns and practices employed by criminal enterprises, just as an example. Why does all that science get tossed out of the window when the subject is racism? IM2 rightfully pointed out previously that sans racism, everyone seems to understand the lingering residual negative impact of certain policies and procedures which were in place, yet when it comes to the topic of racism, everything that we know, that has previously been proven suddenly has no validity.

What I keep hearing is that the past has no impact on today yet somehow I don't think even if I were to provide evidence that this type of racism is still going on, although it might not be as in your face as in the past, it nonetheless still exists. And when wounds from the past are left unhealed and people are told to move on without ever achieving a sense of justice, this is what remains, particularly when someone like the following shows up and then gets mad because we won't let his nastiness and antagonism go unaddressed

Snouter said: ↑
What kindergarden did you drop out of you ridiculous, racist moron. IMO it is sad folks are brainwashed into thinking Blacks built anything. Embarrassing actually. Sorry Black folks! But look at your homeland. Grass huts, genital mutilation, eating dirt, etc. Reality can be mean, but truth will set you free!

You really should get your nose out of those National Geographic magazines.

I don't have time to cherry pick more than a few examples so here's a link to the skylines of about 50 African cities: African cities skylines

Luanda, Angola (in Africa)

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa

Casablanca, Morocco

Lagos, Nigeria

​

Can't figure this post out.. I see my name, but no comment of mine.. lol

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Please note the highlighted text below

Tell your story in a clear, rational way, Ms. Mastroianni of the E.E.O.C. advised. Keep timely notes about troublesome behaviors and of your efforts to communicate with management. The largest percentage of charges the agency brings involve retaliation, when a worker puts management on notice and is fired or otherwise punished as a result. That said, your goal isn’t to provoke the company. “You want this resolved,” Ms. Mastroianni said.

None of this will be easy, but doing nothing isn’t a great option either. “Sometimes the worst thing you can do is say, ‘Well, if I just keep my mouth shut, maybe they’ll leave me alone,’” Mr. Heller said. “If you stay silent, it lets the company write the narrative.” Taking action, he said, is the only way things are likely to change.​

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Can't figure this post out.. I see my name, but no comment of mine.. lol

The quotes are reversed. I used to have an Edit button but I don't know what has happened to it.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Now you are characterizing my not answering a question, (and you assuming the answer), to participating in a Klan rally.

That is insane of you.

INSANE.

So I take it you don't understand the concept of an analogy? But what's even more interesting is you took exception to the Klan rally but not the one regarding child molestation. Most people would consider falsely being accused of being a child molester to be the "vile" accusation of the two

As far as the Klan rally though, take away the sign and the interview with the reporter and let's say you're just there. Maybe you're there to protest the Klan, maybe you're there as a witness, who would know if you didn't explain your presence but surely you could understand why someone may mistake for you being there in support of the Klan simply because of your presence at the rally, no?

Such behavior casts an interesting light on your posts in this thread, assuming that various whites are committing discrimination, or claiming that you fight for the rights of whites.

TO be clear, it reveals that your ability to rationally and fairly judge whites, is zero.

My problem is not with white people at all, just with you specifically and people like you. And it's not because you didn't answer my question, it's because I gave you the benefit of doubt when I asked your opinion the first time, gave you the benefit of doubt again when I tried to discuss the fact that this was the first time that particular test was used and that no one was allowed to see the test results, and then gave you the benefit of doubt a third time when I asked the question AGAIN if you thought that the only reason that the black candidates scored poorly on test was due to the alleged racial superiority of the white candidates and you still did answer nor dispute my inquiry. It was only at that time that I then added your lack of response to the stack of other comments you have made which indicates to me that you have a supremacist attitude. It was not one single event, comment or failure to answer a question, it's been your fairly consistent stance on this topic with no interest in viewing it from any other angle than the one you've deemed correct.

And just in case you think it escaped my notice I did note how when I posted 3 links to current racial discrimination cases in Connecticut which all has all of the same anti-discrimination laws as well as federal laws as the New Haven Fire Fighter case you dismissed them as "just being a few cases", yet you cling to that 1 New Haven Firefighter SCOTUS cases like it's a life raft. No matter have many racial discrimination cases I present you with, whether it's 50 EEOC cases or 3 Connecticut cases, you ALWAYS come back with only the same 1 New Haven Firefighter case. You are definitely applying a double standard here.

And since you brought it up yeah let's talk about light, specifically false light which is a form of defamation. There are certain things that if you say them about another person are considered defamation per se meaning that the person claiming defamation doesn't have to prove damages or how they were harmed, only that the person made the statements and that they were untrue. Damages are then presumed. I've noticed that you use rather nasty speech when attacking specific individuals not just on this thread but elsewhere on US Message Board. I've also noticed how you can engage in very civil conversation when you want, it would appear.

Nothing I state to you will make you believe that I am qualified or trained or educated to do what it is I do, however casting aspersions on my character and calling my professional reputation into question ("claiming you fight for the rights of white") is where you're going astray. Your disbelief in my abilities or integrity plays no part in the reality of who I assist, why I assist those that I do or anything else surrounding my life.

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would have taken the hint when I've mentioned that I'm a member of the ACLU. Does the ACLU support the rights of white people?

AND one has to wonder, how wide spread your viewpoint is, among minorities or liberals.

If more people shared my viewpoint we'd all be better off, in my humble opinion, because then there would be a lot less talking and a whole lot more action being taken.

 

[katsteve2012]

Now you are characterizing my not answering a question, (and you assuming the answer), to participating in a Klan rally.

That is insane of you.

INSANE.

So I take it you don't understand the concept of an analogy? But what's even more interesting is you took exception to the Klan rally but not the one regarding child molestation. Most people would consider falsely being accused of being a child molester to be the "vile" accusation of the two

As far as the Klan rally though, take away the sign and the interview with the reporter and let's say you're just there. Maybe you're there to protest the Klan, maybe you're there as a witness, who would know if you didn't explain your presence but surely you could understand why someone may mistake for you being there in support of the Klan simply because of your presence at the rally, no?

Such behavior casts an interesting light on your posts in this thread, assuming that various whites are committing discrimination, or claiming that you fight for the rights of whites.

TO be clear, it reveals that your ability to rationally and fairly judge whites, is zero.

My problem is not with white people at all, just with you specifically and people like you. And it's not because you didn't answer my question, it's because I gave you the benefit of doubt when I asked your opinion the first time, gave you the benefit of doubt again when I tried to discuss the fact that this was the first time that particular test was used and that no one was allowed to see the test results, and then gave you the benefit of doubt a third time when I asked the question AGAIN if you thought that the only reason that the black candidates scored poorly on test was due to the alleged racial superiority of the white candidates and you still did answer nor dispute my inquiry. It was only at that time that I then added your lack of response to the stack of other comments you have made which indicates to me that you have a supremacist attitude. It was not one single event, comment or failure to answer a question, it's been your fairly consistent stance on this topic with no interest in viewing it from any other angle than the one you've deemed correct.

And just in case you think it escaped my notice I did note how when I posted 3 links to current racial discrimination cases in Connecticut which all has all of the same anti-discrimination laws as well as federal laws as the New Haven Fire Fighter case you dismissed them as "just being a few cases", yet you cling to that 1 New Haven Firefighter SCOTUS cases like it's a life raft. No matter have many racial discrimination cases I present you with, whether it's 50 EEOC cases or 3 Connecticut cases, you ALWAYS come back with only the same 1 New Haven Firefighter case. You are definitely applying a double standard here.

And since you brought it up yeah let's talk about light, specifically false light which is a form of defamation. There are certain things that if you say them about another person are considered defamation per se meaning that the person claiming defamation doesn't have to prove damages or how they were harmed, only that the person made the statements and that they were untrue. Damages are then presumed. I've noticed that you use rather nasty speech when attacking specific individuals not just on this thread but elsewhere on US Message Board. I've also noticed how you can engage in very civil conversation when you want, it would appear.

Nothing I state to you will make you believe that I am qualified or trained or educated to do what it is I do, however casting aspersions on my character and calling my professional reputation into question ("claiming you fight for the rights of white") is where you're going astray. Your disbelief in my abilities or integrity plays no part in the reality of who I assist, why I assist those that I do or anything else surrounding my life.

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would have taken the hint when I've mentioned that I'm a member of the ACLU. Does the ACLU support the rights of white people?

AND one has to wonder, how wide spread your viewpoint is, among minorities or liberals.

If more people shared my viewpoint we'd all be better off, in my humble opinion, because then there would be a lot less talking and a whole lot more action being taken.

Absolutely true. Every single word. Now, sit back and wait for the predictable histrionics .

 

[IM2]

I hate to tell you but Whites did not build this nation. This system was the product of whites excluding everyone else from the decision making process. You made claims about Americans fighting wars without claiming a single bit of land for themselves. Are you insane?

If whites wanted a homeland for whites they should have stayed where it was all white. Because this country was not going to be all white when at last 500 non white nations were already here. Sane whites understand their history. That is why you post his crap anonymously in a race and racism section in a small internet forum because you know good and well that you are posting a bunch of extremist crap. You don't dare take this any non white forum. That's why I say you are a coward. I'm here with a few blacks in a mostly white forum opposing the racism of the likes of you with fact. You post your drivel only here where whites who are as dumb and racist as you will cosign and make you feel good about yourself.

FWIW:

You called me a coward. The buck stops there. Okay. The reality is since I was a young kid, I've been willing to meet anyone, at any time. Going on an all black forum is not cowardice. It would be the same as calling you chickenshit for not taking your racist tripe to a Klan rally and showing up alone.

When I was growing up, there are some things you did not say to another man. It usually meant you were shopping for a fight. Today, people like you can say idiotic things and I accept personal challenges, then I'm accused of threatening people. That is why, man to man, you spew shit you don't have the balls to say to people's face. IF you meant to call me out, you'd have done so in a PM. So, if you see a coward, it's the one that looks at you in the mirror every day.

For years I sponsored public meetings twice a month. I've been on tv, radio, and in newspapers. The last guy who made the same claims as you on this board is a National Socialist. He was so gutless that he shoots through my kitchen window. So, Klan with a tan, blow smoke all you like, but YOU are the one who wants me to walk into an ambush because you've proven that YOU can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds are stacked against me 10 to 1. You are spineless and you don't have even a portion of the truth.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

You're a spineless little man / woman without integrity, courage, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears to me that you are getting your ass kicked on a forum made up of a cross section of America and you want others to step into an all black forum because when the audience is diverse, you are being laughed at for the nutjob you've proven to be.

Who are you referring to, someone at the WHCD - (White House Correspondence Dinner)?? Now that was an eye opener. Wow.

Dispicable stuff.

Hollywood has lost it's flipping mind in producing the kind of entertainers that it has now loosed upon society in which it is producing these days. Hollyweird has been highjacked over the years, and gone are the days of decency found in the humble products produced by the Giants like Disney and others that were once in tune with the character of decency, Christianity, ethics, morals, in which were once connected to the heartbeat of America (not anymore).

My comments were directed at IM2. He wants us to believe he is the ultimate authority on all things race related, but has to get into whizzing contests and call people names because, obviously, he has no point to make. I'm making my point about this in a series of rants and before I'm finished, many links will be offered in support of the position. Maybe someone can find useful info from it while IM2 presents it to all liberal forums so they investigate me for heresy.

I don't believe I am the ultimate authority on race, I do believe I am more of an authority than you. You keep saying I have no point make but when we look at our discussion I've destroyed your premise every time. All you are proving is there are whites in 2018 who think the same way whites did 200 years ag0.

 

[IM2]

Feigned affront
vs.
The following - the first image should be very familiar to some of you - what were you all saying about "that's the past"? I'd swear I've heard some of these "slogans" as recently as the last 30 days)

Hate is hate, and henious crimes are henious crimes no matter what color you are. Now go and get all the tragic cases of hate crimes and murder over the years be it white or black victims involved.

Those you noted above are definitely tragic and sad for sure, and most in America find such history and current events deplorable.

Dwelling on the past when the majority is moving on from it, does make the motives appear suspect when asking for money and such to be distributed to individuals that are not true to the causes of abolishing racism. Sadly they may actually take the money in order to fuel the hate and vengeful thinking of those who would use the past for evil intent and purposes, instead of truly using it as a way for all here to continue to heal by finally someday being unified, and not instead being divided.

This section of USMB is a high definition exhibition of how the majority hasn't moved past a damn thing. And if you want us to stop asking for reparations then stop paying Native Americans reparations for things that happened in the past.

Or drop that argument.

1) This is an exhibition of how YOU haven't moved past a damned thing, and the majority has moved past caring about your whining and sniveling.

2) We don't pay reparations to Native Americans, Chuckles. You're talking out of your ass. Again.

Actually you do pay reparations to Native Americans.

I am not going to move past something that continues. .

If I were white, female and thought like you, I'd be shutting my mouth. Get the hint and take the suggestion because what you support takes you back to the kitchen while popping out babies.

 

[katsteve2012]

I believe that there is such a thing as residual effect on the future because of the past.

No, at some point the babying of any group of people by the generation's that have way since moved on must soon end. It's really embarrassing that a group of people think that they should be treated in a special way at this point in time in our history. At some point the choices people make be it within their culture, finances, lifestyles etc have got to be made freely by those people themselves, and the consequences of their actions must be accounted for in connection to the choices they (the makers of such choices), have since made for themselves and not be blamed on anyone else. The blame game must end.

The governments handling of the history between the blacks and the whites has been flawed big time, and corrections stand to be made in it all.

Depending on how one interprets history

The "shit" that you talk, is your one sided view of what truth is, which makes it "shit". And most of the "shit" that you talk is far from truth.

Case in point:
Why would you insist that I'm a liberal? You have no idea how I vote or who's political views I agree or disagree with. So if you label people, you may get labled as well. Thats how it is here.

There is no argument to lose here. This is a RACE RELATIONS forum, and at some point, everyone who posts here gets called a racist.....by a complete stranger.


If you cannot understand the simplicity of that, then you really are a bigger tool than you appear to be.

Nothing insulting about, it's strictly an opinion and observation of how someone perceives how you reason....or fail to.

The fact that this is the RACE RELATIONS forum, does not justify calling some one a racist.



Calling someone a racist, should be reserved for people who state racist beliefs.




Your friend, in her attempt to support her calling me a racist, cited that I did not answer a question, buried in a large post of hers.


That was her supporting evidence for calling me a vile name.


That is bullshit. And that is what you are defending.


You lose.

There is nothing for me to "lose" here. It's an anonymous forum, frequented by a majority of people like YOU that I am elated to NOT KNOW personally.

Sure there is. You made an argument that your friend was justified in calling me a vile insult for no reason.


You lost that argument. You lose.


That this is an anonymous forum, doesn't change that. That it won't change your life, doesn't change that.


Nothing about my statement implies real significant harm to you.


Yet, you took a stupid stance, and you lost.

In a few cases, there are some here who make sense.

Your warped perception of what is "vile" versus what is not, in a setting like this is childish and resembles the logic of a 10 year old, who failed the 5th grade.

In our society, "racist" is a very serious insult. Careers, lives are ruined by being labeled as such, whether the accusation is true or not.


To deny that it is a vile insult, is absurd.

It is an indisputable fact that in a forum called "Race Relations" even the most benign and innocuous individual will at some point in time be referred to as a "Racist".

Only because assholes like to call people names. Nothing I have said in this thread justifies calling me such a name, and I have demonstrated that, by challenging your friend to back it up, and her utter failure to do so.

You are quick on the trigger to accuse others of "race baiting" and in turn have no moral compass regarding some of what you have stated.

I am quick to call people on race baiting. It is a real problem in our society, and assholes who do it, need to be called on their shit.


My morals are fine.

And when you do get called out, you throw a whiny bitch tantrum.

ANd that's just an ass trying to minimizing my proper response to asses being asses.


Your lie is rejected.

If you can't understand that, and accept that by visiting this forum you WILL be subject to what everyone else here experiences, you're a damn fool.

I'm well aware that the world if full of lefty race baiting assholes, and I enjoy that on this site I get to call them on their bullshit.

You are not unique or above anyone else who posts here.

My arguments stand on their own merits or don't. That you feel a need to attack me personally, shows that my arguments are such that you cannot refute them.

But you appear to believe that you are.

Nope. Nothing I have said supports that stupid claim.

That makes you delusional.

Said the man that thinks that not answering a question is reason to call someone racist.

You are a ridiculous drama queen. If your idea of a "vile insult" is being called a racist on a "race relations" message board you are a fool just as you were accurately called.

It is a vile insult in our culture, and your denial of this just reveals you to be a liar.

There are no winners or losers here, and if in your little mind, there are, then that makes you look even more foolish, and hypersensitive than you actually are, if thats possible.

Says the man arguing that "racist" is not a vile insult in our culture. AND that not answering a question is reason enough to be called one.

You got called a racist, and to a number of people here, you appear to be.

Which is interesting, because NOTHING I say actually fits the actual definition of racist.

When people call me a racist, they are lying and race baiting.

Name one person who post here who has not been called a racist, quite a few have been by none other than you.

1. That a lot of people throw that word around stupidly and wrongly and vilely, does not support your argument. It just shows that there are a lot of assholes in the world.


2. I actually call people racist, when they are saying racist things or supporting racist policies, like discriminating against people based on race.

That's when it is i reasonable to call someone a racist. Not when they do not answer a question and so you assume their answer and then judge them based on your assumption.

And if you continue to post here, you will be called one again.

No doubt. And I will call you race baiters on your behavior, when you do it.

Get over it. You aren't special.

Again with the trying to make it about me.


My arguments stand or don't stand, based on their own merits. I have never claimed any special Authority, where you should just bow to my decree.


And my arguments are sound. Which is WHY you lefties always drop the discussion about the topic, and start with personal attacks.


Because you are wrong, and you are too dishonest to admit it.

Your arguments are "sound"? That is humorous, and as a rule, I never reject an opportunity for a good laugh, and you seldom fall short of providing one.

In my life experience, genuine racists will flat out deny that racism actually exists, only to cry “REVERSE RACISM !” or "ANTI WHITE DISCRIMINATION!" in the next breath.

To people like you, who are believed to be racists, the real meaning of "reverse racism" or 'anti white discrimination" is having to live in a post 1965 world where you are expected to treat non white people fairly and equally.

To the point that it just feels uncomfortable to you.

Being called a RACIST in YOUR case, is not an insult, it's a DIAGNOSIS.

That's the way you are viewed by a number of people here, and no matter what level of objection that you express towards that perception, it is not likely to change,

Lastly, speaking for myself, I believe that you are more ignorant and misinformed than you are racist.