Are today's Southern Conservatives any different than Southern Conservatives from the Civil War?

[Pheonixops]

They've only changed political parties.

There you go again. The democrats remained democrats. The republicans have never been for slavery. That is controlling people against their will, which is big government. Big government is Democrat policy. You democrats are still the same, only your methods have changed. Blacks are still on the Democrat plantation.

lol


Are today's Southern Conservatives any different than Southern Conservatives from the Civil War?




The Conservative Fantasy History of Civil Rights

The mainstream, and correct, history of the politics of civil rights is as follows. Southern white supremacy operated out of the Democratic Party beginning in the nineteenth century, but the party began attracting northern liberals, including African-Americans, into an ideologically cumbersome coalition. Over time the liberals prevailed, forcing the Democratic Party to support civil rights, and driving conservative (and especially southern) whites out, where they realigned with the Republican Party.

The Conservative Fantasy History of Civil Rights -- NYMag


It is true that most Republicans in 1964 held vastly more liberal positions on civil rights than Goldwater. This strikes [Kevin Williamson, the author of the National Review piece] as proof of the idiosyncratic and isolated quality of Goldwater's civil rights stance. What it actually shows is that conservatives had not yet gained control of the Republican Party.

But conservative Republicans — those represented politically by Goldwater, and intellectually by William F. Buckley and National Review — did oppose the civil rights movement. Buckley wrote frankly about his endorsement of white supremacy: "the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not predominate numerically." More often conservatives argued on grounds of states' rights, or freedom of property, or that civil rights leaders were annoying hypocrites, or that they had undermined respect for the law.

Conservatives Trying to Rewrite the History of Civil Rights Mother Jones








The Republican Party that championed civil rights in the mid-to-late 19th century all but abandoned the cause in the beginning of the 20th, as white America turned away from blacks, and left them to suffer at the hands of segregationists and lynch mobs. Key GOP politicians (like President Taft) embarked on a campaign to wash the Republican Party of its connection to blacks, in order to expand its constituency in the white South.



Conservatives Try to Rewrite Civil Rights History Again

Bravo!

 

[rdean]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

Hilarious. The first time I heard the name Sheldon Abelson, I had to go look up who he was. I had no idea he was one of my "leaders".

 

[Steinlight]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

Hilarious. The first time I heard the name Sheldon Abelson, I had to go look up who he was. I had no idea he was one of my "leaders".

Your "leader", what are you babbling on about? I am not American and I know who this GOP mega donor is. God you are so fucking stupid.

 

[hadit]

To the OP. Absolutely they are different. No one who ate turnips during the Civil War is alive today. Keep that in mind.

 

[Political Junky]

I would say the liberal elite that control both parties in America are most similar to the slaveholders of the 19th century. They support unrestricted third world immigration for cheap labor(for the republican donors) and votes(for the democrats). Both undermine the white working class(blacks even more so) with this current immigration policy.

I'm curious. Since the Democratic Party is made up of the whites Republicans don't want, like gays, atheists, college professors, scientists, liberals and so on and the rest of the party are black, Hispanic, Asian and so on, who exactly are the "Liberal Elite"? Since we know there are also conservatives in the Democratic Party, called Blue Dogs, would they follow the "Liberal Elite"? Their voting pattern proves they tend to vote conservative. In fact, liberals seem to be a narrow part of the party.

Unlike Republicans. 90% white. Remember, Republicans recently voted the single Jew they had in congress and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage" making them 100% Christian. So who are these "Liberal Elite" and what holds them together as a "group"?

A member of the "liberal elite" that controls the GOP is jewish casino mogul and zionist Sheldon Adelson. He supports mass immigration and increased support for Israel, among other things . Another "liberal elite" who has been known to fund pro-immigration/pro-amnesty republicans is Mark Zuckerberg. Just two off the top of my head. I can list more.

Yes, The regular white people support the GOP, but the GOP never represents their interests, supporting immigration policies that undermine their base, and always trying to "diversify" as though, white interests are illegitmate.

White Americans have no political representation and dire need of it or they will become a minority in their own country.

Hilarious. The first time I heard the name Sheldon Abelson, I had to go look up who he was. I had no idea he was one of my "leaders".

A good looking guy, isn't he?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

 

[bluedog1]

Yes we had big government during the 1860s . lol

 

[bripat9643]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The only problem is the North freed the slaves and the South fought a war against this nation trying to stop such a thing. The history doesn't change just because you lie.

 

[007]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

Oh my, rderpy... do you think the modern day progressives have changed?

By the way, is this you?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

David Duke was one of those Far Right Democrats who is now a Far Right Republican.

David Duke

David Duke was a democrat when he was in the KKK.

 

[007]

Yeah those democrats... aren't they a great bunch?

 

[bripat9643]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The only problem is the North freed the slaves and the South fought a war against this nation trying to stop such a thing. The history doesn't change just because you lie.

The south merely defended itself from Northern aggression. Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to free the slaves. He did it to impose the Morrill tariff.

History doesn't change because you lie.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yeah those democrats... aren't they a great bunch?

Looks like a Libertarian to me. Anyone who believes Ayn Rand has no fucking clue how to shit in the woods, let alone anything else.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Have today's southern conservatives changed from since the days they were slaveholders?

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The only problem is the North freed the slaves and the South fought a war against this nation trying to stop such a thing. The history doesn't change just because you lie.

The south merely defended itself from Northern aggression. Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to free the slaves. He did it to impose the Morrill tariff.

History doesn't change because you lie.

It's simply amazing the nonsense that you believe my little infant.

 

[bripat9643]

You meant Democrats, the Party of KKK, Jim Crow, Segregation, Tuskegee, Grand Kleagle Senate Majority Leader.

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The only problem is the North freed the slaves and the South fought a war against this nation trying to stop such a thing. The history doesn't change just because you lie.

The south merely defended itself from Northern aggression. Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to free the slaves. He did it to impose the Morrill tariff.

History doesn't change because you lie.

It's simply amazing the nonsense that you believe my little infant.

It must be wonderful to be a liberal because you are constantly amazed when someone explains the simple truth to you.

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah those democrats... aren't they a great bunch?

Looks like a Libertarian to me. Anyone who believes Ayn Rand has no fucking clue how to shit in the woods, let alone anything else.

This photo was taken at an OWS rally, moron.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yeah those democrats... aren't they a great bunch?

Looks like a Libertarian to me. Anyone who believes Ayn Rand has no fucking clue how to shit in the woods, let alone anything else.

This photo was taken at an OWS rally, moron.

Yep, Libertarian.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

All from the South. Lincoln was a Repub, tell us of your profound respect for him and his actions to save the Union, including going to war against the South?

Hmmmm, no. Robert Byrd was from West Virginia, a union state. The KKK was quite popular in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The only problem is the North freed the slaves and the South fought a war against this nation trying to stop such a thing. The history doesn't change just because you lie.

The south merely defended itself from Northern aggression. Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to free the slaves. He did it to impose the Morrill tariff.

History doesn't change because you lie.

It's simply amazing the nonsense that you believe my little infant.

It must be wonderful to be a liberal because you are constantly amazed when someone explains the simple truth to you.

You've never met the truth my little infant. Mommy either didn't, or couldn't, get that across to you.