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aka he is with a company that is not small and offers higher co pays by the employer...............Small companies have no bargaining power and their rates are through the roof.................Sorry, no. The lie is all of these people who claim they are in perfect health, are paying these ridiculous premiums, and have these outrageous deductibles.What a lieMine is 304 per month with an 8000 deductable for just me. The insurance is crap, and like someone else said, I just make a donation. The only people laughing right now must have insurance through their work. Evil crap shoved down our throats.
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Why, if you don't smoke, and have not been treated for any illness in the last 5 years, you may be eligible for a policy for as little as $75 per month!
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One of those three things cannot be true. I don't have perfect health, and my rates are reasonable, and my deductibles manageable. So, either I'm the luckiest guy in America, or these other claims are bullshit.
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Or they're simply too dumb to do better for themselves.
Not everyone can work at a fortune 500 company in this country, or work only for those companies that offer better deals...........that is just a statement of I got mine and screw you..................
Well, they evidently calculated that (a) they were gonna lose the vote and (b) that pulling the vote would look less terrible than losing it.Is there some kind of rule that a bill can only be voted on once? Ryan pulled it before it could even be voted on. Why?Standard political knee-jerking. I'd guess that once things calm down a bit the party will come out with some kind of Plan B.Why is everyone saying this new bill is "dead in the water" now for "the foreseeable future?" Why? Is it because of the budget they need to pass? I don't understand why so many people are saying we're now stuck with Obamacare until it sinks.
Seems to me that another issue is whether the Dems will be willing to play ball if (big "if" there) Trump and the GOP wise up and reach across the aisle. Right now it doesn't look like they would.
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Despite their victories in 2016, and despite the amazing amount of power they hold nationally, the fact remains the GOP is still a terribly divided party.I think Republucans realize the nature of the beastWhy is everyone saying this new bill is "dead in the water" now for "the foreseeable future?" Why? Is it because of the budget they need to pass? I don't understand why so many people are saying we're now stuck with Obamacare until it sinks.I'm guessing the public is giving Trump and the GOP the raspberry over this debacle, but there's no way of knowing how long that will last.It's both, Flash. I'm not letting our elected Democrats off the hook for this. I didn't like Trumpcare as a plan, but it would at least have eased up the situation for small businesses and people caught working part-time because of the mandate to cover full-time employees. That would have actually been very beneficial in our area.That's two (2) deflections now.
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The deflection is you Moon Bats trying to blame the failure of Obamacare on the Republicans for not fixing yesterday what the Democrats broke in 2009.
That bill was not voted on yesterday because 193 filthy ass Democrats and and a handful of Freedom Caucus Republicans did not want the RINO plan, which would have fixed some of the things that may prevent the stupid program from failing later this year or next.
This is a failure of the Democrats, not the Republicans.
The question to me is whether the GOP decides to (try to) do this themselves or give in some and work with the Dems to "fix" the ACA.
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They are incapable of EVER agreeing on healthcare
What is their to understand when you see your rates go up $500 a month after passage of Obamacare..............Which happened............aka he is with a company that is not small and offers higher co pays by the employer...............Small companies have no bargaining power and their rates are through the roof.................Sorry, no. The lie is all of these people who claim they are in perfect health, are paying these ridiculous premiums, and have these outrageous deductibles.What a lieWell, this is your lucky day! Here is where you can get competitive health insurance quotes!
Individual Health Insurance Quotes – View Plans and Apply Online at IndividualHealthQuotes.com
Why, if you don't smoke, and have not been treated for any illness in the last 5 years, you may be eligible for a policy for as little as $75 per month!
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One of those three things cannot be true. I don't have perfect health, and my rates are reasonable, and my deductibles manageable. So, either I'm the luckiest guy in America, or these other claims are bullshit.
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Or they're simply too dumb to do better for themselves.
Not everyone can work at a fortune 500 company in this country, or work only for those companies that offer better deals...........that is just a statement of I got mine and screw you..................
It's just an observation. The ones who bitch the most also seem to be the ones who understand it the least.
What absolute bullshit. Rates have always increased annually for insurance. However, the annual rater increasesw have been demonstrably lower with ACA than they were without it:That's a load of BS. The rates went up $500 a month for family after the ACA was passed you freaking tool. Thanks Dems for WHAT. Fcking me over.......Don't think so.My insurance went through the roof...............got my wife on insurance for $480 a month............$6250 deductible on exchange.........family coverage at work $1500 a month..................LOLFunny. I only pay $125/mo with a $1500 deductible. I am on numerous meds because of a heart condition, and have a $0 (yes, that's zero) co-pay for my meds. That is thanks to a policy through the Affordable Care Act. I'm rather glad Trumpcare failed.The question now is whether the GOP will stay stalled on this for the next 2 years or whether they will instead forget about it and move on, to tax reform ??
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I unfortunately have Obamacare.
I pay $413 a month, just for myself, with a $7000 deductible. I don't have insurance, I make a donation!
This needs fixed!!
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Now I pay the fine and have no insurance..............paying your subsidy bud............through the fines.
I understand, Eagle. What you are saying is that, according to insurance industry standards, you are uninsurable, and since ACA doesn't give it to you for free, it is unfair to you.
Do you remember Closing Gitmo? LOLDonald did not write a bill. He wanted this to fail and he knew it would. Now he is free to move on to taxes.Should fully collapse right around midterms. Dems will never win again!! Time to move on to taxes.
Yup, Don failed. Nieto's check show up the The Wall yet?
Sorry, some of us remember Don's campaign promises.
LOLWhat absolute bullshit. Rates have always increased annually for insurance. However, the annual rater increasesw have been demonstrably lower with ACA than they were without it:That's a load of BS. The rates went up $500 a month for family after the ACA was passed you freaking tool. Thanks Dems for WHAT. Fcking me over.......Don't think so.My insurance went through the roof...............got my wife on insurance for $480 a month............$6250 deductible on exchange.........family coverage at work $1500 a month..................LOLFunny. I only pay $125/mo with a $1500 deductible. I am on numerous meds because of a heart condition, and have a $0 (yes, that's zero) co-pay for my meds. That is thanks to a policy through the Affordable Care Act. I'm rather glad Trumpcare failed.No.
I unfortunately have Obamacare.
I pay $413 a month, just for myself, with a $7000 deductible. I don't have insurance, I make a donation!
This needs fixed!!
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Now I pay the fine and have no insurance..............paying your subsidy bud............through the fines.
I understand, Eagle. What you are saying is that, according to insurance industry standards, you are uninsurable, and since ACA doesn't give it to you for free, it is unfair to you.
So, if you "suffered" a $500 rate increase, last year, with the ACA, it is a guarantee that, without it, that increase would have been higher.
I don't see the promised $2500 in savings.Obamacare has added to the expense.Yes, unless the republicans was going to do the right thing and get government out of healthcare. They did the right thing!
I'm sure they will insist upon the american health"care" system trailing the rest of the advanced post industrial world's healthcare systems for much more cost to society.
Yes of course.
Sure. Except the actual, demonstrable data says that your anecdotal "this happened to me" story is a lie. So, since my anecdotal "this happened to me" story actually aligns with the demonstrable, actual data, you'll forgive me if I believe the actual, demonstrable data.LOLWhat absolute bullshit. Rates have always increased annually for insurance. However, the annual rater increasesw have been demonstrably lower with ACA than they were without it:That's a load of BS. The rates went up $500 a month for family after the ACA was passed you freaking tool. Thanks Dems for WHAT. Fcking me over.......Don't think so.My insurance went through the roof...............got my wife on insurance for $480 a month............$6250 deductible on exchange.........family coverage at work $1500 a month..................LOLFunny. I only pay $125/mo with a $1500 deductible. I am on numerous meds because of a heart condition, and have a $0 (yes, that's zero) co-pay for my meds. That is thanks to a policy through the Affordable Care Act. I'm rather glad Trumpcare failed.
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Now I pay the fine and have no insurance..............paying your subsidy bud............through the fines.
I understand, Eagle. What you are saying is that, according to insurance industry standards, you are uninsurable, and since ACA doesn't give it to you for free, it is unfair to you.
So, if you "suffered" a $500 rate increase, last year, with the ACA, it is a guarantee that, without it, that increase would have been higher.
It never raised that damned much in a single year before.............your statement is horse hockey
Obamacare pledged to lower our rates........Utter BS as they climb even higher............
It was an entitlement law and nothing more.
Whatever.I got the cost via my employer not you. So you are not revelent in that regards.Sure. Except the actual, demonstrable data says that your anecdotal "this happened to me" story is a lie. So, since my anecdotal "this happened to me" story actually aligns with the demonstrable, actual data, you'll forgive me if I believe the actual, demonstrable data.LOLWhat absolute bullshit. Rates have always increased annually for insurance. However, the annual rater increasesw have been demonstrably lower with ACA than they were without it:That's a load of BS. The rates went up $500 a month for family after the ACA was passed you freaking tool. Thanks Dems for WHAT. Fcking me over.......Don't think so.My insurance went through the roof...............got my wife on insurance for $480 a month............$6250 deductible on exchange.........family coverage at work $1500 a month..................LOL
Now I pay the fine and have no insurance..............paying your subsidy bud............through the fines.
I understand, Eagle. What you are saying is that, according to insurance industry standards, you are uninsurable, and since ACA doesn't give it to you for free, it is unfair to you.
So, if you "suffered" a $500 rate increase, last year, with the ACA, it is a guarantee that, without it, that increase would have been higher.
It never raised that damned much in a single year before.............your statement is horse hockey
Obamacare pledged to lower our rates........Utter BS as they climb even higher............
It was an entitlement law and nothing more.
Yes, unless the republicans was going to do the right thing and get government out of healthcare. They did the right thing!
I'm sure they will insist upon the american health"care" system trailing the rest of the advanced post industrial world's healthcare systems for much more cost to society.
And some of us remember BO's promise - lower cost, more choice, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance. Great, now we all know all politicians lie.
Nice..oh well, kawoosh goes the toilet
The GOP just couldn't get much lamer holy cow
Dems going to get a kick to the nut sack..
Now the 12 states who loose all of their insures in March of next year and the 9 million people who will loose everything at that time, will get to wear the implosion around their necks during an election year.. CONGRATULATIONS MORONS...
Who completely fucked up the health care system? Even retarded liberals know who.The Democraps screwed it up 7 years ago. Let them sumbitches fix it.Well, the replacement they came up with was so bad that probably EVERYONE is relieved, so that should take some pressure off the Republicans.Well now, the GOP has given up on Trumpcare for the time being. What a black eye, delivered by the GOP itself. LOL What a bunch of feckless dumb asses.
Jesus fucking christ, how retarded are you?
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The GOP had the votes and failed. That is the truth, and 2aguy lies about it.Republicans, this is on you and nobody else.
You had the votes if you could have reconciled your differences.
And now the big lie starts....
Does any country anywhere manage to have a system that provides good healthcare to all its citizens without profit anywhere?Who completely fucked up the health care system? Even retarded liberals know who.The Democraps screwed it up 7 years ago. Let them sumbitches fix it.Well, the replacement they came up with was so bad that probably EVERYONE is relieved, so that should take some pressure off the Republicans.Well now, the GOP has given up on Trumpcare for the time being. What a black eye, delivered by the GOP itself. LOL What a bunch of feckless dumb asses.
Jesus fucking christ, how retarded are you?
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It's been fucked up for as long as it has been for profit, and it's been utterly bipartisan, this trailing the rest of the advanced world.
There seem to be plenty of single payer systems that have much better healthcare outcomes at far less cost to society.Does any country anywhere manage to have a system that provides good healthcare to all its citizens without profit anywhere?Who completely fucked up the health care system? Even retarded liberals know who.The Democraps screwed it up 7 years ago. Let them sumbitches fix it.Well, the replacement they came up with was so bad that probably EVERYONE is relieved, so that should take some pressure off the Republicans.
Jesus fucking christ, how retarded are you?
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It's been fucked up for as long as it has been for profit, and it's been utterly bipartisan, this trailing the rest of the advanced world.
Maybe sometime around the election of 2018, Republicans will pretend they are working to repeal ObamacareIs there some kind of rule that a bill can only be voted on once? Ryan pulled it before it could even be voted on. Why?Standard political knee-jerking. I'd guess that once things calm down a bit the party will come out with some kind of Plan B.Why is everyone saying this new bill is "dead in the water" now for "the foreseeable future?" Why? Is it because of the budget they need to pass? I don't understand why so many people are saying we're now stuck with Obamacare until it sinks.
Seems to me that another issue is whether the Dems will be willing to play ball if (big "if" there) Trump and the GOP wise up and reach across the aisle. Right now it doesn't look like they would.
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He didn't have the Votes to pass it. It can be revised and brought to the floor again but I wouldn't look for anything soon.
And thank the gods for that! I still have insurance I can afford, and I can still get my heart meds without having to decide which is more important - my meds, or my rent.Ahahaha congratulations Dem's you still own Obamacare [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
