Atheism; An Intellectual Dead End

[sealybobo]

The common term for atheist is "idiot".

You have to be an idiot not to believe in a magic man in the sky

You have to be an idiot to believe that all you perceive is all that is, and that you are just some giant cosmic accident.

You have to be an idiot to believe that God poofed fully grown land animals into existing one day but that's what a lot of theists believe because that's the best their ancestors could figure.

Accident? Maybe theirs life surrounding every star. Maybe theirs life in europa? You're so small and unknowing and unaware you just don't know.

 

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I know you better than you know yourself.

You know dick about me.

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My signature line defines you.

Well, since I am neither Communist, nor socialist, it rather doesn't. Like I said you are full of shit, and know nothing about me.

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And yet you declined to state your political views. Beliefs not worth expressing are beliefs not worth having.

I don't disagree, except this isn't a discussion of ideological position, but of theological position. My ideological positions are irrelevant to this discussion. That is the problem. You hate atheists, because you think that all atheists also have ideological positions that you find anathema. Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but atheists are no different than theists in that we come in all different shapes, and sizes, and ideological positions.

Sure it is. You claimed you weren't a socialist or a commie. I assert that you are and that they are related to your atheism. How is your stating your political affiliations not relevant to this?

 

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Shawn Achor: The happy secret to better work | TED Talk | TED.com

I think he needs a valium because he seems to be a bit too animated.

You missed it.

 

[BreezeWood]

You're not smart

“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” – Mark Twain

This might almost be interesting if you had any actual thoughts of your own.

You haven't understood a word I've said yet so I'm showing you what Carl Sagan and Mark Twain have to say. Now you want me to go back to my own thoughts which you don't understand? Forget it.

If you don't like my thoughts or Sagan's or Twain's then I think your goal is to just frustrate us into leaving this forum.

Talking to you is the intellectual dead end.

Let's try listening to a reasonable, intelligent atheist explain why you're having this problem with communication. Maybe he can be a model for how your arguments should be constructed, but only if you want them to be compelling and interesting arguments.

I think it is you that should listen to him. Not once have I've seen Sam Harris degrade his opponents. You have instigated this several times here.

While completely failing to notice all the personal investive hurled from the other side. Congratulations, you are in full possession of an atheistic sense of moral relativism.

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While completely failing to notice all the personal investive hurled from the other side. Congratulations, you are in full possession of an atheistic sense of moral relativism.

no one is throwing anything at you that is not from the dishonesty of your OP, moralist.

 

[Caractacus]

You missed it.

I didn't watch the entirety of the video tbh- his giddiness was rather creepy.

 

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You'd better stick to things that are knowable. The unknowable frightens atheists.

Wrong! Im not afraid of death or hell you are. I laugh at such nonsense and go about living my life.

Now you can come up with reasons why you think I don't believe or why I deny God exists but you'll probably miss the mark. It's not Satan, im not angry and Its not because I want to be able to live in sin without consequences. I think belief holds us back, makes us dumb and is how they control us. I think it's made up.

So maybe, just maybe, I don't believe because it isn't true

Of course you are afraid of death. Normalization of deviance eventually leads to predictable surprises.

Dumb is spending your workday blogging from work. Predictable surprises await.

Of course I'm not afraid of death. Because there is nothing to be afraid of. Are you afraid of death?

How can I? I have eternal life. I have a soul and I have my faith. What do you have?

The same thing you do - nothing. You believe you have a soul, and eternal life, but has has been demonstrated throughout this thread, all you have to support that is your wishful thinking.

How do you know I don't? Do you have any proof that I don't? Can you prove to me that you love someone? Can you prove to me what a strawberry tastes like. It seems that some things can only be proven by trying them.

 

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You missed it.

I didn't watch the entirety of the video tbh- his giddiness was rather creepy.

Like I said before... you missed it.

 

[sealybobo]

You know dick about me.

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My signature line defines you.

Well, since I am neither Communist, nor socialist, it rather doesn't. Like I said you are full of shit, and know nothing about me.

Sent from my 5054N using Tapatalk

And yet you declined to state your political views. Beliefs not worth expressing are beliefs not worth having.

I don't disagree, except this isn't a discussion of ideological position, but of theological position. My ideological positions are irrelevant to this discussion. That is the problem. You hate atheists, because you think that all atheists also have ideological positions that you find anathema. Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but atheists are no different than theists in that we come in all different shapes, and sizes, and ideological positions.

Sure it is. You claimed you weren't a socialist or a commie. I assert that you are and that they are related to your atheism. How is your stating your political affiliations not relevant to this?

I told someone the other day Christians believe democracy and capitalism are God's favorites. You feel your capitalism is what Jesus would do? He would absolutely approve of social security and public schools. So Jesus was a socialist.

And he said give Caesar his taxes cheap ass.

 

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My signature line defines you.

Well, since I am neither Communist, nor socialist, it rather doesn't. Like I said you are full of shit, and know nothing about me.

Sent from my 5054N using Tapatalk

And yet you declined to state your political views. Beliefs not worth expressing are beliefs not worth having.

I don't disagree, except this isn't a discussion of ideological position, but of theological position. My ideological positions are irrelevant to this discussion. That is the problem. You hate atheists, because you think that all atheists also have ideological positions that you find anathema. Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but atheists are no different than theists in that we come in all different shapes, and sizes, and ideological positions.

Sure it is. You claimed you weren't a socialist or a commie. I assert that you are and that they are related to your atheism. How is your stating your political affiliations not relevant to this?

I told someone the other day Christians believe democracy and capitalism are God's favorites. You feel your capitalism is what Jesus would do? He would absolutely approve of social security and public schools. So Jesus was a socialist.

And he said give Caesar his taxes cheap ass.

And I couldn't be happier for you to believe that either.

 

[sealybobo]

weird, believing in a god is the intellectual dead end based on all the evidence...There's no evidence for it.

What evidence would you accept?

He could have and send another son. Only this time impregnate a guy. That'd be a miracle

 

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weird, believing in a god is the intellectual dead end based on all the evidence...There's no evidence for it.

What evidence would you accept?

He could have and send another son. Only this time impregnate a guy. That'd be a miracle

Maybe you should take that up with Him when you meet Him.

 

[BreezeWood]

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

 

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

There you go again with that 4th Century crap. Man you are predictable.

 

[BreezeWood]

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

There you go again with that 4th Century crap. Man you are predictable.

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Sure it is. You claimed you weren't a socialist or a commie. I assert that you are and that they are related to your atheism. How is your stating your political affiliations not relevant to this?

just clarifying where you are coming from christian ...

 

[sealybobo]

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

There you go again with that 4th Century crap. Man you are predictable.

He knows more about the history of your cult than you do

 

[sealybobo]

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

There you go again with that 4th Century crap. Man you are predictable.

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Sure it is. You claimed you weren't a socialist or a commie. I assert that you are and that they are related to your atheism. How is your stating your political affiliations not relevant to this?

just clarifying where you are coming from christian ...

I think I talked to him for about a week and didn't know he was a Christian.

I've known born again, Mormons and jehovas who waited before they admitted they were in cults. I have never met a Scientologist but want to.

 

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christianity is a 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion and is why modern christians gravitate to differential economics to facilitate their survival as an expense while brandishing disapproval for economies of common equity.

There you go again with that 4th Century crap. Man you are predictable.

He knows more about the history of your cult than you do

Maybe you should become his apostle.

 

[Tuatara]

You're not smart

“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” – Mark Twain

This might almost be interesting if you had any actual thoughts of your own.

You haven't understood a word I've said yet so I'm showing you what Carl Sagan and Mark Twain have to say. Now you want me to go back to my own thoughts which you don't understand? Forget it.

If you don't like my thoughts or Sagan's or Twain's then I think your goal is to just frustrate us into leaving this forum.

Talking to you is the intellectual dead end.

Let's try listening to a reasonable, intelligent atheist explain why you're having this problem with communication. Maybe he can be a model for how your arguments should be constructed, but only if you want them to be compelling and interesting arguments.

I think it is you that should listen to him. Not once have I've seen Sam Harris degrade his opponents. You have instigated this several times here.

While completely failing to notice all the personal investive hurled from the other side. Congratulations, you are in full possession of an atheistic sense of moral relativism.

I don't remember anyone else resorting to tell others to follow a model of communication of how arguments should be conducted whilst ignoring it themselves.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

This might almost be interesting if you had any actual thoughts of your own.

You haven't understood a word I've said yet so I'm showing you what Carl Sagan and Mark Twain have to say. Now you want me to go back to my own thoughts which you don't understand? Forget it.

If you don't like my thoughts or Sagan's or Twain's then I think your goal is to just frustrate us into leaving this forum.

Talking to you is the intellectual dead end.

Let's try listening to a reasonable, intelligent atheist explain why you're having this problem with communication. Maybe he can be a model for how your arguments should be constructed, but only if you want them to be compelling and interesting arguments.

I think it is you that should listen to him. Not once have I've seen Sam Harris degrade his opponents. You have instigated this several times here.

While completely failing to notice all the personal investive hurled from the other side. Congratulations, you are in full possession of an atheistic sense of moral relativism.

I don't remember anyone else resorting to tell others to follow a model of communication of how arguments should be conducted whilst ignoring it themselves.

It doesn't matter what you say you remember. All anyone needs to do is read..

 

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You missed it.

I didn't watch the entirety of the video tbh- his giddiness was rather creepy.

You should have because the ending is worth it if you know what to look for.