Barr is traveling to other countries trying to disprove Russia hacked the 2016 election!

[Paulie]

He’s gathering the evidence to expose the global pedophile ring.

Have a nice day.

The truly crazy part is that I don't know if ^^ this ^^ guy is being facetious or not...

I’m being dead serious. These disgusting people are going to have their day of reckoning.

You're deadly insane.

It’s exactly the opposite my dear. Get right with God.

I'm cool with all the gods and goddesses...but you're still cuckoo banana bird crazy.

Myself and many many others around the world are praying for you. Not just YOU, but everyone. Let go of this anger. Turn your tv off. A lot of you are spending way too much time immersing yourselves in this theatrical ridiculousness and it’s destroying people.

 

[Katniss]

BS - if

I had to stop reading most of these comments on this thread. It's depressing me that facts and reality don't seem to matter any more and conspiracy theories have taken root as truth.

It used to be that patriotism was one thing that would bring the country together but the seeds of hate have been sown and carefully cultivated by this Administration and it's disciples.

The country has moved into a dark age where racism is cheered, truth is no longer revered, and the law of the land doesn’t matter. We've started attacking those who have pledged an oath to the Constitution and therefor the country rather than a man. We have allowed power to be taken from two branches of our government and transferred to the executive branch. These actions will set a terrible precedence for generations to come.

America will need to fail to survive and we're watching that play out in real time.

Bad news for ya: this country hasn't been this great in decades. The power you speak of is doing all they can to stop Trump from further accomplishments. If the commies in Congress can't do it, they get their judges to carry out their evil.

Now they are trying to impeach a President based on what "they thought" a conversation held, instead of using the exact words. Want to talk about a bad precedence, you are a witness to that today; a cabal to overturn a fair election. The Democrats are introducing Thought Police into our country and politics.

I am well aware of the shortcomings of America. I travel around the world and know that we aren't as great as we tell ourselves but we have incredible potential and we are powerful when we put our minds together.

Regarding Congress......so what. So what that they are trying to impeach the president. We have a process in place that prevents one branch from overstepping their authority. If the evidence isn't there then the Senate will not impeach.

The danger is not following the established process. Throwing aside the law because it is not in your (not you personally) favor in the heat of the moment will only lead to chaos down the road.

We have already violated long standing rules under this Administration that will only work against our democracy and our republic in the long run.

Wait a minute. What you are telling me is it's okay for the Congress to impeach on the most ridiculous things. If that's what you want to see, then what goes around comes around. We will be seeing this impeachment process every time a House has different leadership than what's in the White House. Is that what you want?

The founders created the impeachment process to penalize a President who breaks laws. What the Democrats are doing is using the impeachment process to try and overturn an election, or at the very least, do enough damage so they stand a chance at winning the next one. They've been talking about impeachment before Trump even stepped foot in the White House. They are issuing a penalty and looking for a crime to fit it.

This country is too far apart to ever come back together again. On the right, the Tea Party types who are constitutionalists are trying to take over. On the left, Socialism is now the new direction, and their last three presidential contenders had the blessing of the US Communist Party.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find middle-ground between Israel and the Palestinians. It's also why I'm a firm believer that we need two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle from north to south, and let's separate already. Conservatives and like kind on one side, and liberals and Socialists on the other.

What I'm saying is that we have a process in place that we should follow. Once the process is broken then anything goes. So, I'd rather have a flawed process that allows for the facts to be brought out into the open.

You don't know whether the claims are true or not. Neither you or I are privy to specific detail yet. We'll learn more when there are open hearings.

We do agree on one thing. The country needs to be split.

But the Democrats didn't follow that process until recently. They held secret meetings and then went to the MSM making claim that Trump was dead meat. On the other hand, Republicans who attended said the Democrats are FOS.

Remember, the impeachment process is for high crimes and misdemeanors, not for political retribution. The Democrats are using it for the latter, as they promised they would since Trump took office.

BS - if you don't want to have an honest discussion then just say so but don't try and pass partisan talking points off to me. I'm not that gullible and I'm not going to go back and forth with you on spin. Facts are facts as was reinforced by a judge's decision.

Regarding what the republicans claim - I guess we'll learn soon enough when the hearings are held open to the public.

You keep making these claims based on whatever spin either party is making. Let's hear what the witnesses have to say for ourselves rather than taking a politician's word on the issue.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

William Barr travels to U.K. to 'do a hatchet job' on U.S. intelligence agencies

My Gosh!! The DOJ is being run by a Complete trump Stooge! He is trying to disprove facts that have already by verified by numerous Intel agencies in various countries.

OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK....FROM WITHIN!

Wrong Dead Wrong


A democracy of the unwise always commits suicide and now the men have awakened to go into action to stop the crooked congress and system

See how not a single republican voted for the inquiry

See how all republican senators signed the letter to stop the crooked inquiry

All but 2 women and rino Romney

Proving democrats are now toast because the men have awakened !!

 

[Katniss]

I had to stop reading most of these comments on this thread. It's depressing me that facts and reality don't seem to matter any more and conspiracy theories have taken root as truth.

It used to be that patriotism was one thing that would bring the country together but the seeds of hate have been sown and carefully cultivated by this Administration and it's disciples.

The country has moved into a dark age where racism is cheered, truth is no longer revered, and the law of the land doesn’t matter. We've started attacking those who have pledged an oath to the Constitution and therefor the country rather than a man. We have allowed power to be taken from two branches of our government and transferred to the executive branch. These actions will set a terrible precedence for generations to come.

America will need to fail to survive and we're watching that play out in real time.

See, I think the executive branch has been attacked-specifically one man. That's where your hatred lies and the attempt to kill the constitution-CIA style. Leave Trump alone and watch the US of A prosper as a family.

Are you feeble minded? Where the hell did you get that from my comments. Don't you question where my loyalty lies just because I demand we follow the Constitution and the law of the land. If you want to drop to your knees and kiss the ass of one man that's on you. You have only exposed yourself as a fool.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

BS - if

Bad news for ya: this country hasn't been this great in decades. The power you speak of is doing all they can to stop Trump from further accomplishments. If the commies in Congress can't do it, they get their judges to carry out their evil.

Now they are trying to impeach a President based on what "they thought" a conversation held, instead of using the exact words. Want to talk about a bad precedence, you are a witness to that today; a cabal to overturn a fair election. The Democrats are introducing Thought Police into our country and politics.

I am well aware of the shortcomings of America. I travel around the world and know that we aren't as great as we tell ourselves but we have incredible potential and we are powerful when we put our minds together.

Regarding Congress......so what. So what that they are trying to impeach the president. We have a process in place that prevents one branch from overstepping their authority. If the evidence isn't there then the Senate will not impeach.

The danger is not following the established process. Throwing aside the law because it is not in your (not you personally) favor in the heat of the moment will only lead to chaos down the road.

We have already violated long standing rules under this Administration that will only work against our democracy and our republic in the long run.

Wait a minute. What you are telling me is it's okay for the Congress to impeach on the most ridiculous things. If that's what you want to see, then what goes around comes around. We will be seeing this impeachment process every time a House has different leadership than what's in the White House. Is that what you want?

The founders created the impeachment process to penalize a President who breaks laws. What the Democrats are doing is using the impeachment process to try and overturn an election, or at the very least, do enough damage so they stand a chance at winning the next one. They've been talking about impeachment before Trump even stepped foot in the White House. They are issuing a penalty and looking for a crime to fit it.

This country is too far apart to ever come back together again. On the right, the Tea Party types who are constitutionalists are trying to take over. On the left, Socialism is now the new direction, and their last three presidential contenders had the blessing of the US Communist Party.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find middle-ground between Israel and the Palestinians. It's also why I'm a firm believer that we need two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle from north to south, and let's separate already. Conservatives and like kind on one side, and liberals and Socialists on the other.

What I'm saying is that we have a process in place that we should follow. Once the process is broken then anything goes. So, I'd rather have a flawed process that allows for the facts to be brought out into the open.

You don't know whether the claims are true or not. Neither you or I are privy to specific detail yet. We'll learn more when there are open hearings.

We do agree on one thing. The country needs to be split.

But the Democrats didn't follow that process until recently. They held secret meetings and then went to the MSM making claim that Trump was dead meat. On the other hand, Republicans who attended said the Democrats are FOS.

Remember, the impeachment process is for high crimes and misdemeanors, not for political retribution. The Democrats are using it for the latter, as they promised they would since Trump took office.

BS - if you don't want to have an honest discussion then just say so but don't try and pass partisan talking points off to me. I'm not that gullible and I'm not going to go back and forth with you on spin. Facts are facts as was reinforced by a judge's decision.

Regarding what the republicans claim - I guess we'll learn soon enough when the hearings are held open to the public.

You keep making these claims based on whatever spin either party is making. Let's hear what the witnesses have to say for ourselves rather than taking a politician's word on the issue.

That's if Schiff Face allows us to hear those witnesses. Even in the open, he still gets to make the rules. He can deny any or all witnesses that testified in the closed door meetings. He will likely subvert the Constitution as it calls for Congress--not one or two special members of Congress, to conduct an impeachment hearing.

 

[Katniss]

BS - if

I am well aware of the shortcomings of America. I travel around the world and know that we aren't as great as we tell ourselves but we have incredible potential and we are powerful when we put our minds together.

Regarding Congress......so what. So what that they are trying to impeach the president. We have a process in place that prevents one branch from overstepping their authority. If the evidence isn't there then the Senate will not impeach.

The danger is not following the established process. Throwing aside the law because it is not in your (not you personally) favor in the heat of the moment will only lead to chaos down the road.

We have already violated long standing rules under this Administration that will only work against our democracy and our republic in the long run.

Wait a minute. What you are telling me is it's okay for the Congress to impeach on the most ridiculous things. If that's what you want to see, then what goes around comes around. We will be seeing this impeachment process every time a House has different leadership than what's in the White House. Is that what you want?

The founders created the impeachment process to penalize a President who breaks laws. What the Democrats are doing is using the impeachment process to try and overturn an election, or at the very least, do enough damage so they stand a chance at winning the next one. They've been talking about impeachment before Trump even stepped foot in the White House. They are issuing a penalty and looking for a crime to fit it.

This country is too far apart to ever come back together again. On the right, the Tea Party types who are constitutionalists are trying to take over. On the left, Socialism is now the new direction, and their last three presidential contenders had the blessing of the US Communist Party.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find middle-ground between Israel and the Palestinians. It's also why I'm a firm believer that we need two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle from north to south, and let's separate already. Conservatives and like kind on one side, and liberals and Socialists on the other.

What I'm saying is that we have a process in place that we should follow. Once the process is broken then anything goes. So, I'd rather have a flawed process that allows for the facts to be brought out into the open.

You don't know whether the claims are true or not. Neither you or I are privy to specific detail yet. We'll learn more when there are open hearings.

We do agree on one thing. The country needs to be split.

But the Democrats didn't follow that process until recently. They held secret meetings and then went to the MSM making claim that Trump was dead meat. On the other hand, Republicans who attended said the Democrats are FOS.

Remember, the impeachment process is for high crimes and misdemeanors, not for political retribution. The Democrats are using it for the latter, as they promised they would since Trump took office.

BS - if you don't want to have an honest discussion then just say so but don't try and pass partisan talking points off to me. I'm not that gullible and I'm not going to go back and forth with you on spin. Facts are facts as was reinforced by a judge's decision.

Regarding what the republicans claim - I guess we'll learn soon enough when the hearings are held open to the public.

You keep making these claims based on whatever spin either party is making. Let's hear what the witnesses have to say for ourselves rather than taking a politician's word on the issue.

That's if Schiff Face allows us to hear those witnesses. Even in the open, he still gets to make the rules. He can deny any or all witnesses that testified in the closed door meetings. He will likely subvert the Constitution as it calls for Congress--not one or two special members of Congress, to conduct an impeachment hearing.

True - but we'll see first hand if he's manipulating the proceedings.

It's a win:win in my mind. This is what the American people are entitled to.

I want to know what the evidence is without it being framed for me.

 

[francoHFW]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Yes yes, super duper, I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL. Media coverage of the election was 60% about emails for crying out loud. Every Republican on the intelligence committees agreed Russians did the hacking. You live on another planet of ignorance and phony scandals that have never got anywhere in the real world because there is nothing to them but endlessly repeated garbage propaganda. You are the swamp, brainwashed functional moron. Everything about her emails has been investigated multiple times and she did nothing that general Powell and condoleezza didn't do.... She lost because of total b*******. 25 years of it....

 

[francoHFW]

William Barr travels to U.K. to 'do a hatchet job' on U.S. intelligence agencies

My Gosh!! The DOJ is being run by a Complete trump Stooge! He is trying to disprove facts that have already by verified by numerous Intel agencies in various countries.

OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK....FROM WITHIN!

The Daily KOS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

No WONDER these leftists are so FUCKED IN THE HEAD reading BRAIN WASH GARBAGE like that... CONSTANTLY.

It's called journalism and a quest for the truth, dingbat dupe. At this point you don't even know what that means.... The daily Kos may have made a couple of mistakes but it makes your GOP propaganda machine look exactly like the Nazi propaganda machine, totally full of s***.... Everything you know about Democrats is total garbage. There is so many phony scandals now oh, you have to have the deep state conspiracy to explain it. You're absolutely out of your minds and close to treason for all this disrespect of our wonderful institutions. All based on emails of people bullshiting about nothing taken out of context and spun out of all reality. For example your proof that the FBI is corrupt is based on some emails between two FBI lovers saying that Trump was a fool. Well in 2015 everybody thought Trump was a fool. Absolute idiocy and incredible perversion of our fine public servants based on absolutely nothing. You and your media are a total disgrace.

 

[Paulie]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Yes yes, super duper, I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL. Media coverage of the election was 60% about emails for crying out loud. Every Republican on the intelligence committees agreed Russians did the hacking. You live on another planet of ignorance and phony scandals that have never got anywhere in the real world because there is nothing to them but endlessly repeated garbage propaganda. You are the swamp, brainwashed functional moron. Everything about her emails has been investigated multiple times and she did nothing that general Powell and condoleezza didn't do.... She lost because of total b*******. 25 years of it....

Did you ever actually read those Podesta emails? I can’t imagine any sane rational person reading them and still thinking that Podesta and Clinton are good people. There were very disturbing things in those emails that should make a person’s skin crawl.

 

[francoHFW]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Yes yes, super duper, I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL. Media coverage of the election was 60% about emails for crying out loud. Every Republican on the intelligence committees agreed Russians did the hacking. You live on another planet of ignorance and phony scandals that have never got anywhere in the real world because there is nothing to them but endlessly repeated garbage propaganda. You are the swamp, brainwashed functional moron. Everything about her emails has been investigated multiple times and she did nothing that general Powell and condoleezza didn't do.... She lost because of total b*******. 25 years of it....

Did you ever actually read those Podesta emails? I can’t imagine any sane rational person reading them and still thinking that Podesta and Clinton are good people. There were very disturbing things in those emails that should make a person’s skin crawl.

What powerless staffers are bullshiting about has no meaning. You listen to hours and hours of con men and scumbag High School grad GOP pundits spinning these things totally out of all reality. This has all been investigated and nothing was found but right-wing idiocy repeated endlessly for dupes like you. Let's have a link to some of these horrible emails, super duper.

 

[Paulie]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Yes yes, super duper, I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL. Media coverage of the election was 60% about emails for crying out loud. Every Republican on the intelligence committees agreed Russians did the hacking. You live on another planet of ignorance and phony scandals that have never got anywhere in the real world because there is nothing to them but endlessly repeated garbage propaganda. You are the swamp, brainwashed functional moron. Everything about her emails has been investigated multiple times and she did nothing that general Powell and condoleezza didn't do.... She lost because of total b*******. 25 years of it....

Did you ever actually read those Podesta emails? I can’t imagine any sane rational person reading them and still thinking that Podesta and Clinton are good people. There were very disturbing things in those emails that should make a person’s skin crawl.

What powerless staffers are bullshiting about has no meaning. You listen to hours and hours of con men and scumbag High School grad GOP pundits spinning these things totally out of all reality. This has all been investigated and nothing was found but right-wing idiocy repeated endlessly for dupes like you. Let's have a link to some of these horrible emails, super duper.

You’re a big boy you’re perfectly capable of doing a basic search for Podesta emails and sifting through them. What is it with you people demanding links? You have the same internet as I do. Or go back to sleep, whichever works for you.

 

[JimH52]

William Barr travels to U.K. to 'do a hatchet job' on U.S. intelligence agencies

My Gosh!! The DOJ is being run by a Complete trump Stooge! He is trying to disprove facts that have already by verified by numerous Intel agencies in various countries.

OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK....FROM WITHIN!

Russian trolls are fighting furiously! They are defending their Asset From Within....trump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

There is no Russiai "hoax". There was a massive Russian disinformationo campaign run on several scores, through Twitter, FaceBook, and other social media platforms, including this one.

Mueller was very clear in his evidence, and the Russian hacking has been confirmed by British Intelligence and Dutch Intelligence, as well as the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA. The American accomplice to the Russians has already plead guilty to charges that he aided and abetted the Russians in setting up fake identities. But you have to ask yourself why Trump is so determined to prove Russia didn't hack the DNC?

The most logical reason is that Barrack Obama imposed a number of sanctions on Russia for election interference and hacking the DNC. That's in addition to the sanctions imposed on Russia by the EU and NATO for the annexation of Crimea and the invasion of the Ukraine, and the Magnitsky Act sanctions imposed for corruption in Russia. The Republican Congress and the Senate almost unanimously passed a law that Donald Trump couldn't lift sanctions against Russia without the Consent of Congress. Since the Democrats joined in whole heartedly, the law was veto proof which, much to the chagrin of both Trump and Putin.

Bill Browder, the American businessman whose lawyer, Sergei Maginitsky was murdered for exposing corruption in Russia, testified for an entire week before Congress. His bombshell testimony would normally have been the headline of the week, except that was the week that Donald Trump hired Anthony Scaramucci and fired Sean Spice and Lance Priebus. Nobody noticed they guy testifying how the Russian government stole $230 million dollars from his company, and murdered his lawyer when he complained. Browder finished his testimony on Friday, and the Mooch was fired on Monday.

Don Jr.'s meeting in Trump Tower about "Russian orphans" is really the Magnitsky Act. Putin banned Americans from adopting Russian orphans in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act sanctions. General Flynn was talking to the Russian Ambassador about lifting sanctions after the Inauguration. Russian oligarchs cannot travel freely or access their stolen millions because of these sanctions.

Trump is also encouraging Zelensky to "make a deal" with Russia. If the Ukrainians and Russia make peace and Trump can prove the Ukrainians hacked the DNC or interfere in the election, then Trump can make the case to Congress to let him lift the sanctions against Russia.

The sanctions are the quid pro quo for Russia helping Trump with the election.

There was a massive Russian disinformationo campaign run on several scores, through Twitter, FaceBook, and other social media platforms, including this one.

Thousands in Russian spending tricked literally dozens of Dems to vote for Trump. Just awful!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Liar in Chief appointed the perfect AG for him....a completely subservient stooge who will lie for him....

It worked for Obama.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Yes yes, super duper, I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL. Media coverage of the election was 60% about emails for crying out loud. Every Republican on the intelligence committees agreed Russians did the hacking. You live on another planet of ignorance and phony scandals that have never got anywhere in the real world because there is nothing to them but endlessly repeated garbage propaganda. You are the swamp, brainwashed functional moron. Everything about her emails has been investigated multiple times and she did nothing that general Powell and condoleezza didn't do.... She lost because of total b*******. 25 years of it....

I'm sure the Russian hack of the DNC and podesta emails and all the talk about Hillary's emails had no effect on the election LOL LOL LOL.

You're right, it was awful!!!

Dem corruption should never be exposed.....by anyone.
Russians, Americans, Ukrainians, it doesn't matter.

They must all keep Dem corruption hidden. Forever.

There ought to be a law!!!

 

[Third Party]

I had to stop reading most of these comments on this thread. It's depressing me that facts and reality don't seem to matter any more and conspiracy theories have taken root as truth.

It used to be that patriotism was one thing that would bring the country together but the seeds of hate have been sown and carefully cultivated by this Administration and it's disciples.

The country has moved into a dark age where racism is cheered, truth is no longer revered, and the law of the land doesn’t matter. We've started attacking those who have pledged an oath to the Constitution and therefor the country rather than a man. We have allowed power to be taken from two branches of our government and transferred to the executive branch. These actions will set a terrible precedence for generations to come.

America will need to fail to survive and we're watching that play out in real time.

See, I think the executive branch has been attacked-specifically one man. That's where your hatred lies and the attempt to kill the constitution-CIA style. Leave Trump alone and watch the US of A prosper as a family.

Are you feeble minded? Where the hell did you get that from my comments. Don't you question where my loyalty lies just because I demand we follow the Constitution and the law of the land. If you want to drop to your knees and kiss the ass of one man that's on you. You have only exposed yourself as a fool.

I DO question your loyalty-you say follow the constitution and yet say WE allowed power to be taken??? Schiff took it! Trump has been weakened by the dems power coup-if you support that, you are a TRAITOR! Go back and think about that!

 

[Wry Catcher]

A lie. He's traveling the world because Demonicrats are corrupt and invented the Russian hoax.

Nobody is denying Russia tried to influence an election one way or another. Many countries do, and we do the same. At the end of the day it had no impact. If it did, compare and contrast to TV, "news", web and debates who are bent-over for leftists with 24/7 propaganda.

Only the GOP and their fellow travelers believe Russia did not have any aid and comfort by trump&co. in Putin's effort to elect trump.

And Mueller

Bullshit (you're good at that, I can smell it over the Internet).

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

BS - if

Wait a minute. What you are telling me is it's okay for the Congress to impeach on the most ridiculous things. If that's what you want to see, then what goes around comes around. We will be seeing this impeachment process every time a House has different leadership than what's in the White House. Is that what you want?

The founders created the impeachment process to penalize a President who breaks laws. What the Democrats are doing is using the impeachment process to try and overturn an election, or at the very least, do enough damage so they stand a chance at winning the next one. They've been talking about impeachment before Trump even stepped foot in the White House. They are issuing a penalty and looking for a crime to fit it.

This country is too far apart to ever come back together again. On the right, the Tea Party types who are constitutionalists are trying to take over. On the left, Socialism is now the new direction, and their last three presidential contenders had the blessing of the US Communist Party.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find middle-ground between Israel and the Palestinians. It's also why I'm a firm believer that we need two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle from north to south, and let's separate already. Conservatives and like kind on one side, and liberals and Socialists on the other.

What I'm saying is that we have a process in place that we should follow. Once the process is broken then anything goes. So, I'd rather have a flawed process that allows for the facts to be brought out into the open.

You don't know whether the claims are true or not. Neither you or I are privy to specific detail yet. We'll learn more when there are open hearings.

We do agree on one thing. The country needs to be split.

But the Democrats didn't follow that process until recently. They held secret meetings and then went to the MSM making claim that Trump was dead meat. On the other hand, Republicans who attended said the Democrats are FOS.

Remember, the impeachment process is for high crimes and misdemeanors, not for political retribution. The Democrats are using it for the latter, as they promised they would since Trump took office.

BS - if you don't want to have an honest discussion then just say so but don't try and pass partisan talking points off to me. I'm not that gullible and I'm not going to go back and forth with you on spin. Facts are facts as was reinforced by a judge's decision.

Regarding what the republicans claim - I guess we'll learn soon enough when the hearings are held open to the public.

You keep making these claims based on whatever spin either party is making. Let's hear what the witnesses have to say for ourselves rather than taking a politician's word on the issue.

That's if Schiff Face allows us to hear those witnesses. Even in the open, he still gets to make the rules. He can deny any or all witnesses that testified in the closed door meetings. He will likely subvert the Constitution as it calls for Congress--not one or two special members of Congress, to conduct an impeachment hearing.

True - but we'll see first hand if he's manipulating the proceedings.

It's a win:win in my mind. This is what the American people are entitled to.

I want to know what the evidence is without it being framed for me.

It's far from a a win-win. I've been following politics for a very long time. It consumes most of my day to be honest. The Muller investigation is what Page/ Stroke-off referred to as their insurance policy. Well.....the insurance policy fell through, in spite of Mueller hiring mostly all anti-Trump or pro-Hillary people on this staff. There was no there-there after two years and 45 million dollars.

Trump is breathing down their necks. Barr and Durham are two of the best in the business. Durham recently announced his investigation is now a criminal investigation, which usually doesn't happen for many, many months. Durham has something, and the people in the cabal know it. That's why there are proceeding with this idiotic impeachment with such weak and flaccid evidence.

 

[Katniss]

I had to stop reading most of these comments on this thread. It's depressing me that facts and reality don't seem to matter any more and conspiracy theories have taken root as truth.

It used to be that patriotism was one thing that would bring the country together but the seeds of hate have been sown and carefully cultivated by this Administration and it's disciples.

The country has moved into a dark age where racism is cheered, truth is no longer revered, and the law of the land doesn’t matter. We've started attacking those who have pledged an oath to the Constitution and therefor the country rather than a man. We have allowed power to be taken from two branches of our government and transferred to the executive branch. These actions will set a terrible precedence for generations to come.

America will need to fail to survive and we're watching that play out in real time.

See, I think the executive branch has been attacked-specifically one man. That's where your hatred lies and the attempt to kill the constitution-CIA style. Leave Trump alone and watch the US of A prosper as a family.

Are you feeble minded? Where the hell did you get that from my comments. Don't you question where my loyalty lies just because I demand we follow the Constitution and the law of the land. If you want to drop to your knees and kiss the ass of one man that's on you. You have only exposed yourself as a fool.

I DO question your loyalty-you say follow the constitution and yet say WE allowed power to be taken??? Schiff took it! Trump has been weakened by the dems power coup-if you support that, you are a TRAITOR! Go back and think about that!

Even though I think your comment is kinda funny......I'm also embarrassed for you.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

William Barr travels to U.K. to 'do a hatchet job' on U.S. intelligence agencies

My Gosh!! The DOJ is being run by a Complete trump Stooge! He is trying to disprove facts that have already by verified by numerous Intel agencies in various countries.

OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK....FROM WITHIN!

Trump’s is the most corrupt of administrations – more so than Nixon.