I agree. And that is my whole point. This is not a struggle for rights. It is nothing more than a very well-funded campaign by one special interest group who wants to be included in something that has always been exclusive.
Oh, and by the way, my daughter is an adult and we also love each other and I would like nothing more than to be able to cash-in on all the benefits her and I are apparently missing because we are not married. And, if you think there is something wrong with this, it is you who feel this is an issue about sex. Not me.
Also, I am trying very hard to be fair and open-minded in this discussion. I have no beef with anyone. Live and let live is my policy. So when I mention sordid things in my post, by all means point it out to me. So please show me where I have done that and I will correct it.
That said, when I see a scam, I call it a scam. This is not fight for equal or universal rights because it does not include anyone else except gay people.
Sorry, but thats just the way I see it.
It's wrong to exclude them, and I think that somewhere in the depths of your Wisdom, you understand that it's wrong.
You're arguing from the basis of: but it's the law.
The whole argument is to change the Law. "But its the law" is not an argument for keeping the Law, but simply an obtuse statement of fact.
We're asking for your blatant opinion why Gays should be excluded from being married - not your opinion of "but but then slippery slope," or anything else. There's valid arguments to be made for and against Incest marriage, but that's not the topic of discussion.
If you want to change the law, change the law.
Personally, I could care less who gets to marry who.
My main objection is with the use of all the flowery language about the struggle for a so-called universal right when, in reality, the whole issue revolves around only one special interest group wanting to be included in something that almost everyone else is excluded from in one way or another.
I guess it has to be packaged this way if you want people to buy it. But don't kid yourself about this being some kind of fight for universal rights for everyone because it's not.
It's about a group fighting for its equal rights with another group - straights and gays.
And I'm not Gay, but I'm on the Gays' side of the issue.
Straight couples should not be afforded special benefits and recognition, under the Law, while Gay people may not. That *is* discrimination.
If you want to stand up for, or equate it with - beastiality, incessed, polygamy, etc. then that is your perrogative, but let those arguments stand on their own merits, and this one on its own merits.