Black republicans...who are they really?

[kaz]

The Democrats in this thread are all arguing blacks aren't capable of being treated like whites. When Obama is treated like a white liberal, that's racism. That's the argument

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Name blacks elected to congress in white Democrat districts, I must have missed when you didn't run from the question

 

[beagle9]

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Promise's, Promise's... You as in once you take control will then give them their just rewards for fighting against whitey (that ole Boogeyman who is that of the Republican party according to you) ?

The only people who use 'whitey' are white republicans.

Get out more. :0)

Maybe you need to get out more, because your claim is wrong.

:0) Let me guess .. I'm around about a ka'zillion times more black people than you are. I never hear the word 'whitey.' You're reading your 'How to be a Racist' handbook.

Around a gazillion more black people than me, but you see yourself as a scholar on white people and their ways of thinking ? Now who is it that don't get out much again ? Sounds like you need to get around some white people, and around some conservative black people before you condem them with you blinders on.

 

[JQPublic1]

And why do we hate Joe Biden, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle so much again? They're white. You people are the ones who treat blacks differently because they are black. If you want to fight racism, I'd start with the man in the mirror. Blacks are actually capable of being treated like whites

I don't know why you hate. Please tell us what drives your hate. My best hunch is that RW hate is generated in the masses by media brainwashing. The anger of the RW White male is well publicized and that history is punctuated with terrorism and violence.

Democrats are a cross section of America who recognize the threat angry RW White males pose. Blacks are included in the democratic front by choice. Blacks, Jews, Asians, and many White liberals know that if they are divided politically they will have lost their collective political clout and subsequently be subjected to the vengeance of the armed and dangerous angry RW White male.

. Is that where you think that the blacks have placed themselves into now ? Otherwise have they been unfair in their push for equality, and therefore have they enraged the anger of your supposed rw white males ? What do you think has been done in which makes you fear in this way ? If the assimilation of cultures has been going along ok, and the Klan had been deminished to a rag tag group over the years, and the majority of whites are all for blacks being in their cultural wheelhouse, then where does your fear above come from ? Is it from a knowledge that maybe things aren't being done fairly, and so you fear a backlash to come from that unfairness now ?

First of all I want to give thanks to the liberal White people who join us in politically neutralizing the angry RW White males and the women who love them. Angry RW White males are relentless in their efforts to turn back the hands of time where they had no competition in jobs and educational opportunities. They fought civil liberties for ALL every step pf the way and with every gain by minorities and women was/is seen as an assault on RW white male privilege and hegemony.

Changing demographics has altered traditional political outcomes and RW White males are being indoctrinated by their media masters to prepare for "taking their country back." These folks are armed and dangerous with access to every aspect of our lives. But we don't know who they are.
They could be judges, cops, school teachers or movie stars but they are all focused on the RW White male agenda and are capable of doing anything to attain their goals.

Just understand that what you're hearing from the Right are the death throes of a dying breed. The Neanderthals are dying .. and their children will grow up in a society that is not ruled by Neanderthals.

If this is indeed to become something violent, il will be a necessary element of change. The metamorphosis that is underway in this nation will not come without cost good brother.

The good news in this moment in time .. is YOU. The good news is you and Americans just like you.

The payoff for posting on a board full of dumb ass immature RW morons .. are the comments of people just like you. You post with honor and intelligence brother .. and you don't run from the ignorance.

Thanks.

Posting pictures of holocaust victims is running to the ignorance

Fire up that other brain cell and you might see the practical side of my analogy!

 

[kaz]

The Democrats in this thread are all arguing blacks aren't capable of being treated like whites. When Obama is treated like a white liberal, that's racism. That's the argument

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

What's stupid is repeating proven falsehoods.

:0) Like what? That your party is virtually all white?

You mean like 'republicans are racist?' :0)

Go take a look at this board .. every racist thing said comes from the Right. Republicans are racist and you know it.

If you claim I've repeated a falsehood .. step up to the mic and tell me what that is. :0)

Should be easy, huh?

Self victimization is so unattractive. Republicans support the same rules for blacks as whites, sad you think blacks aren't up to that. You're wrong, they are

 

[Clementine]

Yesterday, a heated "debate" (well, as much of a debate that can be had in this mostly right wing forum) was had about one poster's friend who, as a liberal, spoke about a right wing friend who claimed that a good part of the hatred toward Obama was based on race.

I do NOT believe that opposition toward Obama is wholly based on race.....however, to deny that some racism does not exist toward Obama's presidency, would be equally naive.

So, what would make someone who is black and relatively intelligent, embrace the GOP platform that is often enmeshed in policies that are not for the betterment of the black voting bloc?

I am reminded of a passage in Milton's Paradise Lost where Lucifer explains why he chose to defy God's wishes (and PLEASE, I do not mean even remotely to equate a black republican to the devil......but the analogy is still sound.) ........Anyway, through Milton's prose, Lucifer explains that he would rather be a "king in hell" than just one of many other angel standing beside the throne of God.

What I'm getting at is that for SOME blacks who have chosen to embrace right wing policies may do so because the notoriety gained by such a stance is much more self serving than to be one of the vast majority of blacks who side with the left ideology. In other words, if you want to get on the FOX channels or the Rush radio talk shows, your chances are vastly improved if you claim that you are an arch conservative AND black.

Explain exactly what policies are not good for blacks and why they hurt them. I don't understand why the left doesn't see people as equals and think they have to treat them differently.

 

[kaz]

There are few, if any, folks asserting that blacks aren't capable of being "treated like whites." Hell, my cats are capable of being treated that way, so is a rock. Being "treated like whites," however, is an activity that whites must exhibit, not merely talk about exhibiting. It's also an action that blacks cannot alone make whites perform. Accordingly, what blacks are capable of being treated like is irrelevant until they are convinced they've been treated that way.

Read my post and perhaps you'll understand why so many blacks don't feel as though that are even now treated that way by whites in general, even though there are surely white folks in blacks' lives who do treat them equitably. If/when white Americans universally, or nearly so, "walk that walk" as well as "talk that that," there's a good chance blacks will believe that they are indeed being treated equally and share equally in the bounty of opportunity the U.S. offers.

The Democrats in this thread are all arguing blacks aren't capable of being treated like whites. When Obama is treated like a white liberal, that's racism. That's the argument

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Good lord....both of you need to put some intellectual rigor and integrity into your remarks.

There are quite a few "relevant" black Republicans.

1. Ben Carson — renowned pediatric neurosurgeon; likely 2016 presidential candidate
2. Colin Powell — former secretary of state; U.S. Army general
3. Condoleezza Rice — former secretary of state
4. Clarence Thomas — Supreme Court justice
5. Mia Love — U.S. congresswoman, Utah
6. Tim Scott — U.S. senator, South Carolina
7. Jason Riley — Wall Street Journal editorial writer; author, “Please Stop Helping Us”
8. Michael Powell — former chairman, Federal Communications Commission; president, National Cable & Telecommunications Association
9. Will Hurd — Texas congressman
10. Herman Cain — businessman; 2012 presidential candidate
11. Thomas Sowell — economist; author
12. Allen West — former congressman, Florida; ex-Army officer
13. Janice Rogers Brown — D.C. Circuit judge
14. Shaquille O'Neal — retired NBA star; actor
15. Michael Steele — former chairman, Republican National Committee
16. Antonio Williams — director of government relations, Comcast
17. Deroy Murdock — nationally syndicated columnist; businessman
18. Lynn Swann — NFL Hall of Famer; 2006 Pennsylvania gubernatorial nominee
19. Elbert Guillory — Louisiana state senator; former Democrat
20. Dwayne Johnson — athlete; actor
21. James "Bo Snerdley" Golden — producer, "The Rush Limbaugh Show"
22. James Earl Jones — Oscar-winning actor
23. Artur Davis — Montgomery, Alabama, mayoral candidate; former Democrat
24. Walter Williams — economist; guest host, "The Rush Limbaugh Show"
25. Judge Lynn Toler — star of "Divorce Court"
26. LL Cool J — rapper; actor
27. Herschel Walker — retired NFL running back and Heisman Trophy winner
28. Joseph C. Phillips — "The Cosby Show" co-star; Christian commentator
29. Shelby Steele — author, "The Content of Our Character"; documentary filmmaker
30. Joseph Louis Clark — former high school principal portrayed by Morgan Freeman in "Lean On Me"
31. Prince — pop star
32. Alveda C. King — pro-life activist; former Georgia legislator; ex-Democrat; niece of Martin Luther King Jr.
33. Boyd Rutherford — Maryland lieutenant governor
34. Nolan Carroll — Philadelphia Eagles cornerback
35. Richard Ivory — founder, HipHopRepublican.com blog
36. Larry Elder — talk radio host; columnist
37. Jimmie "J.J." Walker — stand-up comedian; iconic comic actor on "Good Times" in 1970s
38. Peter Kirsanow — member, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights
39. Robert P. Young Jr. — chief justice, Michigan Supreme Court
40. Don King — boxing promoter
41. Star Parker — president, Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education (CURE); columnist; congressional candidate
42. Alan Keyes — former presidential candidate
43. Raphael "Raffi" Williams — deputy press secretary, RNC
44. Ward Connerly — former University of California regent; affirmative action foe
45. Crystal Wright — conservativeblackchick.com blogger
46. Armstrong Williams — radio commentator; author; media entrepreneur
47. Kevin A. Ross — host, "America’s Court with Judge Ross"; former Los Angeles Superior Court judge
48. Stephen N. Lackey — corporate philanthropist; GOP fundraiser
49. Michael L. Williams — Texas commissioner of education
50. B.J. Penn — assistant secretary of the Navy under George W. Bush
51. Conrad James — scientist; member, University of New Mexico Board of Regents; former state legislator
52. Robert J. Brown — CEO, B&C Associates
53. Harold Doley — Doley Securities
54. Logan Delany — Delany Capital; treasurer, Ben Carson Organization
55. Alvin Williams — Black America’s Political Action Committee
56. Robert A. George — New York Post editorial writer
57. Amy Russell — clerk for U.S. District Judge James M. Moody Jr. in Arkansas
58. Jane E. Powdrell-Culbert — New Mexico legislator
59. Karl Malone — retired NBA great
60. Niger Innis — national spokesman, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE); Nevada congressional candidate
61. Neal E. Boyd — pop opera singer; "America’s Got Talent" winner; candidate, Missouri legislature
62. Kay James — president, Gloucester Institute; former George W. Bush administration official
63. Erika Harold — Miss America 2003; 2014 congressional candidate in Illinois
64. Damon Dunn — former NFL wide receiver; real estate investor; Long Beach, California, mayoral candidate
65. Thomas Stith — chief of staff for North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory, leading governor’s "Innovation to Jobs" initiative
66. Robert Woodson — president, National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise
67. Sheryl Underwood — comedian; CBS "The Talk" commentator
68. David Tyree — retired NFL wide receiver; New York Giants director of player development; pro-family activist
69. Bruce Harris — nominated by Gov. Christie and defeated by state Democrats to be New Jersey’s first openly homosexual supreme court justice; former mayor of Chatham, N.J.
70. Orlando Watson — black media communications director, Republican National Committee
71. Scott Turner — Texas state legislator; retired NFL defensive back
72. Dale Wainwright — attorney, Bracewell & Giuliani; former associate justice, Texas Supreme Court
73. Stacey Dash — actress; Fox News commentator
74. Jackie Winters — Oregon state senator
75. Patricia Funderburk Ware — HIV/AIDS expert who served in Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations
76. Chidike Okeem — Nigerian-born, London-raised blogger
77. J.A. Parker — president, Lincoln Institute; publisher, The Lincoln Review
78. Nadra Enzi — "The Hood Conservative," New Orleans-based anti-crime activist
79. Mike Hill — Florida state legislator
80. Sonja Schmidt — PJTV commentator
81. Chelsi P. Henry — entrepreneur; political strategist
82. Joseph Perkins — columnist, Orange County Register
83. Carson Ross — mayor, Blue Springs Missouri
84. William Barclay Allen — former chairman, U.S. Civil Rights Commission; candidate for U.S. Senate in California
85. Clarence M. Mitchell IV — "C4," Baltimore talk radio personality
86. Deneen Borelli — author, "Blacklash"; FreedomWorks outreach director
87. John Meredith — lobbyist; son of civil rights pioneer James Meredith
88. Bill Hardiman — Michigan state veterans services administrator; former mayor, Kentwood, Michigan; former state senator and congressional candidate
89. Jill Upson — West Virginia legislator
90. Ken Blackwell — former Cincinnati mayor, Ohio secretary of state, and GOP gubernatorial nominee
91. Vernon Robinson — campaign director for Draft Ben Carson movement; former North Carolina congressional candidate
92. Amy Holmes — news anchor, TheBlaze TV
93. Dr. Elaina George — otolaryngologist; ObamaCare critic
94. Tony Childress — sheriff, Livingston County, Illinois
95. Larry Dean Thompson — George W. Bush deputy attorney general
96. Kevin Jackson — host, "Black Sphere" radio show
97. Michel Faulkner — retired New York Jets defensive lineman; New York City pastor; 2010 congressional nominee against Rep. Charles Rangel
98. Ryan Frazier — investment consultant; Colorado congressional candidate; Mitt Romney adviser
99. Brian C. Roseboro — international banker; George W. Bush Treasury Department official
100. David Webb — talk radio host; political columnist

I think the black community recognizes some of them as being relevant not only as blacks, but also as conservatives.

Though not as long as the list of black Democrats or white Republicans, the list of former and current elected/political blacks is pretty long.

(Looking over that list, I was kinda surprised. There are a few blacks on that list whom I've known since my childhood, though as with many childhood friendships, we don't routinely socialize as adults, even though our paths occasionally cross. Thinking back, I can recall them being objects of ridicule by other black high schoolers. I never really understood that.)

Facts aren't exactly the friend of liberalism

 

[320 Years of History]

The Democrats in this thread are all arguing blacks aren't capable of being treated like whites. When Obama is treated like a white liberal, that's racism. That's the argument

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Good lord....both of you need to put some intellectual rigor and integrity into your remarks.

There are quite a few "relevant" black Republicans.

1. Ben Carson — renowned pediatric neurosurgeon; likely 2016 presidential candidate
2. Colin Powell — former secretary of state; U.S. Army general
3. Condoleezza Rice — former secretary of state
4. Clarence Thomas — Supreme Court justice
5. Mia Love — U.S. congresswoman, Utah
6. Tim Scott — U.S. senator, South Carolina
7. Jason Riley — Wall Street Journal editorial writer; author, “Please Stop Helping Us”
8. Michael Powell — former chairman, Federal Communications Commission; president, National Cable & Telecommunications Association
9. Will Hurd — Texas congressman
10. Herman Cain — businessman; 2012 presidential candidate
11. Thomas Sowell — economist; author
12. Allen West — former congressman, Florida; ex-Army officer
13. Janice Rogers Brown — D.C. Circuit judge
14. Shaquille O'Neal — retired NBA star; actor
15. Michael Steele — former chairman, Republican National Committee
16. Antonio Williams — director of government relations, Comcast
17. Deroy Murdock — nationally syndicated columnist; businessman
18. Lynn Swann — NFL Hall of Famer; 2006 Pennsylvania gubernatorial nominee
19. Elbert Guillory — Louisiana state senator; former Democrat
20. Dwayne Johnson — athlete; actor
21. James "Bo Snerdley" Golden — producer, "The Rush Limbaugh Show"
22. James Earl Jones — Oscar-winning actor
23. Artur Davis — Montgomery, Alabama, mayoral candidate; former Democrat
24. Walter Williams — economist; guest host, "The Rush Limbaugh Show"
25. Judge Lynn Toler — star of "Divorce Court"
26. LL Cool J — rapper; actor
27. Herschel Walker — retired NFL running back and Heisman Trophy winner
28. Joseph C. Phillips — "The Cosby Show" co-star; Christian commentator
29. Shelby Steele — author, "The Content of Our Character"; documentary filmmaker
30. Joseph Louis Clark — former high school principal portrayed by Morgan Freeman in "Lean On Me"
31. Prince — pop star
32. Alveda C. King — pro-life activist; former Georgia legislator; ex-Democrat; niece of Martin Luther King Jr.
33. Boyd Rutherford — Maryland lieutenant governor
34. Nolan Carroll — Philadelphia Eagles cornerback
35. Richard Ivory — founder, HipHopRepublican.com blog
36. Larry Elder — talk radio host; columnist
37. Jimmie "J.J." Walker — stand-up comedian; iconic comic actor on "Good Times" in 1970s
38. Peter Kirsanow — member, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights
39. Robert P. Young Jr. — chief justice, Michigan Supreme Court
40. Don King — boxing promoter
41. Star Parker — president, Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education (CURE); columnist; congressional candidate
42. Alan Keyes — former presidential candidate
43. Raphael "Raffi" Williams — deputy press secretary, RNC
44. Ward Connerly — former University of California regent; affirmative action foe
45. Crystal Wright — conservativeblackchick.com blogger
46. Armstrong Williams — radio commentator; author; media entrepreneur
47. Kevin A. Ross — host, "America’s Court with Judge Ross"; former Los Angeles Superior Court judge
48. Stephen N. Lackey — corporate philanthropist; GOP fundraiser
49. Michael L. Williams — Texas commissioner of education
50. B.J. Penn — assistant secretary of the Navy under George W. Bush
51. Conrad James — scientist; member, University of New Mexico Board of Regents; former state legislator
52. Robert J. Brown — CEO, B&C Associates
53. Harold Doley — Doley Securities
54. Logan Delany — Delany Capital; treasurer, Ben Carson Organization
55. Alvin Williams — Black America’s Political Action Committee
56. Robert A. George — New York Post editorial writer
57. Amy Russell — clerk for U.S. District Judge James M. Moody Jr. in Arkansas
58. Jane E. Powdrell-Culbert — New Mexico legislator
59. Karl Malone — retired NBA great
60. Niger Innis — national spokesman, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE); Nevada congressional candidate
61. Neal E. Boyd — pop opera singer; "America’s Got Talent" winner; candidate, Missouri legislature
62. Kay James — president, Gloucester Institute; former George W. Bush administration official
63. Erika Harold — Miss America 2003; 2014 congressional candidate in Illinois
64. Damon Dunn — former NFL wide receiver; real estate investor; Long Beach, California, mayoral candidate
65. Thomas Stith — chief of staff for North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory, leading governor’s "Innovation to Jobs" initiative
66. Robert Woodson — president, National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise
67. Sheryl Underwood — comedian; CBS "The Talk" commentator
68. David Tyree — retired NFL wide receiver; New York Giants director of player development; pro-family activist
69. Bruce Harris — nominated by Gov. Christie and defeated by state Democrats to be New Jersey’s first openly homosexual supreme court justice; former mayor of Chatham, N.J.
70. Orlando Watson — black media communications director, Republican National Committee
71. Scott Turner — Texas state legislator; retired NFL defensive back
72. Dale Wainwright — attorney, Bracewell & Giuliani; former associate justice, Texas Supreme Court
73. Stacey Dash — actress; Fox News commentator
74. Jackie Winters — Oregon state senator
75. Patricia Funderburk Ware — HIV/AIDS expert who served in Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations
76. Chidike Okeem — Nigerian-born, London-raised blogger
77. J.A. Parker — president, Lincoln Institute; publisher, The Lincoln Review
78. Nadra Enzi — "The Hood Conservative," New Orleans-based anti-crime activist
79. Mike Hill — Florida state legislator
80. Sonja Schmidt — PJTV commentator
81. Chelsi P. Henry — entrepreneur; political strategist
82. Joseph Perkins — columnist, Orange County Register
83. Carson Ross — mayor, Blue Springs Missouri
84. William Barclay Allen — former chairman, U.S. Civil Rights Commission; candidate for U.S. Senate in California
85. Clarence M. Mitchell IV — "C4," Baltimore talk radio personality
86. Deneen Borelli — author, "Blacklash"; FreedomWorks outreach director
87. John Meredith — lobbyist; son of civil rights pioneer James Meredith
88. Bill Hardiman — Michigan state veterans services administrator; former mayor, Kentwood, Michigan; former state senator and congressional candidate
89. Jill Upson — West Virginia legislator
90. Ken Blackwell — former Cincinnati mayor, Ohio secretary of state, and GOP gubernatorial nominee
91. Vernon Robinson — campaign director for Draft Ben Carson movement; former North Carolina congressional candidate
92. Amy Holmes — news anchor, TheBlaze TV
93. Dr. Elaina George — otolaryngologist; ObamaCare critic
94. Tony Childress — sheriff, Livingston County, Illinois
95. Larry Dean Thompson — George W. Bush deputy attorney general
96. Kevin Jackson — host, "Black Sphere" radio show
97. Michel Faulkner — retired New York Jets defensive lineman; New York City pastor; 2010 congressional nominee against Rep. Charles Rangel
98. Ryan Frazier — investment consultant; Colorado congressional candidate; Mitt Romney adviser
99. Brian C. Roseboro — international banker; George W. Bush Treasury Department official
100. David Webb — talk radio host; political columnist

I think the black community recognizes some of them as being relevant not only as blacks, but also as conservatives.

Though not as long as the list of black Democrats or white Republicans, the list of former and current elected/political blacks is pretty long.

(Looking over that list, I was kinda surprised. There are a few blacks on that list whom I've known since my childhood, though as with many childhood friendships, we don't routinely socialize as adults, even though our paths occasionally cross. Thinking back, I can recall them being objects of ridicule by other black high schoolers. I never really understood that.)

. All traitors according to the racist here, and for whom make a claim to the Democrat party.

That "traitor" argument strikes me as little more than the modern day equivalent of the schism between adherents to W.E.B Dubois and Booker T. Washington's approaches to achieving parity and success for blacks as a whole. It think it wholly absurd, to say nothing of grossly disrespectful and ignorant, to presuppose that any black person is a traitor to the struggles of black Americans overall. That's one hell of an "Uncle Tom" accusation to make and have no very rigorously developed argument to present in support of it with regard to any individual black conservative or black conservatives one the whole. For whatever one thinks about black conservatives, that they'd, in a manner of speaking, "cut off their nose to spite their face" is preposterous.

 

[kaz]

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Promise's, Promise's... You as in once you take control will then give them their just rewards for fighting against whitey (that ole Boogeyman who is that of the Republican party according to you) ?

The only people who use 'whitey' are white republicans.

Get out more. :0)

Another leftist who doesn't grasp sarcasm

 

[JQPublic1]

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Name blacks elected to congress in white Democrat districts, I must have missed when you didn't run from the question

Give me one good damn reason why I should do that. Stop deflecting and look it up yourself…. I am not interested.

 

[Unkotare]

None of you right wingers have addressed the intent of the O/P....All you've done.....as usual.....is bitched and moaned about Obama ad nauseum......

Get over it......you know, if he could run.....he'd be elected again.

Well you insulted the black community,claiming that blacks only identify with conservative ideals,just to look good,an absurd notion,but no surprise absurdity is a main dish for the OP.

i love when racist pondscum call others "racist".

Have you done that?

 

[Unkotare]

None of you right wingers have addressed the intent of the O/P....All you've done.....as usual.....is bitched and moaned about Obama ad nauseum......

Get over it......you know, if he could run.....he'd be elected again.

Well you insulted the black community,claiming that blacks only identify with conservative ideals,just to look good,an absurd notion,but no surprise absurdity is a main dish for the OP.

i love when racist pondscum call others "racist".

They can't help themselves! Even after all they've said and done to Obama; they're oblivious to how hateful they were to him and his family! It was truly pathetic and embarrassing showing the world how behind and backwards in a lot of the country!

What has been said and done about obama that was not said and done about Bush?

 

[kaz]

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Name blacks elected to congress in white Democrat districts, I must have missed when you didn't run from the question

Give me one good damn reason why I should do that. Stop deflecting and look it up yourself…. I am not interested.

Exactly, your claim Democrats aren't racist because white Democrat districts elect whites blows you out of the water

 

[320 Years of History]

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

That 1 Senator was a gift from NC; Gov. Haley appointed Scott to replace DeMint who left to shill for Heritage Foundation! I feel embarrassed for these Republicans who know more than likely they're being "used," but somehow delude themselves that they're just being smarter in some way! The way Obama was treated from the beginning should have been a wake up call for all of them! Excuses abound, but looks like bigotry and worse to me! A dog is treated better by today's Rep. Party! I won't forget it even if not an Obama fan! The office deserved better treatment from the opposition!

So you criticize Republicans for not putting blacks in places like the Senate then you criticize them for doing it. You're a useless example of humanity

First of all, Edward Brooke was nobody's "gift." He was a Republican Senator from Massachusetts.

Second, nobody was criticizing Republicans for having seated a black person in Congress.

Third, if nothing else, white Democrats did something for blacks: they provided clear evidence to blacks that it is in fact possible for a black person to win the highest elected office in the land. Prior to Mr. Obama's election, whether that was possible or not was a debatable proposition, and it wasn't debatable for lack of other blacks having tried to win that position.

It was in the post I responded to ...

Okay. On re-reading the post, I agree. I was mistaken re: the "criticism" remark I made.

The other member has, since that post, aired a level of presumptiveness that I find a bit detestable. Initially, I took his remarks as implying that there aren't enough blacks who ascend to political power within the GOP. Seeing his "cherry picking" approach to argumentation absent more than one example here and another there, but no real coherence to tie them together so that his claims can credibly be extrapolated to black conservatives/the GOP in general, I think your take on the remark was correct. My read of it was mistaken because I gave the writer more credit than he is due.

(Apologies if I've used the wrong gender pronouns above. I didn't bother to look for clues about what may be the right pronoun to have used.)

 

[JQPublic1]

That's just more ignorant bullshit from an ignorant poster.

Blacks participate at EVERY LEVEL of the Democratic Party .. including at the very top. The Republican Party remains virtually all white.

END OF STORY about how blacks are treated by democrats.

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

What's stupid is repeating proven falsehoods.

:0) Like what? That your party is virtually all white?

You mean like 'republicans are racist?' :0)

Go take a look at this board .. every racist thing said comes from the Right. Republicans are racist and you know it.

If you claim I've repeated a falsehood .. step up to the mic and tell me what that is. :0)

Should be easy, huh?

Self victimization is so unattractive. Republicans support the same rules for blacks as whites, sad you think blacks aren't up to that. You're wrong, they are

You may support the same rules for blacks as whites but given the 300 year head start Whites have, those rules are slanted in your favor as a group. Blacks, being allowed to enter the competition rather late have had to fight an uphill battle against hostile "conservatives" bent on keeping them near the bottom rungs of society. You failed.
Still they RISE….

 

[JQPublic1]

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

Well look at you who can't stand whitey, but then the whitey that's being used to open the doors in the Democrat party, well they are somehow OK ? What will happen to those used up whitey's once you get done with them ?

We will make them congressmen and party leaders.

Name blacks elected to congress in white Democrat districts, I must have missed when you didn't run from the question

Give me one good damn reason why I should do that. Stop deflecting and look it up yourself…. I am not interested.

Exactly, your claim Democrats aren't racist because white Democrat districts elect whites blows you out of the water

I'll bet $1000 that you can't show me where I said democrats are not racist. Some democrats ARE racist and some are also conservative.

 

[Unkotare]

. Is that where you think that the blacks have placed themselves into now ? Otherwise have they been unfair in their push for equality, and therefore have they enraged the anger of your supposed rw white males ? What do you think has been done in which makes you fear in this way ? If the assimilation of cultures has been going along ok, and the Klan had been deminished to a rag tag group over the years, and the majority of whites are all for blacks being in their cultural wheelhouse, then where does your fear above come from ? Is it from a knowledge that maybe things aren't being done fairly, and so you fear a backlash to come from that unfairness now ?

First of all I want to give thanks to the liberal White people who join us in politically neutralizing the angry RW White males and the women who love them. Angry RW White males are relentless in their efforts to turn back the hands of time where they had no competition in jobs and educational opportunities. They fought civil liberties for ALL every step pf the way and with every gain by minorities and women was/is seen as an assault on RW white male privilege and hegemony.

Changing demographics has altered traditional political outcomes and RW White males are being indoctrinated by their media masters to prepare for "taking their country back." These folks are armed and dangerous with access to every aspect of our lives. But we don't know who they are.
They could be judges, cops, school teachers or movie stars but they are all focused on the RW White male agenda and are capable of doing anything to attain their goals.

YOU are a big part of the problem, race-baiting douchebag.

Race will continue to be tough discussion for all concerned due to the wretched history! Sorry, it can't be purged from the history books; though the ones from Texas have tried their best! Atrocities occurred in the past and they continue to happen; no matter how much you want to forget the problem!

Race will continue to be a tough discussion as long as you disingenuous, Democrats hacks race bait to keep 90% of them voting for you

Frankly, most of us don't give a shit about a discussion. Fuck a discussion. Rights are determined by what you can demand, not discussions.

If you don't figure it out or agree .. who the fuck cares?

Good luck with that attitude.

 

[Fiero425]

None of you right wingers have addressed the intent of the O/P....All you've done.....as usual.....is bitched and moaned about Obama ad nauseum......

Get over it......you know, if he could run.....he'd be elected again.

Well you insulted the black community,claiming that blacks only identify with conservative ideals,just to look good,an absurd notion,but no surprise absurdity is a main dish for the OP.

i love when racist pondscum call others "racist".

They can't help themselves! Even after all they've said and done to Obama; they're oblivious to how hateful they were to him and his family! It was truly pathetic and embarrassing showing the world how behind and backwards in a lot of the country!

What has been said and done about obama that was not said and done about Bush?

The deflections begin! "W" being raked over the coals because of his rotten administration! He turned a budget surplus into a deficit, more than doubled the Nat'l Debt when it was going down under Clinton, started losing 600-800 thousand jobs a month when unemployment was low before he took office, started 2 wars on a lie, and made a mess out of Katrina! Those are facts that can't be ignored or placated with "what abouts?" You sound like someone who would rail about Bill's troubles when the topic is taxes! I guess you could have a problem concentrating and you can't help it, but unfortunately the Republican Intelligencia is about as pathetic trying to defend their governance whenever busted for malfeasance!

 

[Correll]

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

What's stupid is repeating proven falsehoods.

:0) Like what? That your party is virtually all white?

You mean like 'republicans are racist?' :0)

Go take a look at this board .. every racist thing said comes from the Right. Republicans are racist and you know it.

If you claim I've repeated a falsehood .. step up to the mic and tell me what that is. :0)

Should be easy, huh?

Self victimization is so unattractive. Republicans support the same rules for blacks as whites, sad you think blacks aren't up to that. You're wrong, they are

You may support the same rules for blacks as whites but given the 300 year head start Whites have, those rules are slanted in your favor as a group. Blacks, being allowed to enter the competition rather late have had to fight an uphill battle against hostile "conservatives" bent on keeping them near the bottom rungs of society. You failed.
Still they RISE….

I don't know how old you are, but I entered the race WAY after that.

I went to school with plenty of blacks and there were no rules bent or slanted for me.

I entered the workforce, and there were no special rules bent or slanted for me.

If anything I witnessed the other way, that rules were bent to encourage "Diversity" ie in favor of blacks.


And the idea that "hostile conservatives" are bent on keeping them near the bottom is fucking nonsense only an asshole would say.

 

[320 Years of History]

Whatever drives black conservatives to be conservative, I think it has little to do with their having no real of what it means to be black. I think they just see the GOP as being better suited to achieving their ends.

. Might be better suited to their conservative way of thinking. Ever consider that one ?

Red:
Yes.

The fact that I didn't mention any specific potential reason in the post quoted just above doesn't mean or intimate that I've not considered the validity of that reason. As I noted in my first post in this thread, "the reasons are quite possibly as varied as there are blacks who are Republican. Despite the potential for causal variability regarding why some blacks are members of the GOP."

I'll note further that I wrote:

. There are a few blacks on that list [of prominent black conservatives] whom I've known since my childhood, though as with many childhood friendships, we don't routinely socialize as adults, even though our paths occasionally cross. Thinking back, I can recall them being objects of ridicule by other black high schoolers. I never really understood that.

​

Perhaps it would have helped had I written, "....recall them being, on account of their conservative stances, ridiculed by other..." Maybe that verbiage would have made it clearer that I have long wondered why one, black conservatives in particular, become the objects of scorn merely for their political views.

 

[kaz]

You mean other than the former head of the GOP? Or do you mean two former Secretaries of State and the one on the Supreme Court? And blacks are 90+% Democrat, dumb ass.

Also, there is exactly 1 black Democrat in the Senate, and 1 black Republican. And how many blacks in the House are from white districts?

White Democrats have done shit for Blacks.

Your argument is stupid. You're talking about a couple of appointments compared to thousands of elected black democrats all over the country at every level. That's stupid.

You're comparing a party that has opened the doors to black representation at EVERY LEVEL .. including the President of the United States .. to a party that actively and openly seeks to disenfranchise the black vote every chance it gets. That's stupid.

You right-wingers do much better in conversations exclusive to just you. Then you can say all kinds of childish dumb ass shit unencumbered by truth, facts, or even common sense.

What's stupid is repeating proven falsehoods.

:0) Like what? That your party is virtually all white?

You mean like 'republicans are racist?' :0)

Go take a look at this board .. every racist thing said comes from the Right. Republicans are racist and you know it.

If you claim I've repeated a falsehood .. step up to the mic and tell me what that is. :0)

Should be easy, huh?

Self victimization is so unattractive. Republicans support the same rules for blacks as whites, sad you think blacks aren't up to that. You're wrong, they are

You may support the same rules for blacks as whites but given the 300 year head start Whites have, those rules are slanted in your favor as a group. Blacks, being allowed to enter the competition rather late have had to fight an uphill battle against hostile "conservatives" bent on keeping them near the bottom rungs of society. You failed.
Still they RISE….

My father in law came from Korea not speaking a word of English and when he died he was literally a neighbor of Linda Carter and Sugar Ray Leonard. Why do you think blacks can't do the same thing again that isn't racist ???

What blacks need is opportunity, handouts and a lowered bar keep them down, don't lift them up