BOOM: Trump Reveals First Dept. He’ll Cut as President… Liberals Howl in Horror!!!!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

 

[koshergrl]

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

Oh, you don't know how true a statement you've made:

Donald Trump billed his ‘University’ as a road to riches, but critics call it a fraud

Donald Trump billed his ‘University’ as a road to riches, but critics call it a fraud

Never licensed as a school, Trump University was in reality a series of real estate workshops in hotel ballrooms around the country, not unlike many other for-profit self-help or motivational seminars. Though short-lived, it remains a thorn in Trump’s side nearly five years after its operations ceased: In three pending lawsuits, including one in which the New York attorney general is seeking $40 million in restitution, former students allege that the enterprise bilked them out of their money with misleading advertisements.

Instead of a fast route to easy money, these Trump University students say they found generic seminars led by salesmen who pressured them to invest more cash in additional courses. The students say they didn’t learn Trump’s secrets and never received the one-on-one guidance they expected.

 

[alpine]

Makes sense; more ignorant fools, more vote for Trump...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

 

[Toro]

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

Harvard's a joke?

In what alternative universe is this true?

The bitter Conservative Media Echo Chamber Universe?

The guys I know coming out of Harvard are making $200-$250k to start. How much are those critics of Harvard making?

 

[koshergrl]

What an ignorant schmuck you are

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

Yes, I know they get a pass on the admissions requirements, via the extra "points" they get for being of various races, countries, and backgrounds.

 

[Nosmo King]

He's getting closer to Rick Perry's "Oops!" line.

Conservatives hate education. Next up? The EPA because Conservatives don't believe in pollution.

We love education. We despise indoctrination. There's a difference, but uneducated, indoctrinated lefties don't understand. They can't. It's a vicious circle.

Cite three examples of what your handlers have taught you is indoctrination.

 

[rdean]

EXCELLENT IDEA...send it BACK TO THE STATES AS IT WAS MEANT TO BE!!!!

Conservative Tribune ^ | 12/28/2015
Speaking with Fox News host Chris Wallace this weekend, 2016 GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump made a remarkable statement about what he planned for the Department of Education, if and when he becomes president. "I may cut Department of Education," Trump said. "I believe Common Core is a very bad thing. I believe that we should be -- you know, educating our children from Iowa, from New Hampshire, from South Carolina, from California, from New York. I think that it should be local education." Many Americans agree, especially as the Department of Education has grown into a massive bureaucracy more...

Hilarious! This is why Republicans truly have a "tard" dilemma.

How many right wingers on the USMB think the students overseas are so better educated on far, far less money? Most of them? All of them?
So by what standard do these uneducated right wingers measure how those foreign students are doing so much better than our children here? What makes them think those students are better educated?

It's really quite simple. So simple in fact, even a simpleton should be able to follow along.
The data being used is how well those foreign students are doing on standardized tests.

Standardized testing, hmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh, that's right "Common Core". Common core is all about every US student passing national standardized tests. The one thing Republicans hate.
They point to how well foreign students are doing on standardized tests, but think standardized tests are terrible.

So the real reason. Why do right wingers hate standardized testing. The answer is obvious. Not just because they don't have the ability to learn. They hate that the material focuses on science for one. No teaching magical creation there. No rewritten history. No earth billions of years old. Climate change.
They have to learn the material or remain failures. Get rid of the federal government and the states will teach what ever they want. Think about it. What idiocy do you think Tennessee, Kentucky and Texas will "teach" if given the chance.

 

[g5000]

What idiocy do you think Tennessee, Kentucky and Texas will "teach" if given the chance.

They all had the chance. Common Core participation is voluntary at the state level.

Tennessee and Kentucky adopted Common Core. Texas is one of only five states which did not.

 

[g5000]

That's what's so funny about the Common Core debate these days. Common Core was entirely developed at the state level, with state monies, and NO federal monies. 45 states adopted Common Core.

45 states. Those aren't all blue states. Hmmmm...

That means almost every red state loooooooved Common Core at one time.


Then the black guy said he liked it, too, and the next thing you know, all these red states are like, "Hey, how'd that Common Core get in our peanut butter?!?"

Very Orwellian. "We have always been at war with Common Core."

It's been hilarious watching conservative heroes like Jan Brewer and Bobby Jindal doing about faces on the program they approved. Talk about flip flopping hacks! Holy shit!

 

[g5000]

Common Core exposes just self-destructive these rubes are. They went from loving Common Core to hating Common Core solely for political reasons. They literally would rather their kids grow up to be just as backward and stupid as they are than to be in agreement with the black guy on ONE thing.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It just shows you how totally fucking retarded morons have become that the senile old man disparages the greatest universities, not only in America, but in the world.

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

Yes, I know they get a pass on the admissions requirements, via the extra "points" they get for being of various races, countries, and backgrounds.

That's really interesting. I am sure you have something to back that up and it is not something you heard. Got a link to that policy from at least 500 universities?

The university that my daughter currently attends has a foreign enrollment of 2%.

The university where I earned my BA has 4% foreign students.

The university where I earned my graduate degree has 2% foreign students.

Wow! Those foreign students are really sucking up the seats!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What idiocy do you think Tennessee, Kentucky and Texas will "teach" if given the chance.

They all had the chance. Common Core participation is voluntary at the state level.

Tennessee and Kentucky adopted Common Core. Texas is one of only five states which did not.

Kentucky was one of the first to implement it and is leading the way!

 

[Kondor3]

...Congress just passed and Obama signed a law removing any incentives for states to use Common Core standards. The idiots have won!...

Incorrect.

The People have won.

Why-in-the-world would we want to "dumb-down" the disciplines taught by good schools, and substitute metaphorical ebonics across the board?

To level the playing field?

Phukk that.

If a school district is under-performing, let it raises its own standards, rather than dragging the rest of the area down with it.

You don't obtain Excellence by lowering your sights and thereby changing the definition of Excellence.

You obtain Excellence by fixing what's wrong in your own back yard, then pushing hard to exploit the overhauled and improved system to its fullest.

But that's waaaaaaaayy too much like actual 'work'.

Typical mindless forced social re-engineering in a proto-nanny-state era.

If it's true, that Common Core is now being jettisoned, then, good riddance to bad rubbish.

All you did in that post was expose your own ignorance. Almost every word was wrong.

Thank you for your feedback...

Next player, please...

 

[koshergrl]

Our universities have become a joke.

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

Yes, I know they get a pass on the admissions requirements, via the extra "points" they get for being of various races, countries, and backgrounds.

That's really interesting. I am sure you have something to back that up and it is not something you heard. Got a link to that policy from at least 500 universities?

The university that my daughter currently attends has a foreign enrollment of 2%.

The university where I earned my BA has 4% foreign students.

The university where I earned my graduate degree has 2% foreign students.

Wow! Those foreign students are really sucking up the seats!

Foreign and minority:

"For 2013, the average GPA of all students applying to medical schools was 3.54 and the average MCAT score was 28.4.."

" For those students applying to medical school with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29), black applicants were almost four times more likely to be admitted than Asian applicants (81.0% vs. 22.5%), and 2.44 times more likely than white applicants (81.0% vs. 33.2%). Likewise, Hispanic students with average GPAs and average MCAT scores were about twice as likely to be accepted to medical school compared to white applicants (64.1% vs. 33.2%), and almost three times as likely as Asian applicants (64.1% vs. 22.5%). Overall, black (81%) and Hispanic (64.1%) applicants with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29) were accepted to medical school at rates much higher than the average acceptance rate of 34.6% for all students with those academic credentials."

Acceptance rates at US medical schools in 2013 reveal racial profiling and affirmative discrimination for blacks, Hispanics - AEI

And oh by the way, I didn't say anything about the RATIO of minorities/foreigner-American/white. I said they had different standards that make it easier for foreigners and minorities to get in and stay in.

 

[Vigilante]

Then we DON'T NEED an Education dept. after all! Glad you clarified that FACT! Bring it back to the states where it belongs!

No, we don't need states like Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana to actually educate their poor and special needs students. No one will be left to handle all of the Pell Grants and Federal Student Loan programs. I guess we can do away with all of that too. Nobody needs to go to college anyway!

You're right, today's college is just an indoctrination camp for you liberals! All I have to do is look at the human debris that comes out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and others!

Liberals? I am just stating facts. I am a conservative Republican but I am an educator first and I know the details that you do not. I have an inside track to know what you do not.

Well, ACT like a conservative! Your OPINION is worth the SAME as my opinion! But you'll act like a liberal college grad!

How? I told you the truth. Your opinion, while worthwhile, is not based on the same level of knowledge I have in my area of expertise. I have a Master's degree in the subject for a reason. That reason is to be a better teacher and administrator.

You must be a true liberal if you prefer people to lie to you. I may not like any better than you do, but facts are facts, despite what most libs try to tell you.

Do not feel alone, because many people jump to conclusions because the see my statements on education, but that is one area where most conservative never tread, so they are in unfamiliar territory at all times.

Lie to me, people with higher degrees than you state what I stated about Common Core, so believe me, your OPINION is NOT supported by people that have more experience and more EDUCATION than you have! And that is MY OPINION!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's why everyone in the world wants to come here to attend college.

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

Yes, I know they get a pass on the admissions requirements, via the extra "points" they get for being of various races, countries, and backgrounds.

That's really interesting. I am sure you have something to back that up and it is not something you heard. Got a link to that policy from at least 500 universities?

The university that my daughter currently attends has a foreign enrollment of 2%.

The university where I earned my BA has 4% foreign students.

The university where I earned my graduate degree has 2% foreign students.

Wow! Those foreign students are really sucking up the seats!

Foreign and minority:

"For 2013, the average GPA of all students applying to medical schools was 3.54 and the average MCAT score was 28.4.."

" For those students applying to medical school with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29), black applicants were almost four times more likely to be admitted than Asian applicants (81.0% vs. 22.5%), and 2.44 times more likely than white applicants (81.0% vs. 33.2%). Likewise, Hispanic students with average GPAs and average MCAT scores were about twice as likely to be accepted to medical school compared to white applicants (64.1% vs. 33.2%), and almost three times as likely as Asian applicants (64.1% vs. 22.5%). Overall, black (81%) and Hispanic (64.1%) applicants with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29) were accepted to medical school at rates much higher than the average acceptance rate of 34.6% for all students with those academic credentials."

Acceptance rates at US medical schools in 2013 reveal racial profiling and affirmative discrimination for blacks, Hispanics - AEI

And oh by the way, I didn't say anything about the RATIO of minorities/foreigner-American/white. I said they had different standards that make it easier for foreigners and minorities to get in and stay in.

Do you not know the difference between colleges and medical schools? Also, your data deals with minorities, not international students. If it were easier for foreign students to get in, would they not make up a greater percentage of students enrolled?

Nice epic fail on your part! I'll be here if you want to fail again.

 

[koshergrl]

They want to come here to attend college because the standard of living is so much better than where they come from, and because it's EASIER for them to get in to our crap colleges than it is for them to get into any other. That doesn't work for our native sons and daughters (and by native, I do not mean Indian). They can't pay ENOUGH to get in.

Or how about the possibility that good schools like ours do not exist anywhere in the world? Easier for them to get in? Do you think they get a pass on the admissions requirements?

Don't let your talking points get in the way of intelligent thought.

Yes, I know they get a pass on the admissions requirements, via the extra "points" they get for being of various races, countries, and backgrounds.

That's really interesting. I am sure you have something to back that up and it is not something you heard. Got a link to that policy from at least 500 universities?

The university that my daughter currently attends has a foreign enrollment of 2%.

The university where I earned my BA has 4% foreign students.

The university where I earned my graduate degree has 2% foreign students.

Wow! Those foreign students are really sucking up the seats!

Foreign and minority:

"For 2013, the average GPA of all students applying to medical schools was 3.54 and the average MCAT score was 28.4.."

" For those students applying to medical school with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29), black applicants were almost four times more likely to be admitted than Asian applicants (81.0% vs. 22.5%), and 2.44 times more likely than white applicants (81.0% vs. 33.2%). Likewise, Hispanic students with average GPAs and average MCAT scores were about twice as likely to be accepted to medical school compared to white applicants (64.1% vs. 33.2%), and almost three times as likely as Asian applicants (64.1% vs. 22.5%). Overall, black (81%) and Hispanic (64.1%) applicants with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27-29) were accepted to medical school at rates much higher than the average acceptance rate of 34.6% for all students with those academic credentials."

Acceptance rates at US medical schools in 2013 reveal racial profiling and affirmative discrimination for blacks, Hispanics - AEI

And oh by the way, I didn't say anything about the RATIO of minorities/foreigner-American/white. I said they had different standards that make it easier for foreigners and minorities to get in and stay in.

Do you not know the difference between colleges and medical schools? Also, your data deals with minorities, not international students. If it were easier for foreign students to get in, would they not make up a greater percentage of students enrolled?

Nice epic fail on your part! I'll be here if you want to fail again.

You think a medical school isn't a college?

 

[Care4all]

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