Breaking- Its Manafort -Indicted

[Natural Citizen]

Income Tax is theft.

That is all.

 

[miketx]

you want to know go ask him.

I'm asking you. And if you cannot say why this guy lied to the FBI, then the only reasonable answer is that he did so to hide his collusion because he thought he would get away with it.

The loons keep getting loonier. You wan't someone that has nothing to do with this cluster f*ck to tell you why someone involved in it did something. How much more INSANE can you get?

 

[The Derp]

That link certainly doesn't prove the Russians hacked the DNC , idiot.

Then who did, and why did the Russian "professor" tell Papadopolous that he had thousands of hacked e-mails?

 

[JoeMoma]

so you're saying they've been planning this since 2013 or earlier?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

who was he working for at the time? you're now trying to link trump and podesta.

damn funny shit mang.

What ever you say Boo Boo. Sorry if I don't bother trying to keep up with your silly attempts to mischaracterize what's happening. Right wing logic is just so strained.

so by your own logic, you're saying what modesta did in 2013, while working with podesta, will somehow link him to bad things trump did 3 years later.

and *my* logic is strained.

I'm saying a charge of tax improprieties could make Manafort more cooperative with the rest of the investigation. You doubt that?

Yes anyone with logic will. All Trump has to do is pardon Manafort.

Yes. Obstruction of justice is something you could expect from him.

The president has the constitutional power to pardon for any reason he sees fit, thus, it is not obstruction.

 

[The Derp]

The loons keep getting loonier. You wan't someone that has nothing to do with this cluster f*ck to tell you why someone involved in it did something. How much more INSANE can you get?

Y'all have no problems when it comes to determining Hillary Clinton's intentions...does that not cut both ways?

 

[Londan Werewolf]

when did the FBI or DOJ look at the DNC server then? this should be precious.

Doesn't matter because Russia hacked it, then shared those documents -via Papadopolouos- with Trump. That's collusion.

collusion isn't a crime. D'OH

I knew this would happen. I said even if we caught the Trumpster red handed suddenly the shift would go to denying collusion occurred to saying it's no big deal. You guys are so pathetic.

You are a lying piece of shit.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

What are they paying you?

collusion isn't a crime, not in the way it's being used here.

Example, if Trump and Putin had made a TV commerical together, wheere they made fun of Hillary . Not a crime.

Now if Trump had paid Putin, or given him some financial consideration or promised some form of payment, that's a violation of federal campaign laws because you can NOT pay a foreigner for campaign work, but that is not collusion. Collusion in this context absolutely is not against the law.

You guys didn't explain it this way a month ago. A month ago there was no collusion. Nothing burger remember. You didn't explain that there was collusion but it was the OK kind.

"It seems to me that what has been meant by collusion since this controversy began has been some agreement or understanding that the Russians would in some way assist Trump’s electoral prospects and would be rewarded in some way by Trump as president acting favorably toward Russia," Lowenstein said. "That would very likely be illegal and surely would be highly improper."

Stanford University law professor Nathaniel Persily cited the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. A 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on that law found that foreign nationals could not make expenditures "to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

How much did Russia spend on Facebook ads alone making up fake anti Hillary stories?

Russia's RT reveals Twitter's pitch to sell millions of dollars in 2016 election ads

I wasn't here a month ago, but those of us who speak English as our first language know that saying "collusion isn't a crime" doesn't mean "there was collusion"

The fact is collusion isn't a crime AND you have no evidence that it took place anyway.

 

[sealybobo]

you want to know go ask him.

I'm asking you. And if you cannot say why this guy lied to the FBI, then the only reasonable answer is that he did so to hide his collusion because he thought he would get away with it.

No wrong. The probably reason he lied is because he broke the law, collusion isn't illegal, therefor he had no reason to lie about that.

You are repeating a lie Fox News said. What you are saying is mostly false.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

Stop repeating Fox News lies. Rush lies. Breitbart lies. You are just liars and you are traitors and colluders. Trump is the biggest criminal. Drain the swamp my fucking ass.

 

[sealybobo]

Doesn't matter because Russia hacked it, then shared those documents -via Papadopolouos- with Trump. That's collusion.

collusion isn't a crime. D'OH

I knew this would happen. I said even if we caught the Trumpster red handed suddenly the shift would go to denying collusion occurred to saying it's no big deal. You guys are so pathetic.

You are a lying piece of shit.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

What are they paying you?

collusion isn't a crime, not in the way it's being used here.

Example, if Trump and Putin had made a TV commerical together, wheere they made fun of Hillary . Not a crime.

Now if Trump had paid Putin, or given him some financial consideration or promised some form of payment, that's a violation of federal campaign laws because you can NOT pay a foreigner for campaign work, but that is not collusion. Collusion in this context absolutely is not against the law.

You guys didn't explain it this way a month ago. A month ago there was no collusion. Nothing burger remember. You didn't explain that there was collusion but it was the OK kind.

"It seems to me that what has been meant by collusion since this controversy began has been some agreement or understanding that the Russians would in some way assist Trump’s electoral prospects and would be rewarded in some way by Trump as president acting favorably toward Russia," Lowenstein said. "That would very likely be illegal and surely would be highly improper."

Stanford University law professor Nathaniel Persily cited the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. A 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on that law found that foreign nationals could not make expenditures "to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

How much did Russia spend on Facebook ads alone making up fake anti Hillary stories?

Russia's RT reveals Twitter's pitch to sell millions of dollars in 2016 election ads

I wasn't here a month ago, but those of us who speak English as our first language know that saying "collusion isn't a crime" doesn't mean "there was collusion"

The fact is collusion isn't a crime AND you have no evidence that it took place anyway.

But if we do have evidence, it's not a crime, right? Because a month ago we didn't have evidence YOU THOUGHT but no we do, now you're moving the goal post.

And yes, it can be a crime. What you are saying is mostly false.

You've only been here a month but you're just as stupid as all the rwnj's who've been here for years.

Welcome by the way.

 

[sealybobo]

you want to know go ask him.

I'm asking you. And if you cannot say why this guy lied to the FBI, then the only reasonable answer is that he did so to hide his collusion because he thought he would get away with it.

No wrong. The probably reason he lied is because he broke the law, collusion isn't illegal, therefor he had no reason to lie about that.

Stop being Eric Bolling's parot

Legal scholars told us the word "collusion" is vague and may not be specifically used in legal language. But conduct that may be described as collusion could potentially be subject to multiple federal laws, including statutes on foreign contributions to elections and fraud.

We rate Bolling’s statement Mostly False.

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[jc456]

The loons keep getting loonier. You wan't someone that has nothing to do with this cluster f*ck to tell you why someone involved in it did something. How much more INSANE can you get?

Y'all have no problems when it comes to determining Hillary Clinton's intentions...does that not cut both ways?

we have evidence we don't need to know her intentions accept to hide her dealings. oops.

 

[Londan Werewolf]

you want to know go ask him.

I'm asking you. And if you cannot say why this guy lied to the FBI, then the only reasonable answer is that he did so to hide his collusion because he thought he would get away with it.

No wrong. The probably reason he lied is because he broke the law, collusion isn't illegal, therefor he had no reason to lie about that.

You are repeating a lie Fox News said. What you are saying is mostly false.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

Stop repeating Fox News lies. Rush lies. Breitbart lies. You are just liars and you are traitors and colluders. Trump is the biggest criminal. Drain the swamp my fucking ass.

You're just stupid aren't you? Our laws are codified. If "collusion" were a crime you could point out the relevant statute. It isn't (not in this context anyway) therefor you can't.

It's pretty simple to understand. Politically colluding with the Russians would be bad for any politician, but criminally it would not. Now if money or promises of favors are exchanged, then yes various laws apply, but just saying "collusion" does not point to any illegal activity.

 

[sealybobo]

The loons keep getting loonier. You wan't someone that has nothing to do with this cluster f*ck to tell you why someone involved in it did something. How much more INSANE can you get?

Y'all have no problems when it comes to determining Hillary Clinton's intentions...does that not cut both ways?

Bet you a month ago Republicans would have bet the farm that there would be no indictments. NOTHING Burger is what they said. They didn't know they just hoped. They believed Trump even though his actions starting with his creepy dinner with Comey clearly showed he was trying to cover this up.

 

[The Derp]

Because you made the blanket statement that innocent people don't lie to the FBI and that is not true.

1. I never made such a statement. So now you're lying about what I said. Go back through my posts and you'll see that you're deliberately bullshitting about what I said so you could feel better about your own shitty argument.

2. I'm not asking whether or not the guy is guilty (he is, he agreed to a plea deal), I'm asking why he lied in the first place? You guys don't have an answer for that because the reason is obvious; he was trying to cover his ass and thought he could get away with it.

If you don't want to get called out for making untrue statements, I'd suggest you stop making untrue statements.

I never made that statement. So you're either attributing something someone else said to me (which would make you a shithead) or you're building a straw man (which would also make you a shithead).

So you're a shithead either way.

 

[DarkFury]

Doesn't matter because Russia hacked it, then shared those documents -via Papadopolouos- with Trump. That's collusion.

collusion isn't a crime. D'OH

I knew this would happen. I said even if we caught the Trumpster red handed suddenly the shift would go to denying collusion occurred to saying it's no big deal. You guys are so pathetic.

You are a lying piece of shit.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

What are they paying you?

collusion isn't a crime, not in the way it's being used here.

Example, if Trump and Putin had made a TV commerical together, wheere they made fun of Hillary . Not a crime.

Now if Trump had paid Putin, or given him some financial consideration or promised some form of payment, that's a violation of federal campaign laws because you can NOT pay a foreigner for campaign work, but that is not collusion. Collusion in this context absolutely is not against the law.

You guys didn't explain it this way a month ago. A month ago there was no collusion. Nothing burger remember. You didn't explain that there was collusion but it was the OK kind.

"It seems to me that what has been meant by collusion since this controversy began has been some agreement or understanding that the Russians would in some way assist Trump’s electoral prospects and would be rewarded in some way by Trump as president acting favorably toward Russia," Lowenstein said. "That would very likely be illegal and surely would be highly improper."

Stanford University law professor Nathaniel Persily cited the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. A 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on that law found that foreign nationals could not make expenditures "to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

How much did Russia spend on Facebook ads alone making up fake anti Hillary stories?

Russia's RT reveals Twitter's pitch to sell millions of dollars in 2016 election ads

I wasn't here a month ago, but those of us who speak English as our first language know that saying "collusion isn't a crime" doesn't mean "there was collusion"

The fact is collusion isn't a crime AND you have no evidence that it took place anyway.

Welcome to USMB. We have some of the most uneducated ignorant pervert supporting liberals on the net!

 

[jc456]

you want to know go ask him.

I'm asking you. And if you cannot say why this guy lied to the FBI, then the only reasonable answer is that he did so to hide his collusion because he thought he would get away with it.

LOL dude seriously, I answered you already twice. go ask him yourself.

 

[sealybobo]

And now of course Republicans will say Hillary did it too!!! LOL. Sure she did. Sure. Yah right. Nothing burger. Ben Gazi.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The "fruit from the dirty tree" doctrine with regards to the 14th amendment will ensure he walks. Can't investigate and prosecute based on lies.

 

[The Derp]

The probably reason he lied is because he broke the law

What law did he break that caused him to lie?

collusion isn't illegal, therefor he had no reason to lie about that.

Collusion most definitely is illegal, particularly the way in which Papadopolous acted on it, then lied about it.

 

[sealybobo]

collusion isn't a crime. D'OH

I knew this would happen. I said even if we caught the Trumpster red handed suddenly the shift would go to denying collusion occurred to saying it's no big deal. You guys are so pathetic.

You are a lying piece of shit.

Fox News host's Mostly False claim collusion isn't a crime

What are they paying you?

collusion isn't a crime, not in the way it's being used here.

Example, if Trump and Putin had made a TV commerical together, wheere they made fun of Hillary . Not a crime.

Now if Trump had paid Putin, or given him some financial consideration or promised some form of payment, that's a violation of federal campaign laws because you can NOT pay a foreigner for campaign work, but that is not collusion. Collusion in this context absolutely is not against the law.

You guys didn't explain it this way a month ago. A month ago there was no collusion. Nothing burger remember. You didn't explain that there was collusion but it was the OK kind.

"It seems to me that what has been meant by collusion since this controversy began has been some agreement or understanding that the Russians would in some way assist Trump’s electoral prospects and would be rewarded in some way by Trump as president acting favorably toward Russia," Lowenstein said. "That would very likely be illegal and surely would be highly improper."

Stanford University law professor Nathaniel Persily cited the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. A 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on that law found that foreign nationals could not make expenditures "to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."

"A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime," Persily said. "And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, then it could be a crime."

How much did Russia spend on Facebook ads alone making up fake anti Hillary stories?

Russia's RT reveals Twitter's pitch to sell millions of dollars in 2016 election ads

I wasn't here a month ago, but those of us who speak English as our first language know that saying "collusion isn't a crime" doesn't mean "there was collusion"

The fact is collusion isn't a crime AND you have no evidence that it took place anyway.

Welcome to USMB. We have some of the most uneducated ignorant pervert supporting liberals on the net!

And we have fucking right wing retards like Darkfurybeaver

 

[Geaux4it]

The loons keep getting loonier. You wan't someone that has nothing to do with this cluster f*ck to tell you why someone involved in it did something. How much more INSANE can you get?

Y'all have no problems when it comes to determining Hillary Clinton's intentions...does that not cut both ways?

Bet you a month ago Republicans would have bet the farm that there would be no indictments. NOTHING Burger is what they said. They didn't know they just hoped. They believed Trump even though his actions starting with his creepy dinner with Comey clearly showed he was trying to cover this up.

And POTUS to date has been proved correct on multiple issues. This one is no different. He said he has no knowledge of collusion by his team and certainly not by himself

-Geaux