BREAKING NEWS!!!!! A real shocker

[Skylar]

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

No one is saying people who stomp on the flag should be killed. That's the difference you don't seem to understand. Once again, you're saying people who draw Muhammad deserved to be killed.

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

There is no dead security guard, numskull. One was shot in the ankle. That's hardly a fatal wound.

You're another piece of shit who thinks Pam Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad.

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

 

[bripat9643]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

What security guard's life?

Grampa doesn't think they should be allowed to have so security so any Muslim savage who wants to can walk right in and kill them all.

No, what Grampa believes is you are terrible at reading other people's minds

Mind reading isn't required.

 

[bripat9643]

No one is saying people who stomp on the flag should be killed. That's the difference you don't seem to understand. Once again, you're saying people who draw Muhammad deserved to be killed.

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

There is no dead security guard, numskull. One was shot in the ankle. That's hardly a fatal wound.

You're another piece of shit who thinks Pam Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad.

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

I just quoted it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No one is saying people who stomp on the flag should be killed. That's the difference you don't seem to understand. Once again, you're saying people who draw Muhammad deserved to be killed.

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

There is no dead security guard, numskull. One was shot in the ankle. That's hardly a fatal wound.

You're another piece of shit who thinks Pam Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad.

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

Like you made up the dead security guard?

 

[Valerie]

Actually not ridiculous in the least. Actions that may result in reactions are to be expected, and often illuminating. We can see early historical results of MLK's actions; the Geller actions are too recent.

In both cases they took actions to highlight injustices and real problems in our society.

Geller has illuminated nothing... Charlie Hebdo she is not.

she is a delusional attention whore much like manifold thinking he is some sort of hero for calling women ***** on the internet...

 

[Skylar]

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

There is no dead security guard, numskull. One was shot in the ankle. That's hardly a fatal wound.

You're another piece of shit who thinks Pam Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad.

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

I just quoted it.

Nope. You didn't. As I didn't say 'Pamela Geller deserves to die for drawing Muhammad' in anything you posted.

The only word you managed to quote accurately was 'Pamela'.

Try again. This time reading for comprehension.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

What security guard's life?

Grampa doesn't think they should be allowed to have so security so any Muslim savage who wants to can walk right in and kill them all.

No, what Grampa believes is you are terrible at reading other people's minds

Mind reading isn't required.

You're still stomping your feet cause I made you look stupid last week. Your poor,poor ego can't take another blow can it?

Blow me ya hyperpartisan troll

 

[bripat9643]

Actually not ridiculous in the least. Actions that may result in reactions are to be expected, and often illuminating. We can see early historical results of MLK's actions; the Geller actions are too recent.

In both cases they took actions to highlight injustices and real problems in our society.

Geller has illuminated nothing...

she is a delusional attention whore much like manifold thinking he is some sort of hero for calling women ***** on the internet...

What is she delusional about, the fact that Muslims will kill you if you excercise your First Amendment rights?

 

[bripat9643]

There is no dead security guard, numskull. One was shot in the ankle. That's hardly a fatal wound.

You're another piece of shit who thinks Pam Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad.

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

I just quoted it.

Nope. You didn't. As I didn't say 'Pamela Geller deserves to die for drawing Muhammad' in anything you posted.

The only word you managed to quote accurately was 'Pamela'.

Try again. This time reading for comprehension.

No, you didn't say that exact sequence of words. Apparently you believe there is only one way to say something.

 

[bripat9643]

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

What security guard's life?

Grampa doesn't think they should be allowed to have so security so any Muslim savage who wants to can walk right in and kill them all.

No, what Grampa believes is you are terrible at reading other people's minds

Mind reading isn't required.

You're still stomping your feet cause I made you look stupid last week. Your poor,poor ego can't take another blow can it?

Blow me ya hyperpartisan troll

You made me look stupid? When?

 

[Annie]

Actually not ridiculous in the least. Actions that may result in reactions are to be expected, and often illuminating. We can see early historical results of MLK's actions; the Geller actions are too recent.

In both cases they took actions to highlight injustices and real problems in our society.

Geller has illuminated nothing... Charlie Hebdo she is not.

she is a delusional attention whore much like manifold thinking he is some sort of hero for calling women ***** on the internet...

You are entitled to your opinion. Seems to me she's asking the right questions and putting out the correct predictions:

Pamela Geller A Response to My Critics This Is a War - TIME

 

[Skylar]

And can you quote me saying that I think Geller deserves to be killed for drawing Muhammad?

If so, feel free. You'll find rather quickly that you're quoting yourself pretending to be me. Which doesn't work quite as well, does it?

"I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence."​

And where did I say that Pamela Geller deserved to die for drawing Muhammad?

Just hightlight those words for us. Because I'm pretty sure you're making that shit up.

I just quoted it.

Nope. You didn't. As I didn't say 'Pamela Geller deserves to die for drawing Muhammad' in anything you posted.

The only word you managed to quote accurately was 'Pamela'.

Try again. This time reading for comprehension.

No, you didn't say that exact sequence of words.

I didn't say any of those words save 'Pamela'.

You....you do realize that you're literally arguing your own hallucination, right?

 

[oldernwiser]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

No one is saying people who stomp on the flag should be killed. That's the difference you don't seem to understand. Once again, you're saying people who draw Muhammad deserved to be killed.

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

I agree with that 100%. She walked into that event knowing full well and with ample evidence to support a reasonable expectation that it would cause the irrational crazies to come out.

I fully support free speech, but she should be held culpable at least and maybe even legally liable for the results of her ignorance and intolerance. Sure, I have the right to walk through the streets of Oakland in blackface. Is there any doubt that someone wouldn't add a little blue and red to it? Maybe the real tragedy here is that a security guard caught a bullet that should have found Pamela - at least then she would have been held personally accountable for her insanity.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What security guard's life?

Grampa doesn't think they should be allowed to have so security so any Muslim savage who wants to can walk right in and kill them all.

No, what Grampa believes is you are terrible at reading other people's minds

Mind reading isn't required.

You're still stomping your feet cause I made you look stupid last week. Your poor,poor ego can't take another blow can it?

Blow me ya hyperpartisan troll

You made me look stupid? When?

When you got pissed off and decided to change my words around to suit your agenda just like you just did to skyler.....hack

 

[nat4900]

Muslims don't need Geller to kill Americans. Muslims hate everything not Muslim. Ask the 3000 that died on 9/11 why they died? It wasn't Geller, it wasn't Westbrough Baptist, it was Muslims hate of America and hate of all non-muslims.

Its moronic responses like the above that make anyone who debates the issue to SEEM llike they're defending terrorism......

Nonetheless, Muslims did not wake up one day and decided they hated Americans...that is a STUPID and inane "conclusion."

No mention of our troops in Saudi Arabia....No mention of our one-sided support of Israel...No mention of our overthrow of a legitimate government in Iran because we wanted their oil cheaper.....

It is the idiotic lack of perspective and knowledge of history that actually EMBOLDENS others to hate us.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

A right? Yes. But a college kid has the 'right' to stamp all over the US flag in front of a world war 2 vet on Memorial day.

Doesn't mean its even remotely reasonable. Pamela wanted the response she got. A security guard's life was too high a price to pay for it.

No one is saying people who stomp on the flag should be killed. That's the difference you don't seem to understand. Once again, you're saying people who draw Muhammad deserved to be killed.

I'm all too aware of the difference. The dead security guard's corpse is lying in it. And violence is exactly the kind of reaction Pamela was trying to provoke.

Its unreasonable and foolish to intentionally try and provoke folks to violence.

I agree with that 100%. She walked into that event knowing full well and with ample evidence to support a reasonable expectation that it would cause the irrational crazies to come out.

I fully support free speech, but she should be held culpable at least and maybe even legally liable for the results of her ignorance and intolerance. Sure, I have the right to walk through the streets of Oakland in blackface. Is there any doubt that someone wouldn't add a little blue and red to it? Maybe the real tragedy here is that a security guard caught a bullet that should have found Pamela - at least then she would have been held personally accountable for her insanity.

Your position is absurd. Personal responsibility stops with your own actions.

Only an idiot would blame me if I piss you off to the point that you sign off and go do something stupid. Same difference

 

[PredFan]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

No one's asking you to support it, or at least no one should be. But you SHOULD stand up and defend their right to say it. We have to defend all speech, especially now.

Now and always. If you don't stand for the speech you hate, you stand for nothing at all.

Standing for the speech and supporting the person behind it are two different things

Of course, but you can't resort to blaming the speaker like the left does.

 

[PredFan]

So it's OK to piss off nut-jobs if you KNOW they are going to retaliate by murdering innocent people?

Don't tell me that we need to support free speech at all costs, tell the victims families.

Bull shit. We don't let the terrorists dictate our actions no matter the cost.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

No one's asking you to support it, or at least no one should be. But you SHOULD stand up and defend their right to say it. We have to defend all speech, especially now.

Now and always. If you don't stand for the speech you hate, you stand for nothing at all.

Standing for the speech and supporting the person behind it are two different things

Of course, but you can't resort to blaming the speaker like the left does.

I don't. But I do consider her to be inconsiderate of others around her

 

[PredFan]

You can support free speech without supporting the morons that abuse it.

Pamela had every right to draw despicable cartoons of another religions prophet. Doesn't make it a cause I have to support.

No one's asking you to support it, or at least no one should be. But you SHOULD stand up and defend their right to say it. We have to defend all speech, especially now.

What does especially now mean? No one denied their right to be assholes so there is no free speech issue involved.

Especially now means that we have Muslims demanding that we give up our free speech.