BREAKING: Speaker Boehner to Retire from Congress

[bendog]

Since the uncivil war broke out, the former GOP has circled the wagons, and notwithstanding the few shots fired at HRC and The President, the vast majority of projectiles have been sent at each other.

The first round was fired by the first conservative to call his fellow Republicans RINO's; soon it was followed by a volley of words demeaning anyone who disagreed with their extreme ideas; With the election of President Obama their rhetoric degraded even more, as anyone who disagreed with them found themselves labeled as Commies, Socialists, Marxists, Statists, faggots and gun grabbers.

Today they have new targets to sight, Pope Francis and Donald Trump. The Party of "No!" must open their eyes, kick the callous conservatives, Neo Conservatives and NRA to the curb, and figure out who they want to follow, the party of Lincoln, TR and IKE or which member of the clown car who has ideas and is capable of putting the party back together.

Well believe it or not, but W ran on having no nation building for policy; a comprehensive energy policy including conservation and reduction in dependence on for oil; tax cuts that would spur growth and pay for themselves. I'd say the gop voters (like me) got sold a sack of crap.

Then, having been abandoned by the gop with W, they ran McCain, whose history was to the left of W. And then 8 years of Obama.

So, the conclusion that govt sold them out is pretty much warranted. But now they are continually used by a group of plutocrats who promise the a balanced budget with no new taxes. It's not surprising that a cartoonish boor who is not beholden to the plutocrats would appeal. I have no idea how this will play out over the next nine months.

 

[g5000]

So much for shutting the government down, wingers!

No way he's gonna let that be his legacy. If they end up doing it, they'll have to wait until December, at least.

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Show us the Obama budget veto.

Good luck with that.

You have to submit an actual budget for it to be vetoed. The Republicans have not ever submitted one.

 

[bripat9643]

John Boehner is one of the chief architects of the destruction of the GOP brand.

I don't know that I agree with that. He certainly gets some blame for the mess that the party currently is. But that's due to his allowing himself to get steam rolled by the loons. The real culprits are the loudmouthed Bachmanns, Cruzs, Palins, etc.

I agree. Boehner looked like he was doing triage most of his term as speaker. Trying to hold together a clearly wounded and hemorrhaging party.

What Boehnor as doing was selling out his party to the Democrats. He only cared what his big donors wanted, not what rank and file Republicans wanted. Ergo, he's history.

Did Rank and File republicans just figure that out this week? Or was Boehner rewarded for 'selling out to democrats' with 4 years as speaker?

Boehner stayed in power by threatening anyone who opposed him with withholding Party donations and revoking committee positions.

 

[rightwinger]

So much for shutting the government down, wingers!

No way he's gonna let that be his legacy. If they end up doing it, they'll have to wait until December, at least.

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Congress used to do something called compromise

Don't think we will ever see that again

 

[ScienceRocks]

Thank you Speaker Bohner for keeping the government running and doing a great job. Sorry you had to deal with loserterians that don't believe in America.

 

[g5000]

Boehner stayed in power by threatening anyone who opposed him with withholding Party donations and revoking committee positions.

That's what every Speaker does.

 

[ogibillm]

Boehner stayed in power by threatening anyone who opposed him with withholding Party donations and revoking committee positions.

That's what every Speaker does.

that's kinda the power the speaker has...

 

[Skylar]

John Boehner is one of the chief architects of the destruction of the GOP brand.

I don't know that I agree with that. He certainly gets some blame for the mess that the party currently is. But that's due to his allowing himself to get steam rolled by the loons. The real culprits are the loudmouthed Bachmanns, Cruzs, Palins, etc.

I agree. Boehner looked like he was doing triage most of his term as speaker. Trying to hold together a clearly wounded and hemorrhaging party.

What Boehnor as doing was selling out his party to the Democrats. He only cared what his big donors wanted, not what rank and file Republicans wanted. Ergo, he's history.

Did Rank and File republicans just figure that out this week? Or was Boehner rewarded for 'selling out to democrats' with 4 years as speaker?

Boehner stayed in power by threatening anyone who opposed him with withholding Party donations and revoking committee positions.

And how is that 'selling out to democrats'?

 

[mudwhistle]

Speculation is that now Boehner is free to bring up a clean cont' resolution w/o any reference to PP, and with Dem support it will pass. My guess is the Pope's admonition to work together struck a cord that Boehner's been struggling with. So he'll fund the govt through Dec. And then it'll be McCarthy's problem to either diffuse the PP issue or find a way to work around it. But, really, it's not PP. The TP members will just find something else to have a fit over.

Boner was already going to sell us out.
Now he's sending a clean bill that continues to pay for pp's felonies.

Very good you see the issue. I'm not sure Boehner would have brought a clean continuing resolution .... at least right away. He might have let the Tea Party members have their shut down, at least temporarily. When that happened in the past, public opinion forced a clean resolution, and the Tea Party members were left to grumble while the Sunday talk shows laughed at them.

But again, it's not really about PP. It's about a belief that govt is an enemy. It'll just be something else down the line.

If the GOP gives Obama anything that doesn't fund the murder of children or defunds parts of Obamacare, he vetoes it. Obama is who shut down the government, not the GOP.

Last shutdown was a farce anyway. They sent everyone in the DoD home, keeping everything open with a skeleton crew, and then big-ears put up "Barry"ers to all of the monuments and national parks.

Fucking prick.

Only 17% of government was closed......Defense and parks.

 

[The Rabbi]

You're a fucking moron
Republicans pass a budget, flexing power of majority

Bendog is correct...you are the fucking Moron you IDIOT. The link you pasted was for the SENATE budget plan passed last May. HOWEVER, all appropriation bills must start in the House, fool, and the House does not have a proposed budget. A CR is the probable outcome for the next rendition of the Tea Party dance around the Fire!

Your yarmulke is a tad crooked. OK, what will your dance be this time to deflect from admitting your errors?

omg! You are a fucking retard. Total moron. DIdnt bother reading the article, did you?

Congressional Republicans scored a major legislative victory on Tuesday as the Senate adopted the first bicameral GOP budget agreement in a decade.

The 51-48 vote capped weeks of work by Republican leaders in the House and Senate, who shepherded the blueprint through a messy debate over defense spending that at times threatened to split their conferences.

The blueprint passed the House last week, and will not require a signature from President Obama.

 

[bendog]

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Congress used to do something called compromise

Don't think we will ever see that again

We might with a real leader. Kasich on the gop, but I don't see him getting the nomination. Plugs on the dems side, esp if he promises to be a one termer.

 

[mudwhistle]

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Show us the Obama budget veto.

Good luck with that.

You have to submit an actual budget for it to be vetoed. The Republicans have not ever submitted one.

You're lying of course.......but what else is new.

 

[bripat9643]

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Congress used to do something called compromise

Don't think we will ever see that again

In the past, "Compromise" was a situation where Democrats made outrageous demands and then spineless Republicans caved and gave them most of what they demanded.

I hope you're right. I hope we never see that again.

 

[bripat9643]

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Congress used to do something called compromise

Don't think we will ever see that again

We might with a real leader. Kasich on the gop, but I don't see him getting the nomination. Plugs on the dems side, esp if he promises to be a one termer.

The liberal definition of a "real leader" when referring to a Republican is someone so spineless that he has no firm convictions and he can easily be bullied into doing whatever liberals want.

 

[The Rabbi]

The only one who will shut the government down is Obama. The Congress is under no obligation to present the President with a budget he likes. The Congress is only required to present the President with a budget. If the President chooses to veto said budget, so be it. He shuts down the government. Just because the President might wish for there to be money in the budget to support building some bridge somewhere, does not mean Congress is required to put money in the budget to fund the President's bridge to nowhere.

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Congress used to do something called compromise

Don't think we will ever see that again

"We've got the votes, fuck 'em"
Elections have consequences and I won

Yeah thanks to Dems poisoning the atmosphere there will never be compromise Hell, Obama cant compromise with his own party.

 

[ogibillm]

Speculation is that now Boehner is free to bring up a clean cont' resolution w/o any reference to PP, and with Dem support it will pass. My guess is the Pope's admonition to work together struck a cord that Boehner's been struggling with. So he'll fund the govt through Dec. And then it'll be McCarthy's problem to either diffuse the PP issue or find a way to work around it. But, really, it's not PP. The TP members will just find something else to have a fit over.

Boner was already going to sell us out.
Now he's sending a clean bill that continues to pay for pp's felonies.

Very good you see the issue. I'm not sure Boehner would have brought a clean continuing resolution .... at least right away. He might have let the Tea Party members have their shut down, at least temporarily. When that happened in the past, public opinion forced a clean resolution, and the Tea Party members were left to grumble while the Sunday talk shows laughed at them.

But again, it's not really about PP. It's about a belief that govt is an enemy. It'll just be something else down the line.

If it's not about PP, then why won't Obama sign the bill?

BTW, government is the enemy to anyone who values freedom.

it's obviously not about planned parenthood. if it was, the republicans could easily pass some laws that would curtail them. they could pass, with bipartisan support, a law requiring express, plain language consent from any women undergoing abortions for that fetal tissue to be sold or used in research. they could require that any organization receiving money for fetal tissue document and publish the amount of money raised from those transactions. and they could get their investigation into planned parenthood with bipartisan support if they would just agree to fund them for another year.
then, armed with the facts of an actual investigation, they could make their case without having a few edited videos as the sole source of information.

but that would require compromise, thoughtfulness, and patience. the gop doesn't have that right now. instead they have found what they believe to be a valid excuse to shut down the government.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't know that I agree with that. He certainly gets some blame for the mess that the party currently is. But that's due to his allowing himself to get steam rolled by the loons. The real culprits are the loudmouthed Bachmanns, Cruzs, Palins, etc.

I agree. Boehner looked like he was doing triage most of his term as speaker. Trying to hold together a clearly wounded and hemorrhaging party.

What Boehnor as doing was selling out his party to the Democrats. He only cared what his big donors wanted, not what rank and file Republicans wanted. Ergo, he's history.

Did Rank and File republicans just figure that out this week? Or was Boehner rewarded for 'selling out to democrats' with 4 years as speaker?

Boehner stayed in power by threatening anyone who opposed him with withholding Party donations and revoking committee positions.

And how is that 'selling out to democrats'?

That part isn't. That's how he stayed in power.

 

[g5000]

the gop has no budget.

Yeah....right.....sure.....uh-huh.....Dingy Harry isn't running the Senate anymore.

Muddy, we're talking about a 'CONTINUING RESOLUTION." I realize the knuckle draggers like the human stain and fake rabbi cannot stay focused.

A CR is what we've been funding the government with since big-ears took office. Big-ears submits a budget and everyone laughs their asses off and it loses 98 to nothing. The GOP submits a budget and Obama either vetoes it or Dingy Harry shelves it. So a CR is all we've got.

Show us the Obama budget veto.

Good luck with that.

You have to submit an actual budget for it to be vetoed. The Republicans have not ever submitted one.

You're lying of course.......but what else is new.

Nope.

Show us the GOP budget that was vetoed by Obama, liar. You've done gone and stepped in it now.

 

[mudwhistle]

Speculation is that now Boehner is free to bring up a clean cont' resolution w/o any reference to PP, and with Dem support it will pass. My guess is the Pope's admonition to work together struck a cord that Boehner's been struggling with. So he'll fund the govt through Dec. And then it'll be McCarthy's problem to either diffuse the PP issue or find a way to work around it. But, really, it's not PP. The TP members will just find something else to have a fit over.

Boner was already going to sell us out.
Now he's sending a clean bill that continues to pay for pp's felonies.

Very good you see the issue. I'm not sure Boehner would have brought a clean continuing resolution .... at least right away. He might have let the Tea Party members have their shut down, at least temporarily. When that happened in the past, public opinion forced a clean resolution, and the Tea Party members were left to grumble while the Sunday talk shows laughed at them.

But again, it's not really about PP. It's about a belief that govt is an enemy. It'll just be something else down the line.

If it's not about PP, then why won't Obama sign the bill?

BTW, government is the enemy to anyone who values freedom.

it's obviously not about planned parenthood. if it was, the republicans could easily pass some laws that would curtail them. they could pass, with bipartisan support, a law requiring express, plain language consent from any women undergoing abortions for that fetal tissue to be sold or used in research. they could require that any organization receiving money for fetal tissue document and publish the amount of money raised from those transactions. and they could get their investigation into planned parenthood with bipartisan support if they would just agree to fund them for another year.
then, armed with the facts of an actual investigation, they could make their case without having a few edited videos as the sole source of information.

Doesn't matter.

Any new laws have to be enforced by the DoJ.

Figure the odds.

 

[bripat9643]

Speculation is that now Boehner is free to bring up a clean cont' resolution w/o any reference to PP, and with Dem support it will pass. My guess is the Pope's admonition to work together struck a cord that Boehner's been struggling with. So he'll fund the govt through Dec. And then it'll be McCarthy's problem to either diffuse the PP issue or find a way to work around it. But, really, it's not PP. The TP members will just find something else to have a fit over.

Boner was already going to sell us out.
Now he's sending a clean bill that continues to pay for pp's felonies.

Very good you see the issue. I'm not sure Boehner would have brought a clean continuing resolution .... at least right away. He might have let the Tea Party members have their shut down, at least temporarily. When that happened in the past, public opinion forced a clean resolution, and the Tea Party members were left to grumble while the Sunday talk shows laughed at them.

But again, it's not really about PP. It's about a belief that govt is an enemy. It'll just be something else down the line.

If it's not about PP, then why won't Obama sign the bill?

BTW, government is the enemy to anyone who values freedom.

it's obviously not about planned parenthood. if it was, the republicans could easily pass some laws that would curtail them. they could pass, with bipartisan support, a law requiring express, plain language consent from any women undergoing abortions for that fetal tissue to be sold or used in research. they could require that any organization receiving money for fetal tissue document and publish the amount of money raised from those transactions. and they could get their investigation into planned parenthood with bipartisan support if they would just agree to fund them for another year.
then, armed with the facts of an actual investigation, they could make their case without having a few edited videos as the sole source of information.

but that would require compromise, thoughtfulness, and patience. the gop doesn't have that right now. instead they have found what they believe to be a valid excuse to shut down the government.

What makes you think the Democrats would support any of that or that PP would actually comply with the law under a Democrat president?